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Sorry about the re-post, operator error!  ;)
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I placed my order over 6 months ago, so Pay Pal can't help. I e-mailed with questions 6 weeks ago, to date no answers. Requested a refund 10 days ago, to date no refund. I requested a refund through private message as advised above. Will update when a refund comes through.


That seems unusual. What did PayPal say? Did you pay with your credit card? If so, call your credit card company and dispute the charge.
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The cheerleaders are hoping they get theirs first so they can crow about it. Bluffing with a pair of 7's at this point.


IF I get my trees, and others do not, I would NOT be happy about that.

7 dollar tree "customers" want sucess for everyone...but my trees are just a legal CYA, then no thank you.

While I had "figs in my eyes", certainly the 7 dollar fig offer was contingent upon all working out perfectly....so delays were (are) not a huge deal. Other
Poeple did not have such caveats, so they are pressing foward tword legal action...the monies some have allegedly fowarded is significant.

Legaly, James Might be forced to remedy those customers first....






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Get a clue lewi. I was talking about people attacking each other for trivial reasons. Not about getting trees or not getting trees.


That was what the wink ;) was for, just having some fun applying it to all of us....pyramid scheme or not, a day of reckoning approaches...light as a feather I float away

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Everyone's giving out great points about this whole matter. I've been pretty hopeful about this whole ordeal from the beginning, but from all the delays month after month, I've become less patient. I lost a whole year of growing because of this. If he truly cared about this ordeal, he should've put a limit on the quantities of each variety instead of letting people buy tons of them and not able to propagate enough to ship out to everyone. He should close the online ordering system on the mean time until he's able to catch up on everyone's orders. But just the lack of communication on here isn't looking promising. I don't have much at stake as others do (only bought 10 trees), so I don't mind waiting right now. If nothing pans out by fall, I'll request a refund.
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That was what the wink ;) was for, just having some fun applying it to all of us....pyramid scheme or not, a day of reckoning approaches...light as a feather I float away

Bake_o_Lite


Gotya

Thanks Lewi

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In the begining I ordered 4 trees from James .Nothing rare I was not that deep on the knowledge of what's special or not on figs. Right of the bat he told me he wouldn't ship to Canada and gave me back my money. Clean Neat strait forward. Thanks James.I Guess if the first intention was to take money from people he would let me wait like the others. MHO .Now about what you call Grumpy Cat ''Frankaleen''.
In a way He is wiright.
If I had ordered 4 of the rarest figs that are out there for less then peanuts like he sells them, I would be willing to wait for a long time before I Got  them no complaint because I would not EVER pay the price of the market. 
Those who got big Ideas on rare figs and ordered large quantities are deceived because they  are not making money on their supposed arrival of special rare figs.I,ve read a 1000 plus postes on the subject and never commented but, if like others if I had ordered some rare strains and he could have sended them to me I would be more than patient because i would never had paid the big price elsewhere. 
This is MHO for what it's worth. 
Happy figging





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No refund yet.
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Someone posted..

“…talked with James in the past week. James, was "nasty" and belligerent, complaining about receiving almost 500 emails a day. Stated he had 5000 customers world wide..He did not have time to deal with all the emails when he could be in the nursery working.”

Do you guys know how much minimum wage is in Kansas?  It’s $7.25 per hr!!  With 5000 customers and clearly the money is rolling in (given just what commenters have stated here, without considering the other silent customers who don’t know about this forum), this guy could’ve hired a couple high schoolers even for $9-10 an hour, to work full time every week for the last month answering e-mails, and phone calls. Let alone working to get plants in the mail. Even at a minimum, a once a week update posted on his website might keep some folks appeased. Silence is only making it worse. Boo hoo, I’m so stressed out I can’t take care of my customers. I DO NOT FEEL SORRY FOR HIM!

If I did my search correctly, according to the Kansas Business Center, there is no business license in the state of Kansas for Greenfin Gardens. Nothing with Greenfin, or Tilapia Kansas, or even under his name. Makes this whole thing even more sketchy.

He is listed as a member of an Aqualculture Assoc. on Kansas State Extension website.

