I have new embryos fruits like a rice seed on:
Malta Black
Adriatic JH
Tacoma Violet
Malta blk and Adriatic JF were winter protected while Tacoma V,was not.
Malta black was protected better,and came out from Winter with a foot high stems,the others grew from soil line.
All had 6 inches of mulch,or more, at root area.
All my figs are in ground.

Glad you are seeing figlets on your inground trees Herman. Its good to learn what varieties will produce after being killed to the ground. I used a thick layer of hay this winter, it got down to 2 F, the uncovered soil was frozen, but underneath the straw it was unfrozen. I might have used as much as a foot of mulch.

Mike in Hanover, VA

Hello Vasile, how did your in ground trees fair this past winter, I'm waiting to see some of your great listing on ebay this season.

Ryan:All figs that were not Winter protected died to soil line.
All are coming back,from underground roots.
Some come out early some come out later,depending on genes.
Some will make ripe fruits this year many will not.
Even some Winter protected fig trees died to soil line.
I only put out on this site,what,is ahead.

Hi Herman2,
Here, even BT is not able to ripe fruit when coming back from soil level.
For a comparison, do you have a BT ? That comes back from dirt ? How is she doing ?

Well I hope they grow back healthier then ever, the ones I got from you last year are doing great,  the nero 600m for one is growing like a weed putting on a few figs that I'm looking forward too.

I had brown turkey,but will not properly ripe here,because of lack of long hot dry Summer.

Herman, will your Tacoma Violet have time to ripen it's fruit, this year?

If so, how many fruit do you think it will ripen, before first frost.

If I remember right, Tacoma Violet was found by Gene Hosey, right?

Bob Harper

yes Tacoma V will ripe if I leave only three trunks,and it will make about 3 dozen ripe fruits, only this year just because it died to soil line.
But of course this Winter was ,colder than any other,in the last 30 years.
Next year it will be back in business with normal crop.
Once the tree start growing embryos now,it will ripe for sure till end of Summer.
Of course other work is involved,to produce ripe fruits,like pinching,removing extra growing buds,removing,late forming fruits.
All three figs mentioned above are early ripening,and willing to be manipulated ,to ripe fruits here ,in NJ.

Herman, in order to get the figs like Takoma Violet and Adriatic JH (which grew up from the soil line) to form fig embryos did you pinch them?  I have Kathleen's Black growing up two new trunks from the soil line that are now about 18 inches high.  There are no fig embryos evident but there are tiny branches forming a several nodes.  I have been reluctant to pinch them yet but maybe I should go ahead.  I'm sure the trunks will really branch out if I do.

Robert, Takoma Violet was discovered in Takoma Park, MD by Gene Hosey.

Hello Vasile
So happy to hear all is going well. My ingrounds also died back to ground but are pushing nice new growth. I am taking your advice this year and thinning out to just a few stalks and pinching. I can see the difference already on some, this pinching is new to me and I am now pinch crazy.
The MBVS, Malta Black and Adriatic JH cuttings I received from you are doing great. Very nice and strong young plants.
Thank you my friend
Coop

Of course I pinched them,they pause growt for 2 weeks form fruits and a new top bud grow after that.
Also grow buds appear down the trunk,which I remove too.
By the way:only the branches I pinched grew fruit buds now the rest did not.

Today noticed embryos fruits on,my in ground :
Battaglia,and
St. Anthony
Yes it is, about 2 weeks later than last year,but if the Fall is sunny and long,the named cultivars will ripe!

Herman my Malta Black in partial sun here in NYC has strong growth and maybe 20 fig embryos, thank you for the advice to plant it. I did not pinch it. I did pinch RdB which is next to Malta Black but I don't see any embryos yet. Maybe plant is too small or too young.

Malta black produce fruit Embryo early and need only 70 days till ripe.
Ronde de Bordeaux ,Improved Celeste,St Anthony,also ,will ripe in 70 days.
Yet Ronde de B,do not have Embryos here yet,possible because it started from about 2 inches from soil line.
To explain about Battaglia Green:Yes it has Embryos early,but it takes 90 days to ripe.
Other late ripening figs like Madeira Black,takes 100 days to ripe,in my climate.

Herman: Thanks for sharing good information.

Best,
Tam

This is the first i have heard of days to ripening for figs, that is useful information. Thanks for sharing your observations Herman, hope to hear more of that.

Mike in Hanover, VA

Thanks for the link Mike!

Mike in Hanover, VA

Vasile,
From your observations over past decade or so, would you be able to post a comprehensive table with ripening time (number of days from observing embrio to fully ripe) for your zone?
suggested form will be as below:

minimum days to ripen                             fig variety
70                                                                negrone, HC, etc
80                                                                  xxxx
90                                                                  yyyyy
100                                                                zzzzz
120                                                              aaaaaaaa

Just cover those you grow or you are familiar with.

Thanks

Damir

Black Madeira for me is anywhere from 100-110 days depending on weather,glad it's not just me.

Here is how long it takes to ripe:
70 days:Malta black, Improved Celeste,Ronde de Bordeaux,St Anthony.
75 days:Mt etna type figs ,Hardy Chicago etc.
80 days:Kathleen black,Atreano,Dalmatie,Tacoma Violet,Violette de Bordeaux,Nero 600m,etc
85 days:Adriatic JH,Longue D'Out,Sal Corleone,other Sicilian type figs.
90 days:Battaglia,Vasilika Syka,Verte,Col de dame, etc.
100 days or more:Madeira black,Ital 258,Preto,Verdal longue,etc

Note:Fig do not form Embryos at the same time,some form early(May 15) some form late,up till July 1.
The duration of growth from inception till ripe count,and the date of embryos forming is important in order to call a cultivar,early ,or late ripening.
This data refer to main crop fruits only and naturally grown in ground fig trees.
Growing in pot,the results will vary,usually,they ripe faster,if,pots are,placed in full sun ,on black top early,to,get them going,and brought indoors for the night,to avoid frost early in Spring.
Also keeping pots in greenhouse early in Spring will send them into growing much earlier,and so early ripe fruits can be had.
Also Full sun is the most important,in zone 6b,or colder and it will make the difference between getting ripe fruits or not.

Herman, do you find that the presence of brebas has an effect on when the embryos form?  Someone in another thread was suggesting that it might.  But in my experience I haven't seen that.  Do you?

Mike

<edit> In other words, what I'm asking is this:  Say you're looking at two trees of Hardy Chicago, and they're clones of each other (same genes, and kept in same culture side by side).  On one of them you knock off any brebas that form, and on the other tree you leave the brebas on.  Will the main crop embryos form at the same time on both trees?  Or will the embryos on the one that has brebas be delayed and form later?  (Like I said, I haven't seen that, but someone was suggesting something along those lines, so I'm interested to hear what your experience would suggest).