Mine is over the time limit for a PayPal refund as well. I did email James a few days ago but have not yet heard back from him. My patience is almost at an end. I, like an unknown number of others, ordered from his website and at that time had no knowledge of the offer on here beyond seeing that people vouched for James' integrity. There was no advance warning that there would be HUGE delays. I believed the shipping dates were to be honored just like on numerous other sites I've ordered plants, cuttings and bulbs from without a problem. Those sites all notify people of delayed shipping dates and stick to them. If this is how poorly he treats his customers I can't see his business succeeding very long even if he ever does start delivering. I don't want to see any more pics of how 'his' fig trees are doing or how good his setup is. I want to see how 'my' fig trees are doing and know when I'll get them - for real, not just a made-up delivery month that comes and goes with nothing delivered. It would be so much easier to wait if he had just sent even 1 order out to someone.

Well I beleive it is time to knock James house down. I am an old man, that has a young Thai wife. She takes a lot of pride in her accomplishments. Worked hard to make the money to place 6 orders with James totalling over $3000.
Has a network of friends and business that were watching how her farm was doing.
This is a big loss of face for her.
James has not updated his website for over a month. Refuse to answer phone call or messages.
While a refund would be nice, don't think it will happen. If his PayPal account is revoked thar may well be a public service.

I am not a poor man, so what ever it takes. I hold 10000 share of PYPL stock so there are some shortcuts available to me, that regular customers do not

Will keep you posted.

This is why you always always always use a credit card to pay through PayPal. Even when the six months of PayPal protection is over, you can do a chargeback.

I wish you all best of luck on your refunds,
Just letting you guys know we ordered 140 varieties through http://www.figaholics.com/ and http://wagnerfarmsny.com/cny-figgery/, truthful honest people that communicate via phone and emailover. Of the 230 cuttings and we only lost one, 30 percent shade, 2sec mist every 2 1/2 minutes, top dressed with 18-6-8 NUTRICTE TTL T180 so when they root they shoot.
Stoked for 2017

Happy Easter day (2017) to you all.

After a nice (full house + balcony) church mass;
we had our four grandchildren (4 yrs & under) visit us.

We had a great lunch and much fun playing with the kids
outside on a very nice spring day (strong sun & all) here in NJ.

Heck, the most object (toy) the kids had fun with was my simple
hand water sprayer bottle that I use for plants...

Also a major attraction/quarrel object, was my own back-then baby daughter's (an adult now)
open doll-house,  full of miniature people (doing most anything), furniture, etc., ..

Life goes on.

Well Smathews:

BS?? I think not!

here are the orders that were placed:

5606-1072-4942-3039 Mar. 19, 2016  $143.00

0436-0341-6863-6631 Mar a9, 2016 $641.00

18883573X9817125Y Apr 3 2016 $758.00

#9FH22599L/M688*10*n Apr 12, 2016 $665.00

5D88493043252961U May 8^th 2016 $693.00

27G70270NS858580S Jun. 26 2016 $275.00

0795-6490-3113-5968 Mar 24, 2016 $170.00

ONV29760XV978304R Apr 25. 2016 $826.00

I almost don't have a dog in this fight, but I used my PP account to place these orders. All of this was to come here and then on to Thailand. It was her money her dream for her 45 rai farm in Thailand.

For those of you that might have sympathy for James, I remind you THIS IS AN EMERGENCY OF HIS OWN MAKING!!

I started a internet search when my wife asked me to help and find out why she has never received any figs?? That is how I ended up here. Now that I understand the situation, I will give Jame one last chance for a full refund, after that I will use my position as a stockholder in PP to go downward from upper management and see that James is blocked for the rest of his life from using PP to defraud people.

If James chooses to refund the $4170 to my wife, then peace be upon him, if not he will find some people are vigilante in nature and will not stop... I hope he reads and heads this. (He should also read "The Badger doesn't give a shit'}.

My sole desire at this time of my life is to see my wife happy. (We have been married for 20+ years).

Bob,

Go here,

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/profile/1875694

Send a private message with "REFUND" in the header.
Seems a strange way to do business,but that's how you
get refunded.

Good luck with the wife's enterprise,I know figs are the
rage over there now.

That could take a while since he hasn't visited the site for almost a month.

He hadn't visited the site for a similar amount of time when I sent my request early last month.
None the less,he refunded me within 24 hours.

Thank you Figowitz for the info. I submitted my complaint to BBB.

It's about time to make a formal complaint. I have made mine. If you want your money back then you must make a formal complaint, let it be $10 or $5000. Do it now!.
https://ptsheriff.com/contact-us/

What is really sad is the opposing side of this "war" really is a duplicitous group of know nothing newbies who basically fake friendships to manipulate people and get their money. 

Being a part of that group I think you know exactly what that means, tool.