GreenFin Gardens/Kansas Tilapia
James Sperman
3935 Flush Road
St. George, KS 66535-9614
Tel: (785) 313-0965
E-mail: jameswsperman@gmail.com
Website: http://www.GreenFinGardens.com
http://www.KansasTilapia.com

Options for those who used Pay Pal and want their money back, but its over 6 months, would be to dispute the payment with their credit card company. Additionally, if people feel so inclined they could complain to Pay Pal, the State of Kansas Attorney General, and the Better Business Bureau. I encourage others to do what you feel is appropriate given your individual situations.

 

Oh, and if you want to see what he looks like, check out his facebook page. James W Sperman

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Oh my....

https://www.kansas.gov/bess/flow/main?execution=e1s5

Three distinct defunct businesses, all closed with a failure to file...all with his name and address.


Also, the fact that his Biz. Does not show up on the Kansas SOS website may be due incorporation in a diffrent state, or this: " state of Kansas does not register sole proprietorships, d/b/a, assumed name, trade name or fictitious name entities".

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I think on Monday, I'm going to call a few Kansas Attorney's to see if anyone wants to take on a class action lawsuit on behalf of all his clients.  We may only get half of what we paid, while the attorney get's everything, but at least it will stop James from taking additional income in.

And he had 4 business failures.  And if the records are correct, he doesn't have a business filed for the Fig's.  Therefore, as a sole proprietorship (or at least not incorporated or LLC, LLP, etc.), his personal assets are at risk too. 

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Dang it, looks like people are going to get their way and sink this eh? Do you think he can pay his settlements with our fig trees? All I want are trees! Haha
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Originally Posted by FiggyFrank


Good point.  And since there are lots of people selling cuttings/trees, I'll add some advice:  Uncle Sam REQUIRES you report ANY income, whether it's a business or even a hobby.  If your intent is to make a profit, you must report it to the IRS.  I have sold cuttings and have done the research.  The literature can be confusing, but when in doubt, pay the taxes.  Yea it sucks, but not worth the risk.  Carry on...



could his entity be incorporated in a diffrent state, the short answer is possibly....

poeple should check DE, NV and all 50 states if need be...I only have a cheap samsung phone for the net...

Also, keep in mind he is not closing this thread so he can monitor our mood and actions...best to keep your personal legal strategy to ones self...

He knows the suckers (us) woke up...so the sociopath will (has?)
stopped refunding, and will (has?) Likely sell assets (trees) via 3rd parties, ficticious names, etc. AT HIGH PRICES. (somehow, I don't think Ebay will mind or care).

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UPDATE FLASH ACHTUNG!

Bad news: http://www.kansasbankruptcylaw.com/exemptions.html

In kansas he can keep 160 acres, his homestead, his car, and any asset that has a note of debt (if you do not hold the note). He can do this every 7 years...

Somebody please find out how many times he has done this before?

There are other legal actions to be taken, mostly by big buyers who might be able to make this a criminal fraud case instead of a simple bankrupcy.


My Public apologies to: Babylon, Thai Fig and the lot.

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Dang it, looks like people are going to get their way and sink this eh? Do you think he can pay his settlements with our fig trees? All I want are trees! Haha


Yes, and it will be the lady who lost 4170 USD who will do it, can you blame her?

Mike, I wanted my 5 trees as well, but I am not sure James ever intended to deliver at 7 dollars.

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Good point.  And since there are lots of people selling cuttings/trees, I'll add some advice:  Uncle Sam REQUIRES you report ANY income, whether it's a business or even a hobby.  If your intent is to make a profit, you must report it to the IRS.  I have sold cuttings and have done the research.  The literature can be confusing, but when in doubt, pay the taxes.  Yea it sucks, but not worth the risk.  Carry on...


Sneaky. ;) Did not know snitching was encouraged in the Italiano community...but he will show (make a show) of a "loss"...especially important to prove in bankrupcy court...

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I think on Monday, I'm going to call a few Kansas Attorney's to see if anyone wants to take on a class action lawsuit on behalf of all his clients.  We may only get half of what we paid, while the attorney get's everything, but at least it will stop James from taking additional income in.

And he had 4 business failures.  And if the records are correct, he doesn't have a business filed for the Fig's.  Therefore, as a sole proprietorship (or at least not incorporated or LLC, LLP, etc.), his personal assets are at risk too. 



