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All the work I put into these peaches this year, if you've seen my previous post, my spraying regime, for 5 years I lost every peach to bugs this year I got every peach to to fruit Beautifully, I ate a total of 3 peaches and they were amazing, I don't know how they got in, I have metal and wood bars holding the netting to ground?????? WTF! I am going to trap and murder these thing in the woods, I am going to beat them dead, curb stop their F@cking stupid heads, blow torch their fur off! I don't care, I haven't been this angry in years! I am literally seething! this is the 3rd tree that went ripe and those greedy F@CKS ate everything I have one tree left with 5 nectarines on it, I will. BE damned if they eat them! Rat traps are out have a hearts are out, they will die! JUST TO BE CLEAR EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW, YES I AM GOING TO KILL A FAMILY OF SQUIRRELS ALL OF THEM WILL DIE! FUUUUUUUUUUU@K!

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And nobody else seems to understand why I don't like tree rats.

Sorry about your loss. Might consider investing in a pellet gun as well.
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Are you positive it wasn't 2 legged squirrels? Tree rats suck, but that doesn't really follow the pattern of squirrels. Squirrels and raccoons are both pretty messy, you would have pits and partially eaten fruit all around the tree. And if so, and it was night time, I would consider a family of raccoons.

Sorry about your loss. I once wigged out on some street workers for helping themselves to my peach tree when it was small and had like a dozen peaches on it. 

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Are you positive it wasn't 2 legged squirrels? Tree rats suck, but that doesn't really follow the pattern of squirrels. Squirrels and raccoons are both pretty messy, you would have pits and partially eaten fruit all around the tree. And if so, and it was night time, I would consider a family of raccoons.

Sorry about your loss. I once wigged out on some street workers for helping themselves to my peach tree when it was small and had like a dozen peaches on it. 

Oh u mean when they eat the fruit to the pit on the tree and leave the pit! My wife called me this morning she said justin I literally just saw 3 squirrels running under net with peaches in mouth! And almost 20 % of branches are broke, it was Vermin trust me! They will die horrible deaths that's for sure!

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I know how you feel and I feel your pain.... My recommendation to you is that you not react to events after the fact because the only thing left to you is frustration and revenge. You MUST be proactive in pest control as the pests are doing what comes natural to them to survive and will continue to do so while they are around. I manage my tree rats, ground rats (chipmunks), ground hogs (yes they do climb trees; have shot them out of my apple trees), possums and other vermin 364 days a year (usually too busy on Christmas Day). I usually manage them using lead or carbon arrow poisoning.... I harvest dozens and dozen more of squirrels each year, as many chipmunks as I can manage and still they keep on coming. Over the last week and for the first time in my memory, RED Squirrels have been hitting my apple trees; those buggers are right in between gray squirrels and chipmunks and they are fast. The only saving grace with the Red's is that they like to sit in the tree and look down and scold you loudly for bothering their feeding....at least they do that once....

You regularly feed your plants; you must also be regular and proactive in managing your pests before ther drive to to the state you currently find yourself in.... BTW... I bet that peach fed squirrels are delicious slowly stewed with fresh ripened or even canned peaches...

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<< I usually manage them using lead or carbon arrow poisoning.... >>

This is a guy I can relate to.  A pellet gun is now my preferred approach for chipmunks, squirrels, and groundhogs.  I dispatched a ground hog two days ago. 

I would also strongly recommend traps.  I use a Have-a-Heart trap, but I have to admit that the compassion ends when the door slams shut.  After the rodent damage suffered last winter, I also now use snap traps for mice and voles.

I agree that you have to be vigilant and proactive.  But stay open to the possibility that there is more than one species involved.  Last year, after losing dozens of figs, I bought the big Have-a-Hart and set it up near the fig trees.  In the next week I caught a squirrel, two possums, and three raccoons.  This year I've already caught a squirrel and two raccoons -- and the fruit isn't even ripe yet.

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p.s.  Squirrels seem to feed mainly during the day.  Here they seem most active at dusk.  I don't think that they are nocturnal.  Possums and raccoons, on the other hand, own the night.
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I also now use snap traps for mice and voles.



I use those in combination with a 12 gauge for mole control. If I see one digging a new tunnel bird shot works wonders. A shovel quickly excavates the mole and into the trash it goes. I've bagged one mole with a trap and 4 with the shotgun this year.
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I'd suggest using sandwich bags (frozen ziplock bags are thicker) for the fruits.  These bags need to be punctured with small holes and bottom corner edges cut for rain water drainage.  I normally wrap each one with a bag when they are half way to ripen, around May/June for my pear fruits.  For peaches, you may need to do so earlier.  When sealed tight around the stem, the squirrels/chipmunks/birds can not get the fruits, especially the thicker zip lock bags.  Not sure about possum or raccoons because I have not spotted them here.  

