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$7 fig trees for spring/summer delivery, around 150+ varieties

7 days and counting, so far, no refund.

James first post in this thread on 12/23/2015:

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Originally Posted by GreenFin
Why don't I grow them out first and then sell them?  Because if I did, I wouldn't sell them for $7, I'd sell them for a price closer to their market value (i.e. for much more $$).  This is a special offer to sell you trees for little more than it costs me to produce them, but only if you pre-pay to cover those expenses.  Doing things this way allows me to know how many of each variety I need to grow, and it gives me the money in advance to cover the costs of growing them. 

So what's in it for me?  A large part of the cost of growing the fig trees will be heating my 4 greenhouses, where I also grow lots of fish and bananas.  Heating is really expensive, so I usually only heat half my space, and I only heat it a minimal amount.  But I would crank up the heat for your fig trees, and that would have the side benefits of making my fish and bananas happier and helping them to grow faster.   So in a nutshell, in exchange for hooking you up with cheap trees, you’d help to pay my heating bill and allow me to grow bigger fish and bananas.  Everybody wins :)

So the offer is out there:  If you're willing to wait until this upcoming spring/summer to receive your trees, then I will grow you whatever you want for $7 per tree. 

Orders will be filled on a first-come first-served basis.  Getting your order in early puts you at the front of the line and maximizes the odds that you'll receive your trees early in the season



I think James was very clear. Pay me first, then in 5 to 7 months your trees will be ready and shipped.



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Originally Posted by FigWhisperer
As soon as they pay something towards the deal they are getting, they start thinking like a customer/consumer, no matter who they deal with. They start to claim ownership to something they have no right to.


I don't agree with you either. If I pay for something, of course I want to claim ownership on that particular item. In this particular case, after the deadline that James posted every customer that paid for their fig trees had the right to ask and claim about those trees.

I hope all of this ends well...

Favors, What Favors?

There is a contract for the delivery of an item, at a certain date, for an amount of money, the contract is in default.  There are not or has there ever been, any "Favors" sold or paid for in this deal.

Reality, really!  the reality is that there is, and has been a breach of contract, that is reality.

Favors, laughable, not in the contract language of this deal, contract language, laughable!

This is like Charlie Brown waiting for the Great Pumpkin.

"To defend, one must first have a defensible position"

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Originally Posted by FigWhisperer
I don't see how people expect to see such a fast turnover where they can get what they want in few months (which is what was promised, I do understand)

I wouldn't sell you a reject in one gallon for $17, nevertheless $7. Seriously.


I think people expected that fast turnover, because James made us believe that he had all those mature trees ready to take cuttings and start to root them. In reality, he had one or two young trees for most species. For some varieties he had mature trees, where he could took a lot of wood. But he also accepted too many orders from varieties like BM and other non comon varieties when he hadn't have the trees to provide enough wood for the cuttings. Even worst, without filling the 2015-2016 order, he started the 2017 sale and the cuttings sale. How you can sell cuttings when you don't have enough wood to finish your projects?

If he had told us the truth from the beginning, that this will be a very long project, then a lot of this discusions will not be happening. I think he could have mannaged to delivered those trees on time, but giving a limit on the non comom varieties. The sales would have been a lot less, but his name and reputation will still be good.

Frank, I agree with you in something, I would never sell those trees for $7, not even for $20.

I think most of you lot are retired or unemployed folks. Stop writing essays and praising each other. Do something!. Let me explain why I'm so pissed off.
1)Search 'buy fig cuttings' on google.
James website will turn up.
2)Add your choice of varieties , in this case I added 100 Genovese Nero LOL.
And this guy is still willing to take your money after all this BS happening here.
I know at least 20 Malaysian and Thai people who have invested lots of money in this BS.
My question!. Does any of you know James !,as in has anyone actually met this guy??..
why does he deserve any support?
If any of you are living around James's area why don't you go and pay him a visit and post some updates here.

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Originally Posted by FigPolice
I think most of you lot are retired or unemployed folks. Stop writing essays and praising each other. Do something!. Let me explain why I'm so pissed off. 1)Search 'buy fig cuttings' on google. James website will turn up. 2)Add your choice of varieties , in this case I added 100 Genovese Nero LOL. And this guy is still willing to take your money after all this BS happening here. I know at least 20 Malaysian and Thai people who have invested lots of money in this BS. My question!. Does any of you know James !,as in has anyone actually met this guy??.. why does he deserve any support? If any of you are living around James's area why don't you go and pay him a visit and post some updates here.


You are the "Police", why don't you Investigate this?

I also did not plan on getting involved in this thread... but alas I have something I'd like to say. 

I am concerned about the vindictive nature of some of your attitudes. Seemingly you are seeking revenge on a guy that was fairly upfront about his start-up. It is a concern to me, because I am invested (albeit not heavily), I do expect to get my order fulfilled, and I do expect to be happy in the end. 

The problem I see, is all of you that are looking to sink his business because things aren't panning out how YOU planned them. But please, if you want a refund just follow his instructions and leave. Hell, maybe that'll mean he actually catches up a little bit. But I personally do not appreciate anyone trying to SINK a business that I expect to succeed, and subsequently I will get what I originally was promised... fig trees at a cheap price (only catch is you have to wait for them to be grown).

So again, voice your frustration, ask for a refund, and leave. If you pursue in wrecking a startup because its not going fast enough, then you are ruining other investors' return also... which sucks for those of us not in a hurry.

Thanks. 

PS. I have no connection to GreenFin other than my modest orders of fig trees

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Originally Posted by Frankallen


You are the "Police", why don't you Investigate this?

Aha .. here comes the Bully Boy.
I would've, sadly I don't live around him. Why don't you?? You are his biggest supporter after all. One of your post says "you prefer trees in the dormant season" and when James fecked up you changed your mind and rather prefer them in spring!. Well did those little trees turned up to your door yet? Nearly summer now.