Not sure what to make of those.  The last one was from 2008 and they go back to 1998.  In every case it seems the business was closed by the state due to failure to file the annual report/fee.  Except for the last one, in which case there were 2 with the same name, one which was forfeited and another which was dissolved.

"The business entity did not file its annual report and fee before the forfeiture date"

I had an S-corp before which was for consulting.  Eventually I got hired by one of my clients full time.  I allowed the S-corp to dissolve but I wouldn't have called the business a failure.  It's hard to say without more info what happened with these entities.

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Folks,

I googled Class Action Lawyers in James' city, and spoke with 2 lawyers now.  Their recommendation was to call the DA's office.  I did that.  DA's office sent me to the County Sheriff's office, who sent me to the FBI via https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

I was urged to file a complaint online at this web address.

At minimum you should have:
  • Victim's name, address, telephone, and email
  • Financial transaction information (e.g., receipt from paypal, account information, transaction date and amount, who received the money)
  • Subject's name, address, telephone, email, website, and IP address  (Address above)
  • Specific details on how you were victimized
  • Email header(s)
  • Any other relevant information you believe is necessary to support your complaint


It would also be helpful to have:
1. any logs or emails of communication attempts with James
2. Timelines in which events have occurred
3. The main website you used to make the purchase

When legitimate complaints get filed, I'm told they will be then reviewed to determine if the local Sheriff's office will investigate, or the FBI will directly investigate.

I urge you to file a complaint yourself directly.

https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

Thank you.
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This guy is also a member of the Kansas Farmers Union.

https://www.kansasfarmersunion.com/james-sperman/

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Folks,

I googled Class Action Lawyers in James' city, and spoke with 2 lawyers now.  Their recommendation was to call the DA's office.  I did that.  DA's office sent me to the County Sheriff's office, who sent me to the FBI via https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx.

I was urged to file a complaint online at this web address.

At minimum you should have:
  • Victim's name, address, telephone, and email
  • Financial transaction information (e.g., receipt from paypal, account information, transaction date and amount, who received the money)
  • Subject's name, address, telephone, email, website, and IP address
  • Specific details on how you were victimized
  • Email header(s)
  • Any other relevant information you believe is necessary to support your complaint


It would also be helpful to have:
1. any logs or emails of communication attempts with James
2. Timelines in which events have occurred
3. The main website you used to make the purchase

When legitimate complaints get filed, I'm told they will be then reviewed to determine if the local Sheriff's office will investigate, or the FBI will directly investigate.

I urge you to file a complaint yourself directly.

https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx.

Thank you.


Thanks for the information.
This is the correct link, whithout the point at the end of the link

https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

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I do find it odd that he has stopped communicating. Yes that's a red flag. On the other hand I also find it odd that someone with no skin in the game would go to such lengths to try and take this guy down. I don't  blame you for creating a new account to do it either. With all of the public accusations you probably are opening yourself up for a libel suit if suddenly 500 people start getting their orders filled next week.

That being said I think James owes everyone an apology and an explanation. Communication is key in any relationship, be it business or personal.

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 Please do not believe those new members that invested in James $7 trees without doing any research and all of the sudden they now about James  more than their own kids...
and now they asking you for all the personal info so they can sue James...on your behalf...
Rob_Steven registered in January 2017
nunuorig      regisered in April 2017
Gardnernw   regisered in April 2017
FigPolice      regisered in April 2017
bobkelley1  regisered in April 2017

All of the sudden we have to trust that those people are saying the truth…

I am not defending James…

There is a lot of possibilities who those people are…

* Crooks…want to take advantage of us

* They work for James, his business is going to work on all cylinders and he does not want to mail those trees at $7 and he wants us to panic and ask for our money…then he can sell his trees at the market price.

* James decided enough is enough and he going to take the money and run.

I did buy his trees in 2015 and 2016…and the money I paid…is money I can gamble with... I bought more trees as an average collector (none business) than most of you and I killed (while I own them) more trees than most of you…so money I invested was high reward high risk investment…I will take my chances.

I do not trust people that just showed up and they want our best interest in mind…if you believe that…then they do have a bridge to sell.

I am not defending James he does owe us an explanation…but I do not trust the new members mentioned above…they might be one person…for all I know.