I really never planned to post on this thread topic again. But I wanted to state that I followed Jame's instructions when I recently requested a refund, and my money was returned to my PayPal account by the next day.

Like adipose above; I simply did not need the varieties any longer, having already gotten them from other sources in the months that I waited for the order from James. I still feel no animosity toward James. Just didn't need duplicate trees.

I would also say that if I was James, I wouldn't come here to read through this discussion thread either. Why would he want to read through all the bashing? It was originally to post his updates. Which he does post every once in a while (too infrequently, I know). But I would just post my updates, and skip reading all the nastiness when I did post (if I was him). A last thought, it does seem like the uglier this tread became the less frequently he posted updates......

This thread tought me one important thing and I thought I had seen and heard it all.

People are un-grateful and un-appreciative when money is involved.  As soon as they pay something towards the deal they are getting, they start thinking like a customer/consumer, no matter who they deal with. They start to claim ownership to something they have no right to.
But when you give them something free, ohhh LOL watch them glorify you and advertise you as "the best person they have met", tell people "what a nice guy", they make you "smart", they make you "hero", they recommend you in forum with pride and they want to make sure that every one knows and reads that he knows you in person.

Having said that, I say, ehhh such is life.

I would never commit to such project just to appear (to some) as a good person. You want Fig plant? PAY MY PRICE!
Forget favors to a mass such this. Not worth it son.

Shathew,

This is really what she had planned to do, is grown her own in Thailand, and sell cuttings.

I have started my process in getting a refund. James has until May 1st to do a refund. Hopefully he will not elli chai chai.

We have owned this farm for 10 years, but doing organic vegetables. Just added 200 banana trees a month ago. Dug a 1 rai pond (expensive $10,000) as we irrigate from a spring fed canal that sometimes the sugar cane growers block and take all the water.

As I said before, this business belongs to my wife, and is a good lesson about trusting people.

Frank.... I don't completely agree or disagree with your comments but it likely should not be represented that James made the offers that he did out of the goodness of his heart or just to appear to be a good person in someone's eyes. THAT is frankly bending reality to your own will... James undertook a task of monumental proportions and with considerable risk involved in a complete and successful completion. James made a fantastic offer for cuttings and plants at an incredible price point and all he asked was prepayment for future delivery. His plan had to be to use the advanced funds for the cuttings, plants and postage for delivery of same to buy the necessary materials and build out the infrastructure to grow the plant material in order to complete the implied contract. Where the difficulties arose is a question that James can only answer.... I agree with you that that committing to such an adventure is not for everyone... not for you and certainly not for me. I am like you in that if I am going to provide plant material that costs money to produce then I would want fair compensation for same.... James clearly was trying to upgrade his nursery capabilities and sought the advance payment with a future delivery date at a great price as an inducement to increase participation. You shouldn't paint him as a saint going out of his way to do folks a favor; he offered a deal with benefits to himself and to the buyers.... I don't blame him for doing so, I was one of the folks looking to benefit from the offer; I still wish him well and hope that everything works out well for everyone. At the end of the day, however, my biggest disagreement with you is that as far as I am concerned when both he and the buyers agreed to go forward with the offer, there was an implied contract. This isn't about people being "ungrateful and unappreciative when money is involved", this is about a business proposition that has met with difficulties in meeting original delivery projections... the folks who were on the buying side have every right to be upset with the lack of communication and the sliding delivery dates.... James was running a business and as a business man, he did have certain responsibilities just as you and i would if we were running our own businesses..... 

Hey Frank, Very good Post! Agree with everything you said! : )

Claiming ownership is referred to the Project. Ofcaurse everyone is entitled to what they ordered and payed for. No question about that.

I live in Los Angeles and I know exactly what it takes to grow a fig plant, from cutting to a fruit producing tree and then comes the time when you CAN actually harvest cuttings from it.
Left everything to nature and just watering and feeding fertilizers from time to time is what it takes for figs to grow here. and I am talking about fig paradise here, where everything grows and fruit the way they're supposed to.

I don't see how people expect to see such a fast turnover where they can get what they want in few months (which is what was promised, I do understand)

But, see, this is what made the confusion: Not knowing enough about figs and their growth habits. Yes, some varieties will grow very fast but others will need the extra time they need. Arguing makes no sense in this subject. I have many varieties that are just stuck at cup stage or court stage and at 1ft height. and all of a sudden they decide to throw a huge limp out of nowhere and VOILA! A start of a new huge tree.
I just don't see how one can expect same performance from every variety, just not gon happen.

This is the reality of the nature with figs. Now, one can paint it as colorful as they please, dream the way you want to see it but when it comes to actually doing it, nature has it's own plan and you cant fight it.

Relax, wait, let them grow, and you will receive what you wished for, for $7 only.
 
I wouldn't sell you a reject in one gallon for $17, nevertheless $7. Seriously.