You normally can tell what have eaten your fruits by the "crime" scenes left over by them.  Normally squirrels/chipmunks can not finish a pear or a peach in one sitting.  What I did was I just sprinkle Borox or borate acid on the leftover fruits on ground for them to come back to finish them off later.  This will teach them a lesson or two so they will not go after your fruits the next time around. Did I mention about deer?  They do tremendous damages to your young shoots and fruits.  I tried every methods to defeat them, and gave up.  The only way to defeat them is to put up a fence around the plant.  You can use wood posts and plastic garden fence to set it up for less.  They will not jump over it if the space in the middle is small so the fence does not need to be tall. 

Gardening is a hard/tough hobby for anyone who wants to harvest his labor of love.  I can not tell you how much fruits/veggies were lost to those elements (including insects/bacteria/viruses) over the years.  It is a never ending struggle for me, but so are these little creatures :-).  


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<< I use those in combination with a 12 gauge for mole control. >>

Sadly not legal here, unless the mole is attacking me in my house.

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<< I use those in combination with a 12 gauge for mole control. >>

Sadly not legal here, unless the mole is attacking me in my house.

Just scream it's coming right for me first, then claim self defense

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Justin I'm with you on eliminating the peach eaters. My tree WAS full of peaches. The other day I picked 5 juicy peaches. Today I got a basket and was planning to pick some to make a pie and give to a friend. When I got to the tree and looked up, I couldn't believe it. There were only 3 peaches left and those were half eaten.
So far this year the wildlife ate all my strawberries, blueberries and now the peaches. I need to do something before they eat the figs. Traps, bullets and baseball bats are the weapons of choice.

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This totally sucks!  Did these "squirrels" take off the top of the netting?  I've never had a squirrel do that.  If these pictures are showing the exact state of how you found the trees, then I don't think it was squirrels, but more likely humans eating your peaches.  
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If not humans, I'm going with raccoons.  They are strong and dextrous and clever and persistent.  
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Time to build metal cages I guess.
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Squirrels will easily tear through metal netting like those in a window. I know since we left bread to cool with an open window in the evening. In the morning the window screen was torn and there was a squirrel sitting on the bread chomping away. I don't know who was more scared, us or the darn rodent when we walked in the kitchen. 
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Completely understand. This was my first year getting peaches from our tree. They were almost perfect. I just wanted to leave them a couple more days. Then woke up to go pick them, and found only one peach left on a tree. All the other were complete gone!
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Dude,whatever you do,dont use a poison.I can totally see
one of your neighbors dogs or cats getting a hold of that dead squirrel,rat or whatever and getting sick .Or even
worse dieing.Poison does not discriminate. ////Very Bad Idea// lol
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omg, so sorry!  

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I feel your pain. Mice chewed a bunch of my varieties at the base over the winter. On the other hand, no more ground hogs or raccoons. If you know what I mean.

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If your yard is fenced in, get a larger rescue dog that enjoys being outdoors. It will keep an eye out on the squirrels/raccoons/possums. 
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That was raccoons not squirrels. Coons attack at night, squirrels during the day. Coons damage the tree more than squirrel.

You need a stronger structure or you need to trap them all out ahead of ripening. I have to trap about 6-10 each yr. If I get them all in spring the fruit is OK. If not they take everything.

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I used rabbit cage wire to make enclosures and it worked pretty well for short stuff, stronger than chicken wire and they couldnt press thru to reach and pull out. Rabbit cage was nice and strong and plastic coated wire to sew up and make doors.
I noticed decrease in population after neighbor cut tree but they also moved onto garbage as I saw one running with a piece of foil and chicken leg in its mouth and another buried a bagel in my strawberry planter so mold killed plants.)
But even in city limits its been an on going battle and I have to sprinkle hot sauce in strategic places.
Its been raining so I havent tried the grape koolaid trick yet. I'll see if it attracts or repels by Tuesday since the marauders will be out in the good weather this weekend.
I lose half my peaches to the tag team of bird and squirrel and most of my cherries but I have built a fortress around my potted figs. Thats where I draw the line.
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Agreed it was coons and or opposums. Squirrels were just cleaning up.
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Squirrels will easily tear through metal netting like those in a window. I know since we left bread to cool with an open window in the evening. In the morning the window screen was torn and there was a squirrel sitting on the bread chomping away. I don't know who was more scared, us or the darn rodent when we walked in the kitchen. 


I was talking about chain link fence structures.  I've seen some pretty advanced gardens with big fences over them--it's pretty foolproof for most sizes, although squirrels would probably get in.  But this was likely raccoons.  Raccoons tear the metal wire covering my under-house vents, but they can't tear chain link.

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i feel for you. i use traps, i use poisons n i learned how to shoot a handgun.
i'm always armed so i can shoot cute little bunnies that will eat a new tree to the ground. they like both twigs n leaves.
this latex doesn't seem to protect like people say it does.

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Raccoons are the major branch breakers in my area on fig,plum,and peach trees.Sometimes the opossums show up at night in my large fig trees,but I haven't noticed any broken branches after they leave.

The deer will chew the ends of the branches off of new growth in the Spring and Summer on my plum and peach trees and some of the branches get pulled down and broken in the process.

The squirrels started on my apple trees about 10 days ago and I've picked up about 50lbs of apples that they bite on a few times,drop, and grab another one.