Don't expect anything but sunshine pumping for James from grumpy cat (Frank Allen). Every post of his is cheerleading or exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@figPolice

if you have balls...you will post in your original handle...You already have a thread about this thread...so go post there.

@BobKelly1

It is good to be rich...you invest money without research...I know the price was too good to pass away...I know the wife did not consult you...if you are speaking the truth...Hope you get your money...I am rooting for you...If you are speaking the truth...

it is an eye opener , now we know why the Thai man was bad mouthing James on this thread...he is losing a lot of money and potential costumers...

An observation...the people who are claiming the James did not refund them their money are just recent members...so they are really strangers...that we do not know if they are speaking the truth or not...

Silverado ---  Are you actually blaming the VICTIMS for this debacle?  Who started this? Who made the promises to deliver? who has failed to live up to his/her word?  THE PERPETRATOR!!, THAT IS WHO!!! JAMES IS THE ONLY ONE NOT KEEPING UP HIS END OF THE DEAL!!!  BLAME JAMES! NOT THE VICTIMS!!!!

To all my friends here, I apologize for my outburst but this is too much, blaming the victims, this defies the imagination!

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Originally Posted by bamafig
Don't expect anything but sunshine pumping for James from grumpy cat (Frank Allen). Every post of his is cheerleading or exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hey  (Member with no real name) ...How many Fig Trees did you buy? Oh that's right, you have no money to even buy some Fig Cuttings, you would like Vdb and Rdb ( I have a ton of them!) hahaha

dkirt, what part of my post is "blaming" anyone? I, in fact, said "voice your frustration, get a refund, and leave." Instead of being vindictive, what a concept right?

Hey Mark, you are right! There are a lot of people here that will not use their real name here. If they can talk about James like he is a common criminal, we also can do the same and support him!

More exclamation points!!!!! Must be an Auburn fan!!!!!!! Grumpy Cat has kindly offered to send VDB and RDB trees to anyone waiting on James. Good job, man...Oops, almost forgot...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Lebmark
@figPolice

if you have balls...you will post in your original handle...You already have a thread about this thread...so go post there.

@BobKelly1

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I can post as l like. You and Grumpy cat might've an extra pair of balls to have the audacity to support this guys fraud scheme. This is a gardening forum not a dating site. What's the catch?..Did you receive your trees already ?..And I'm most certainly not some hillbilly Thai farmer!

@FigPolice

 you can post BUT for your post to have any weight...USE your original Handle...and not hide behind a anonymous one

what the Hell Thai Fig did to you...to call him Names...Please send him my regards.

No I know about James progress as much as everyone...I did not call you for advice...if you are antsy about your ask for a refund...I do not like people nagging.

And it disintegrates again. Sad. :-(

Don't poke the trolls please.

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Originally Posted by Lebmark
@FigPolice

 you can post BUT for your post to have any weight...USE your original Handle...and not hide behind a anonymous one<


FYI this is my original handle, you keep repeating that statement!. You don't like people nagging then go away, who asked you to come and lecture me. Who the hell are you? And who the hell is Thai Fig for God sakes. Do you deserve more respect just because you been around here for a while? Or because you grow some hard to get varieties?.. Also who the hell are you to tell me to ask for a Refund? Maybe I rather had my money in my bank for the past 12 months!.. It's almost feels like being bullied . If anyone question James then his cheerleaders come up with solutions. I don't care about my money no more and for your info I have taken things legally. People wise up before James declare bankruptcy.

Silverado-----your words

"The problem I see, is all of you that are looking to sink his business because things aren't panning out how YOU planned them."

@FigPolice

 you had 6 posts, and all in this thread, telling us to file a complain about James...so you just started in this forum and you started giving advice...and the more you write , the less intelligent you sound...

so if you are HUNGRY for attention go do YouTube video...better for you to hit the road JACK...because we do not need your advice...
I hope you get your money...we do not like people to lose their money...always think Positive.
by the way...Staten Island is Located in the U.S.A

Did he offer a way to get refunds? So when people look to sink a business that offers solutions, isn't that vindictive? Not blaming "victims", condemning people looking to 'get even' for not getting what they want when they want it. Taking a start-up to BBB screws everyone that is patiently waiting. I don't want my money back, and when people are looking to make sure he doesn't succeed, that sucks for people who are hoping he does succeed.

Furthermore, any of you claiming that other nurseries always fulfill their orders in a timely manner, y'all obviously haven't ordered enough from them. Even Dave Wilson's online vendors 'pre-sold' certain varieties of trees that they were not able to fulfill due to crop failure. It happens. I'm happy patiently waiting for trees. If you're not, I suggest you get a refund and move on.

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Originally Posted by Lebmark


I repeat it's a gardening forum!.. I can comment whatever and wherever I like. You and grumpy cat must be really intelligent then, I mean that's what bullies usually think of themselves . And yes I ended up here worried about what to do about all this and I have no interest or reason to participate in other threads. I don't have any problem with you or anybody else in this forum and you are the one attacking me with sarcastic comments which I don't really understand!. Thai fig and now Staten Island!! Wtf man?? You've been defending this guy since God knows when on basics of what exactly?? Because he is a good person? Or is it because he works hard?.. who cares! Stop winding yourself up for internet friends and go and eat some Easter left overs.

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Originally Posted by Silveradocanman
Even Dave Wilson's online vendors 'pre-sold' certain varieties of trees that they were not able to fulfill due to crop failure. It happens.

Comparing David Wilsons nursery to this guys $7 deal is like comparing USA to Uganda. I really hope you get your trees but this has been a long wait and someone needs to go up there and tell us what's going on!.

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