You Do what you have to Do…I know what I am doing.

 

 


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This is getting sicker and sicker by day.
I don't think I want to read this forum anymore.
This entire negativity is affecting me.
Nothing to learn here about figs anyway.

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Quote:
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 Please do not believe those new members that invested in James $7 trees without doing any research and all of the sudden they now about James  more than their own kids...
and now they asking you for all the personal info so they can sue James...on your behalf...
Rob_Steven registered in January 2017
nunuorig      regisered in April 2017
Gardnernw   regisered in April 2017
FigPolice      regisered in April 2017
bobkelley1  regisered in April 2017

All of the sudden we have to trust that those people are saying the truth…

I am not defending James…

There is a lot of possibilities who those people are…

* Crooks…want to take advantage of us

* They work for James, his business is going to work on all cylinders and he does not want to mail those trees at $7 and he wants us to panic and ask for our money…then he can sell his trees at the market price.

* James decided enough is enough and he going to take the money and run.

I did buy his trees in 2015 and 2016…and the money I paid…is money I can gamble with... I bought more trees as an average collector (none business) than most of you and I killed (while I own them) more trees than most of you…so money I invested was high reward high risk investment…I will take my chances.

I do not trust people that just showed up and they want our best interest in mind…if you believe that…then they do have a bridge to sell.

I am not defending James he does owe us an explanation…but I do not trust the new members mentioned above…they might be one person…for all I know.

You Do what you have to Do…I know what I am doing.

 

 




Whoah.... I created an account because I felt mistreated and taken advantage so I posted.

And, I NEVER asked anyone for their personal information. I know you are in love with a dream, but let's stick with the facts. AND... I'm not suing. I looked into a class action, and decided reporting it instead. I provided a link to the FBI's cyber crime website as reported to me by James' local sheriff department. This is the legal process when I felt I had money taken from me via the internet across state lines.

I provided the same information to everyone else, so they can have the same safety I appreciate, and to stop other people from looking their money.

Ever hear the saying "See something, say something"??

Worse case, I'm wrong and everyone gets their trees, nothing happens to your boyfriend.

My way, if I'm right, other people don't loose their money, and can buy figs elsewhere helping legitimate businesses.

And quite frankly, if I got my trees, you'd be seeing a LOUD public apology.

So easy where you point fingers there.
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I lost all respect for James when he came up with the pinkie toe excuse for being late shipping our trees that's when I started to do my homework,like someone said earlier don't let him know your legal  angle blind side him.I want my trees not a refund,i kept my end of the agreement and helped him heat his greenhouse to keep his banana trees and fish alive.I am going to wager the squeaky wheels get the grease.
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Whoah.... I created an account because I felt mistreated and taken advantage so I posted. And, I NEVER asked anyone for their personal information. I know you are in love with a dream, but let's stick with the facts. AND... I'm not suing. I looked into a class action, and decided reporting it instead. I provided a link to the FBI's cyber crime website as reported to me by James' local sheriff department. This is the legal process when I felt I had money taken from me via the internet across state lines. I provided the same information to everyone else, so they can have the same safety I appreciate, and to stop other people from looking their money. Ever hear the saying "See something, say something"?? Worse case, I'm wrong and everyone gets their trees, nothing happens to your boyfriend. My way, if I'm right, other people don't loose their money, and can buy figs elsewhere helping legitimate businesses. And quite frankly, if I got my trees, you'd be seeing a LOUD public apology. So easy where you point fingers there.


For those that think I just showed up, and don't have any "SKIN" in the game.

I previously posted the PP receipts for 6 transactions totally $4170.00, did not use a CC card to do any of them.

As I said previously I don't give a flip about figs, but my wife does. I simply purchase them (with her money) via my PP account.

So this is not nickle and dime stuff.

I have given Jame until May 1st to refund our money. He should be aware after over 15 voice messages explaining it, and 20+ emails.

After that I will act by myself and not discuss what I am doing. When my work is finished I might explain it or not.