It might be a good time to get a terrier or Dachshund to guard your trees or borrow one. :)


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I go after all of them year around, don't give them a chance to multiply during the year, period !!!!
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I'm guessing you don't have cats or a dog? My 2 cats go after everything from moles to squirrels to birds. I also have a boxer and he's caught the possum twice already. It just plays dead and he lets it go though. He also chased a family of raccoons out. Now one of them is back along with the possum. I feed them both at night. Sometimes the coon comes around at dusk as well. Scared me a couple times. I open the door and he's sitting right there. One night I had the door open and he came in the house. I just told him to get out, he doesn't belong in the house and he left. Also told him he can have all the cat food he wants but no figs. If he hits the figs the dog is coming out. So far he hasn't touched a fig and he walks right past them every night.

The squirrels stay up at the tops of the trees now. I have watched one of my cats hunt them so they definitely don't come around to the danger zone anymore.

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I sympathize with the animal problems

This may be redundant--I've written about my solution to foraging animals repeatedly, but I don't mind presenting it again. My solution to warm-blooded pests is a cheap solution of rotten egg, which I had noticed seems to be an important ingredient in all the expensive repellant mixtures.

Here's the recipe: mix 2 raw, scrambled eggs with 2-3 quarts of non-chlorinated water in a 1 gallon jug.  Let this stand at room temp for about 7 days, shaking it at least daily to prevent settling. 
Every day or two, or right after it rains, sprinkle small quantities around the plants that you want to protect. I often use an old paint brush to spatter it on the ground, but you can also dip the ends of thin strips of paper towel in it, and hang the strips on branches or pots that need protection. Just renew the strips every couple of days, bc they lose their potency. Human noses aren't as sensitive to this as you may think. Animals hate it.

A friend of mine was bemoaning the fact that deer were destroying his raspberries--he lives in a forested area, and actually had never even gotten fruit off of his plants. He used this mixture, and it solved the problem.

 The mixture stays 'bad' for 4-6 weeks.

I hope this works for you!!

A note on deer: I'm in suburbia, so deer are not a problem, but I've read that you can keep them away by stringing extra fine monofilament fishing line around the area to be protected, about a foot off the ground, and several feet from the protected plants. Deer get freaked out by anything that might bind their hooves, especially if they can't see it. You could also put it around the perimeter of areas to be protected. My spool of extra-fine cost a couple of dollars, and has almost a mile of line on it.

This is almost the same as cow grates used by farmers to keep cows from leaving a pasture through an open gate--it's an iron frame with parallel 1" wide openings on it. Cows won't cross it for fear of catching their hooves in it.

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If George Carlin raised peaches, I don't think he could have said it better. Me and the wife had a good laugh, and yes we hope you get those critters! (Be sure to post pics ;) )
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Another Tree Rat met his maker this morning. Fell victim to .177 lead poisoning while he sat on a tree limb eating the apple he just plucked from its branch.... Amazing how many tree rats and chipmunks come out of the woods to snack on my fruit trees; hard to keep up with them without just sitting under the trees all day long. Even the deer are making a real pain of themselves....
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I'd seen maybe one squirrel in 15 years and I live adjacent to some pretty wooded area. Come to find out the neighbor lady has a high-powered pellet gun with a scope and she has been taking them 'out for years!

The deer in the other hand destroyed all the fruit trees I planted dispite puting up a fence. Death to all deer. The moron living next to me actually has a deer feeder!! That ought to be illegal! !!

Anyway, sorry for your loss.

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7 groundhogs and 13 chipmunks this year, more than every other year combined.  No idea why they've been so bad this year.  



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Deer Feeders have increasingly come under fire due to the expansion of Chronic Wasting Disease in deer. In NY, it is illegal to purposely feed deer so most times, the deer are being feed incidentally to folks feeding birds, etc... Not legal to take deer out in closely populated backyards since a stray projectile of any kind can have dire consequences.... Paint balls on the other hand provide both audible, visual and tactile feedback to a deer and are less likely to cause damage or raise the ire of neighbors should a ball go astray in close quarters... have also found that deer actually avoid plants sprayed with those deer nuisance sprays although the spraying has to be pretty frequent to keep the scent fresh...
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At night you have to consider mice and rats too. Seem to my main problem with fruit and now tomatoes also. Check out the Kania Trap online. Several friends swear by it and I think I will have to resort to it also. I live in the city but have racoons, possums, squirrels, birds mice and rats all competing with me for fruit. I recently lost whole tree fulls of unripe peaches, plums, mulberries, and they are working on the figs and tomatoes now. Some friends have just given up. Oh, and I have two cats and a dog that don't do their jobbs.
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I have not seen raccoons near my yard till yesterday.  It was a young one dead on my side of property next to my neighbor's fig tree.  I do not know how it died, but I know their dog like to chase squirrels and the like.  It was a necessary "chore" to bury it, but I am quite happy to do that.

As for putting up a fence against deer, I have not had any issue since...I set up a fence around each tree I want to protect.  The fence is only 4-5' high.  Due to the small space inside of the fence, with a tree.  Deer will not jump over it into that small space. 

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