Grasa
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MichaelTucson
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Posted 1354080109
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Interesting technique Grasa, doing those grafts at the same time as rooting the root stock. How has your success with that technique been?
Pauca sed matura.
MichaelTucson
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Posted 1354080147
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Oh, and what are the tops and the root stock you're using?
Pauca sed matura.
Grasa
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Posted 1354080734
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The tops are special fig I received from in the mail! the bottom were from a tree I found on 97th, not too far from me, so I know it grows well here. the owner told me to help myself, so I cut all the branches that were falling on the other side of the fence, cut them and have them rooting in various sizes and stages of rooting. I used various methods, of joining the bottom and the top. I do not know how this will do, that is why I left 3 in their original sizes, if my grafts go wrong, I can count on the un-altered cuttings, although I stole a bud of a lower portion of the cutting and used as a graft , the removed 'hole' was brushed with hormone, so it should root in that place. I will update is something develops.
garden_whisperer
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Posted 1354086467
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Looking forward to seeing more. I graft fruit trees but never thought about doing a fig.
snaglpus
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Posted 1354161819
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Grasa, I like your style. I promised myself that I would start grafting next year. I got the tools, now I need to start planning on which ones to try. I got some large Brown Turkey trees and may end up using them. Grafting cuttings on cuttings is something I never thought of. I'm curious how your test will turn out. Good luck and post resuts.
strudeldog
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Posted 1354164230
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Interesting. I wish you success, but I will be a little surprised if the graft takes on a un-rooted cutting, seems to go against my general thoughts on grafts, but I guess a graft union taking might not be that different than callusing. That's makes this fun trying different approaches, be sure and report back. If successful will you then airlayer to get on it’s own roots?
Grasa
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Posted 1354174287
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I thought of the same, and to satisfy my curiosity, I opened one and to my surprise, it was pretty glued together already in just a few days, it was very sealed and I had to prop it up to take them apart. It would be fun to see if they all make, I will have 9 trees to share.
jenniferarino83
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Posted 1354176253
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I have doubts, seeing that most grafting techniques usually stay away from moisture. But I could be wrong. I will be surprised if it does work. Keep us posted.
Rewton
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Posted 1355629736
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Grasa, any updates on how these grafts are going? I may try this also if you have success.
Grasa
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Posted 1355629946
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Some are doing nothing, others are trying... to early to tell (one for sure is being a real fighter) will take some pics
Bass
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Posted 1355633609
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Grafting is more successful in spring and budding in summer.
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HarveyC
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Posted 1355634168
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With a controlled environment grafting can be done anytime of year. Even outdoors I graft February into October. The mostly likely graft to fail is the one that isn't attempted. :)
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Grasa
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Posted 1355634849
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Bass, you say Spring because that is when the plant is growing, right? But indoors, they are growing, so they do not know when Spring is, or do they?
Grasa
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Posted 1355635159
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Well Harvey, I am not sure this is not a fail... I am still figuring out what is the tip of a cutting, and since my root stock was a branch that was rooting under a black berry bush, I really could not tell what was tip or bottom. Upon called the attention, I reinspect my cuttings and found this one on 'upsidedown' root stock,oops, it had already glued itself to the root stock so I just cut it and layed it down on top of the soil... it is trying to grow - there is a tiny green to it. crossed fingers, as this will be a miracle if survives. It is nothing but the budding.
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HarveyC
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Posted 1355636316
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Grasa, it may fail but if you wouldn't have tried it was never going to grow. I've never done it myself, but grafting a scion upside down is sometimes done on purpose to dwarf a plant.
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MichaelTucson
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Posted 1355678938
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I am confused about one thing Grasa. Other than satisfying curiosity, what is your goal in trying to do the graft and the rooting of the root stock at the same time? I mean, you know you can do those steps serially... what goal do you have in mind to do them at the same time?
Pauca sed matura.
Grasa
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Posted 1355685757
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Mike, first of all I wanted to learn how to skillful do the cuts and learn the process as I plan to make my huge 22 y.o tree into many varieties, and I don't want to learn in the tree and mess it up.
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MichaelTucson
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Posted 1355702258
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Thanks Grasa. FWIW, I hope you didn't think I was picking on you or something. I just didn't understand why do that simultaneously, rather than serially. Thanks for sharing your ideas.
Pauca sed matura.
Grasa
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Posted 1355702626
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Michael, the lower cutting (root stock) was about one month older in the rooting process, some had roots already, others callous, after I joined them, I let them together in the rooting box (covered with newspaper with little moist... so their roots took a little longer to sprout, but they became stronger and waiting for the top to stick together, I hope that is what they were doing... I still have a couple not ready for the cup, and I send off a few to others, one determined to be a bad graft, it was taken apart and became 2! It is a lesson that has engaged a lot of very wise members to teach me what I need to learn! I am new at multiple figs and have about destroyed my 22 y.o. fig tree with bad pruning in the past years...so, I am revamping it to make up for my wrongs over the years. Please feel free to tell me your thoughts and opinions. I need them all. '