Ciao
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lebmark

 Please do not believe those new members that invested in James $7 trees without doing any research and all of the sudden they now about James  more than their own kids...
and now they asking you for all the personal info so they can sue James...on your behalf...
Rob_Steven registered in January 2017
nunuorig      regisered in April 2017
Gardnernw   regisered in April 2017
FigPolice      regisered in April 2017
bobkelley1  regisered in April 2017

All of the sudden we have to trust that those people are saying the truth…

I am not defending James…

There is a lot of possibilities who those people are…

* Crooks…want to take advantage of us

* They work for James, his business is going to work on all cylinders and he does not want to mail those trees at $7 and he wants us to panic and ask for our money…then he can sell his trees at the market price.

* James decided enough is enough and he going to take the money and run.

I did buy his trees in 2015 and 2016…and the money I paid…is money I can gamble with... I bought more trees as an average collector (none business) than most of you and I killed (while I own them) more trees than most of you…so money I invested was high reward high risk investment…I will take my chances.

I do not trust people that just showed up and they want our best interest in mind…if you believe that…then they do have a bridge to sell.

I am not defending James he does owe us an explanation…but I do not trust the new members mentioned above…they might be one person…for all I know.

You Do what you have to Do…I know what I am doing.

 

 




Save your speach, James has lost the respect from almost every member here.
Members has the option to report James or not, is the individual choice of everyone.



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It is coming close to a year now, please refund my money.
 
Paid with
PayPal balance
Ship to
Michael Perez
7324 Coronet Ave
North Richland Hills
TX
76180
Transaction ID
7DG769285Y2893317
Seller info
WebAisles, Inc
785-313-0965
http://www.greenfingardens.com
greenfingardens@gmail.com
Purchase details
Galicia Negra - rooted fig tree (Qty 3)
$45.00
Item #GN-r
Genovese Nero (Rafed's) - rooted fig tree (Qty 3)
$45.00
Item #GeN(Rafed's) - r
I-258 - rooted fig tree (Qty 3)
$45.00
Item #I258-r
Ponte Tresa - rooted fig tree (Qty 3)
$60.00
Item #PT-r
Coll de Dama Gegantina - rooted fig tree (Qty 3)
$45.00
Item #CdDGeg - r
Bass' Favorite - rooted fig tree (Qty 3)
$60.00
Item #BassFav - r
Amount
$100.00
Shipping
$70.00
 
Total
$370.00
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I urge you all to file a report and stop this madness:

https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

File a complaint online at this web address.

At minimum you should have:

Victim's name, address, telephone, and email
Financial transaction information (e.g., receipt from paypal, account information, transaction date and amount, who received the money)
Subject's name, address, telephone, email, website, and IP address (Address above)
Specific details on how you were victimized
Email header(s)
Any other relevant information you believe is necessary to support your complaint


It would also be helpful to have:
1. any logs or emails of communication attempts with James
2. Timelines in which events have occurred
3. The main website you used to make the purchase

When legitimate complaints get filed, I'm told they will be then reviewed to determine if the local Sheriff's office will investigate, or the FBI will directly investigate.

I urge you to file a complaint yourself directly.

https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx



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It is coming close to a year now, please refund my money.
 
Paid with
PayPal balance
Ship to
Michael Perez
7324 Coronet Ave
North Richland Hills
TX
76180
Transaction ID
7DG769285Y2893317
Seller info
WebAisles, Inc
785-313-0965
http://www.greenfingardens.com
greenfingardens@gmail.com
Purchase details
Galicia Negra - rooted fig tree (Qty 3)
$45.00
Item #GN-r
Genovese Nero (Rafed's) - rooted fig tree (Qty 3)
$45.00
Item #GeN(Rafed's) - r
I-258 - rooted fig tree (Qty 3)
$45.00
Item #I258-r
Ponte Tresa - rooted fig tree (Qty 3)
$60.00
Item #PT-r
Coll de Dama Gegantina - rooted fig tree (Qty 3)
$45.00
Item #CdDGeg - r
Bass' Favorite - rooted fig tree (Qty 3)
$60.00
Item #BassFav - r
Amount
$100.00
Shipping
$70.00
 
Total
$370.00
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Ok Lebmark!

“ Please do not believe those new members that invested in James $7 trees without doing any research and all of the sudden they now about James  more than their own kids... and now they asking you for all the personal info so they can sue James...on your behalf...”

"I do not trust people that just showed up and they want our best interest in mind…if you believe that…then they do have a bridge to sell.

