I asked for a refund last night. I'll keep you guys updated if he follows through with it.

You didn't hurt my feeling, I just have no clue why you are here. What people pay and choose to wait for is their business. In full disclosure I chose not to wait and have gone off and purchased from other sources. I asked for a refund and got it the next day.
Now since you have no orders and your friends don't really care about the issue you really have no business here so your only intention is to stir up stuff. That makes you a troll.

I had requested refund with "REFUND" subject email to James 2days ago.
I will post an update when I receive the refund.

OT Post and I hope that I will be forgiven but....

I posted my return and received my refund request in near record time.... from the Internal Revenue Service.... have to say they have gotten very efficient in processing return requests and sending out refunds....

I have had significant problems with this seller.

I have contacted James over the course of 3 months looking for a refund due to his failure to deliver.  He had not responded back to 4 emails.  I called him at his private number which I found online through the Kansas Department of Agriculture.  He basically told me to F-off that he's too busy to respond to people.  he went on a rant that he has over 5,000 customers and he broke his toe.  He went on to explain to me that as of the day that I called, he had 485 emails that day alone, and it's bothersome to answer emails when he could be in the greenhouse working.

After further research I have found numerous people that have been waiting for months and have not been able to get a refund for both his fig tree's and the fish he sells.

He just provides excuse after excuse.  If he was at least NOT rude, his story would have been a little believable.  It just sounds like a business that he put too much money into and can't deliver.

Buyer beware!

No, not really.  I did say earlier in the thread it is ironic that delivering the trees could make it closer to a Ponzi scheme.  But, I still maintain that the key component of encouraging future investment by creating the appearance of high rate of return, accomplished by satisfying initial investors, is not present here.  The fact that it's an order, not an investment, is also problematic for the definition, imo.

I think I've been real about the problems in this venture throughout the thread.  I've questioned how realistic it is; I've suggested James has already run out of money from the 2016 orders, meaning he's getting the money somewhere else (could be his pocket).  I've stated that if the money for the 2017 orders is being used to fund the initial trees that that borders on being a Ponzi scheme.

You, on the other hand, will apparently only be happy with one conclusion.  Something can be bad or wrong without it being a Ponzi scheme.  But you seem determined to call it that.  Ok, you call it what you like.  Discussion with you appears to be fruitless.

To all the members here that has blasted James,cussed him,called him a crook,doing a Ponzi Scheme, use your common sense, on just one thing: What do you think he is going to do with  1,000's of Trees? Y'all Get Real!

I have not seen a thousand trees,all I have seen is about 100 floating around in plastic kiddie pools and for all I know they could be brown turkeys.Has anyone got their order yet? Not me and I was one of the first to place one.

I was thinking the same thing - both what would he do with the trees and are there as many as he tells us. I'm still very conflicted but highly annoyed in the lack of updates and not a single report of a delivery made.

What to do with all these trees?

Oh, I don't know, maybe sell them.  If I had all those trees and did not have any of my money in them, I could probably come up with some idea of how to turn them into money, especially if I were as smart as James.  If he sold them all as unknowns he would have some major cash, enough to go someplace warmer and start over again, there are certainly enough supporters to do it again.

I would give him $5 each for all of them, even un-tagged/labeled

Lets make a deal, LOL

Some famous person once said "I don't make this stuff up, I just write it down and repeat it"  Henry Cho, comedian, I think

And what would you do with them? Spend all day every day working on them like he is? I could start a thousand more trees tomorrow but all I would have is an extra thousand trees I don't need and can't sell and no time for anything else. I'd rather keep my trees intact and enjoy an earlier harvest.

Does anyone know how hot a 7 ft hoop tunnel or rows and rows of them get when the heat and humidity arrive all of a sudden and before you have the opportunity to tear down the poly? Then again, if you can tear down the poly quickly enough all your thousands of young trees grown in these 7ft hoop tunnels should do just fine in the 90 degree sun although possibly without benefit of prior hardening off.... Then again, perhaps tearing off the poly and replacing it quickly with 40% shade cloth before the plants get severely sunburned can be done very quickly and efficiently when you have the shade cloth on hand and ready to go and sufficient manpower to erect same...

I'm just thinking out loud and hope he is doing a better job of managing his hoop tunnels loaded with thousands of new plants waiting to be shipped than I am doing with my tiny 24x14x7 hoop house loaded with just my small inventory of rooted cuttings and mother plants... My plants got sunburned these last few weeks and my little hoop tunnel has windows and 3 fans blasting when the temp hits 75...