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$7 fig trees for spring/summer delivery, around 150+ varieties

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Originally Posted by SCfigFanatic
For once I agree with you Alan.
I asked ourfigs owner to remove me from the forum, so
he locked me out of my own control panel,, emails,, pm's
everything.
It to me is just a wannabe f4f

Doug


so what was the actual problem on the "Other Forum"...

you seem to be the "popcorn" type .....so do tell. mmm
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Originally Posted by alanmercieca
There you go mocking the competition's forum!


What competition? There's no money at stake, except those tossing money at this scheme.
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There you go mocking the competition's forum!


Calling people "crazy" is a favorite way to try and delegitamize opposition....a propaganda tool you see all the time in the media.
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you know enough.
This thread is not the place

Doug


Fair enough...but why keep stirring the pot if you have no outstanding order?

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So a couple of weeks from now close to 100% of the 'non-troublesome' varieties should be growing in their shipping containers, and they would be ready to ship about 6-8 weeks after that.  The troublesome ones might take two more prune/root/grow cycles before I'd have enough for 100% to be in their final containers, which would mean they wouldn't be ready until sometime in January.


That quote was from september 9/6/16. The Non-troublesome varieties should have been ready to ship in November. What happened here??? No explanation about that.
In that same update, James said that the troublesome varieties "wouldn't be ready until sometime in January."

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Originally Posted by GreenFin

; So when something like that would happen, I would prune the dormant section and immediately root and grow those cuttings in order to continue growing and to maximize wood and plant production for shipping time in February/March.


Today, we have this new update from James that the fig trees will be ready to ship in February/March.
My question to James, is February/March the real date for shipping the fig trees? Or we can expect another delay close to that date?

This is the fourth date set for shipping this fig trees.
1. Original date, July 1
2. First week of August
3. November for Non troublesome varieties and January for troublesome varieties
4. February/March 2017

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Originally Posted by Babylon


What competition? There's no money at stake, except those tossing money at this scheme.


LIAR.
PayPal buttons (on OF), possible future ad revenue, raffles (on OF), and nusery sales that is tied to this forum, and Willis C. Selling cuttings = Money.

Jelosy, anger, and Honor are just along for the ride.
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This is turning into a nightmare, guys just ask for refund. I don't think Babylon is wills as he got better things to worry about.

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Babylon is an Arseling...No idea other than that.

Those who sought a refund got it. The rest will be patient and get their fig trees.

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I am happy to wait for my order. If it doesn't come then I will worry about it. Why worry now? That's just dumb.
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So this is how old farts spend their time?!?!Lol
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I haven't seen this much pissing and moaning since the presidential debates.
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I ordered four trees in December of 2015.  Please can somebody just tell me when I might be able to expect delivery?  I couldn't seem to find it with all the bs and the man hasn't answered my email inquiry. I already have what I ordered but would like them anyway for other purposes.   
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Originally Posted by alanmercieca
I just checked, the last time that James mentioned a shipping time for the 2015 orders was October 8th 2016, he said then early Spring, yet I am looking at this like waiting for a music album to be released, the release date keeps getting delayed because if unexpected problems. If none of us started to get notices by at least mid June then I'd be surprised.


Thanks for the straight reply Alan. 
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20% sounds low.
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Originally Posted by alanmercieca
I just checked, the last time that James mentioned a shipping time for the 2015 orders was October 8th 2016, he said then early Spring, yet I am looking at this like waiting for a music album to be released, the release date keeps getting delayed because if unexpected problems. If none of us started to get notices by at least mid June then I'd be surprised.


I'm sorry, but that's not true. James is very clear in this quote of September 6 2016, for the reference, this is the post #469 and here's the quote:

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Originally Posted by GreenFin
So a couple of weeks from now close to 100% of the 'non-troublesome' varieties should be growing in their shipping containers, and they would be ready to ship about 6-8 weeks after that.  The troublesome ones might take two more prune/root/grow cycles before I'd have enough for 100% to be in their final containers, which would mean they wouldn't be ready until sometime in January


So, he's clearly gave the date of November as a date of shipping for the Non-troublesome varieties and January for the troublesome varieties.
Today, he just changed the shipping date again to February/March. So I'm just giving the facts, no drama here, just facts and I'm quoting James words.
All I want to know if James will not change the shipping date again, because as I said before this is the fourth shipping date for this project. I want James to be clear with us, that's all.

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Is the link for $7 fig trees broken? I was trying to get check on the progress but all I see are random posts with people fighting about everything from other forums to who is allowed to post to favors to politics and videos of martians?!? I really did like the Martian video.

I think we've all lost faith in James' ability to estimate a ship date. I don't think everyone has completely lost faith that he will deliver at some point whether it be next year or maybe the year after and hopefully with the true varieties. Hopefully, it isn't a Ponzi scheme and he can get everything in order. Regular updates would be nice but I think it's just a matter of waiting and seeing what happens at this point or requesting your refund and pursuing other options if you want to grow your ordered varieties next season. February shipping seems unlikely and a bad idea at least in my area with temps in the negative teens and twenties.