I do not trust the new members mentioned above…they might be one person…for all I know."

I registered so I could share my experience because I thought I was making a purchase on a legitimate website (which it may have started out that way). I, by the way, did NOT pay $7 a tree as everyone keeps mentioning as if that should make a difference.

I patiently waited for several months and when I heard nothing, I sent e-mails. When they were not answered, then I started the research and found this site with others like myself that want to believe the best in people but jeez, this is ridiculous!

Also, I am NOT suing James, nor did I (or anyone else that I read) ask for anyone personal info?

But as someone just said, facts are facts. James is taking money and not delivering. End of story. This isn’t a fabricated situation, or just some folks over reacting. Its customers that deserve to get what was offered for sale or a refund. Period! If people (like myself) were getting refunds there would be no reason to complain, right? Has anyone received a refund lately? I haven’t!! Has anyone received any of those orders he supposedly said would be shipped a few weeks ago?

It seems some are happy to wait (your choice) and others are now sharing information on how to report this unethical business operation and you are just pissed because then you think you won’t get your $7 trees!

This mess lies solely on the shoulders of James who is the one person who can fix it. Since nothing is happening those who are disgruntled have every right to complain to the appropriate authorities! If it sinks James you should blame him and nobody else. 

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James Sperman is a thief. He will take your money and disappear. Ask anyone who has ordered from him. BUYER BEWARE!
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A few thoughts from the outside looking in since I bought no trees:

The first line in the original post said, "Building a collection can get expensive, and rooting cuttings can be stressful and frustrating, so I'd like to make a special offer to members."  Forum members often make special offers to members.  I think that's a good thing.

The original offer also said:  "So what's the catch?  Well, if there's a 'catch', it's that you can't get the trees right away, because I'll have to grow them out for you."  I've read so many complaints about how slow some plants are to grow and how hard they are to root, and they're usually the most expensive ones.  For a member to add to their personal collection they would really only need a couple/few plants.  Anybody who ordered more than a few varieties of each tree is probably doing more than adding to their personal collection.  There's taking advantage of a generous offer from a forum member (buying a $100 tree for $7), and there's capitalizing on a deal for personal profit.  The original offer was for members to grow their collection.

I now know that the offer was made for more than just our members and was extended to people who probably didn't read the original post and jumped on a good deal.  On the other hand, if I happened to see a $7 Black Madeira tree that usually sells for over $100 I'd do some investigation before I plunked down a lot of money on it.  That's just me.

It was anticipated by the poster, though, that he could grow lots of trees because the first post said, "I have enough greenhouse space to grow thousands of fig trees over the next 6 months..."   And that he anticipated large orders:  "For example, if you want to order 40 trees, place one order for 25 trees and another order for 15 trees. Up to 40 trees with orders from members and you estimate you can grow thousands of trees seems like a reach but doable if you're an experienced grower and have the space.

I've made one post in this epic 1,180-post thread and it was to basically say cut the man some slack and give him time.  He did say that he had to grow out the trees.  Yes, he grew out the trees and then replanted them instead of shipping them.  That is a fact. 

I don't know.  This is just really sad.  At the end of the day you guys will do what you feel comfortable doing.  You'll wait for your trees or take it to the next level.  I feel confident, as much as one can over the internet, that this was not started as a way to bilk folks out of their money.  It would be great if this worked out for folks. 





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Hey Cheryl, that has got to be one of the best written post, I have read from any member here! I am with you!...I did buy Plants, so I am here for the "Long Haul" ! ..........It doesn't bother me to wait! : )

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1. I found James website through a Google search, which looks like a regular store front with no mention of special offer to members.

2. It's been over 2 years, and the offer was for delivery within this growing cycle. He should have returned the money instead of telling me to F-off.
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As much as you post here and just joined up, he probably got tired of listening to your mouth! I don't believe James said that to you!
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As much as you post here and just joined up, he probably got tired of listening to your mouth! I don't believe James said that to you!