I'm rooting for James to succeed even if delayed and I'll keep my order since I'm not in any hurry.

#TRUMP2016

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You helped to prove my point, what you quoted happened before what I mentioned not after.


You're wrong again. In September James told us that November and January were the shipping dates and in October 8, the one that you are referring to James told us this:

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Originally Posted by GreenFin
*UPDATE* As of right now it looks like I'll be able to finish the trees for about 1/3 of the 2016 orders by sometime in November and will have the rest ready by early spring. .


So, as you can see nothing changed here. The 1/3 of the orders were the Non-troublesome varieties.

What happened here? Why James didn't ship the 1/3 or the orders in November?

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Originally Posted by alanmercieca
Monday James mentioned that the 2016 ordering that is supposed to be for 2017 should be shipped February/March. He did not even mention the 2015 ordering that was supposed to be for 2016 Monday. If you actually read his post yourself rather than just going on gossip you'd know that.


Here's James response to ThaiFigs about the young tender plants put into the ground in October in obvious reference to the 2015 Fig Order that was originally supposed to be delivered on Summer 2016.

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Originally Posted by GreenFin

I planted my orchard long before October, and the only trees I put in-ground around that time frame were planted indoors in heated greenhouses. 

None of the potted or in-ground trees in any of my greenhouses are dead, they're all fine.  The only issue I've had is that small pockets of them went dormant at all sorts of various different times.  That creates a problem because I need all cuttings ready at the same time for shipping purposes.  So when something like that would happen, I would prune the dormant section and immediately root and grow those cuttings in order to continue growing and to maximize wood and plant production for shipping time in February/March. 


As you can see Alan, I did read the post and I'm not going into gossip like you are saying. In fact, I'm reading every single post in this thread. Unlike you, I'm using quotes to support my arguments and just to be clear I don't want a discussion with you or with anyone. When I posted my questions, they were specific to James, not to anyone else. I want to hear from James who is the owner and the founder of this project.



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Alan Mercieca you should be ashamed about attacking Wills in this thread. It is most ungentlemanly of you. Wills was once here, now he's gone. He does not have a voice to defend himself. Whatever your beef is with him, take it somewhere else. It sounds like sour grapes. You are the last person I would expect to smear a defenseless individual.
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I'm not sure stating a position over and over again is very productive? It is what it is, and we are all adults, quite simple.
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ThaiFig,
in my opinion you are either one or two...

you are either a Fig Merchant in your country...and the $7 fig if it comes through is not good for your business and that called CONFLICT OF INTEREST, regarding you giving us your opinion..... your handle in both this forum and Rafed is thaiFig...that is a marketing name...

or you are fighting for a U.S. Fig merchant FOR some goodies or favors...and that is not nice...what do you teach exactly...

rafaelissimmo, I do think willy owns a forum to defend himself, I think he already did...he does not need a nice lawyer (oxymoron) to defend him...and he is not the nicest to defend...never believe in somebody who licks his spit...

look people I invested here in 2016 figs...and in 2017 figs, and I have no worry that he is going to come through ...the only one who doesn't want him to come through are Fig sellers and they know that with time he will deliver...any one ordered $7 Black Maderia or expansive fig plant should be patient you are trading your time for the money you saved...if you want your cake and eat it...then GROW UP...
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ThaiFig,

 they will survive...just think positive...tropics man...
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Originally Posted by ThaiFig
For the more expensive varieties , I've bought cuttings or air layers and learned to propagate them myself, then sold those new cuttings and airlayers to recoup my investment. So really they've cost me nothing but my time and a bit of fertilizer. I've done this while you've been patiently waiting on James and looking at his pretty pictures.


Well said Thai Fig. The real joy and fun about Figs is growing them yourself from cuttings. I get about 90+% success rooting and almost 100% with grafting. And this didn't happen overnight , took me good few years. Never give up.

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Hi, I'm new here but not new to big business.  Here's my take on this promising enterprise:

  1. The benefit:  You are getting rare and valuable trees at a very low cost.  Much lower than normally attainable.
  2. The setup:  James has plausibly explained how he can achieve these below average costs and how it is a win/win for everyone. 
  3. Initial credibility:  James has already established himself as a reliable source with his cutting sales.
  4. Initial investor pay off:  I believe that everyone had received their $2 cuttings in excellent condition and I haven't heard of any complaints or mislabeled varieties.  Perhaps delivering a couple of trees would truly help with this element.
  5. Communicated Successes:  I could see where a little more could be done here but he has been supplying monthly updates for the last few months so I applaud the improved communication.

Overall, I think this plan has a wonderful chance to succeed.  As long as orders keep trickling in to keep the heat and lights on, there shouldn't be any problems.

Best Wishes,
Chuck
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And I have a bridge to sell you...
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