Okay, you drew me in to the petty bickering. I started posting after he said spoke to me the way he did. You probably have a lot more posters now due to his lack of communication, and his attitude when he does communicate. Why are you so he'll bent on defending someone who is 2 years delinquent on his orders? Why are you trying to persuade people to give him a chance, when the end result could be the group of people losing thousands if not tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in total?
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@Nunuorig

I was just giving my opinion…I do not know if you read what I wrote or somebody read it to you…but clearly both did not comprehend my point…I was not defending James…you can read it again…I just said do not trust new people that we do not know who they are…we do not know your first name…male or female…Just a person with a message.

I do not know if you at the moment dating a gentleman…but not all men do…keep your experience to yourself.

@bobkelley1

Your story has lot of holes…hope you get your money if your story is true…

@Rob_Steven

Same as nunuorig…you did not comprehend what I stated…go read it again…I am not defending James.

@Gardnernw

Every person has his or her own tolerant level…do what you have to do…but I do not need to be told what to do…what good for you might not be for me…

@junglewild

Welcome to the forum.

Like I said James does owe everybody an explanation, the sooner the better…or everybody will think he left the building…


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James Sperman is a thief. He will take your money and disappear. Ask anyone who has ordered from him. BUYER BEWARE!


Junglewild, if you feel he stole from you, you can report internet crimes through this link. I urge you to do so, so it's properly investigated and if warranted, STOPPED.

https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
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I am not a brand new poster. I didn't just join and jump in this thread. I also did not take advantage of the $7 offer. I ordered from his website. There was no up-front warning of delays other than that they'd be shipped in a few months around February 1, 2017. That is not out of the ordinary for many online nurseries. I did not receive my order. He has not replied to attempts at communication. The only positive James has going for him is that people on here spoke up for him. As for comparing this to other nurseries that do occasionally fail...I've never heard of one failing to ship ANYTHING AT ALL FOR A YEAR while continuing to take orders. The only reason I haven't filed charges or done anything else is that I respect those who vouched for his character. That alone is what's holding me back. It might help dull the drama if some who have actually dealt with James (in that long ago time before he started this venture) would tell their stories that led them to believe he is trustworthy.
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Junglewild, if you feel he stole from you, you can report internet crimes through this link. I urge you to do so, so it's properly investigated and if warranted, STOPPED. https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx


Several other people and ME do not believe a word you are saying!

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@FrankAllen you don't believe what? That James has dropped off the radar and refuses to send the trees or refund orders? After a certain point this "backlog" becomes fraud and theft if he fails to fill the orders. I'm not saying that he won't, but for a lot of people life is too damn short to sit around waiting years for someone to ship out cuttings/trees. Next thing we will hear that the trees are too big to ship and we all have to pay extra to get our trees shipped. I get that some people don't want to admit when they have been burnt but I don't see how you continue to act like nothing is amiss when people have been waiting for almost two years and this guy hasn't been seen at all recently
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Several other people and ME do not believe a word you are saying!


And who are you and these other people? Tell me all knowing one, why in the world would I go through the trouble of joining this website and posting my experience with FigCuttings.com if it wasn't true? I don't go around making up stories just to create drama. Give me a break!
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It might be that he's again had to let cuttings grow to "trees" so that he can again get more cuttings. Thus putting off $7 tree deliveries to fulfill more recent orders with more profit margin, or simply to have enough material to eventually ship. People that say "no big deal just a $7 tree, I'll wait" may be encouraging this behavior.

This is my theory that I posted on the other board.  He grew trees out once to chop 'em up, he can do it again, I guess.

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As much as you post here and just joined up, he probably got tired of listening to your mouth! I don't believe James said that to you!


Frankallen, you seem like a troublemaker, "he probably got tired of listening to your mouth"?? Where do you come up with this nonsense?
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How is it people are saying they ordered 2 years ago? I jumped on his original offer immediately when he started this venture, that was almost exactly 1 year ago.

If y'all did buy 2 years ago, he had been replying to emails up until a month ago... so you're saying you hadn't contacted him until 2 years after you ordered?! The math isn't adding up.
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I am not a brand new poster. I didn't just join and jump in this thread. I also did not take advantage of the $7 offer. I ordered from his website. There was no up-front warning of delays other than that they'd be shipped in a few months around February 1, 2017. That is not out of the ordinary for many online nurseries. I did not receive my order. He has not replied to attempts at communication. The only positive James has going for him is that people on here spoke up for him. As for comparing this to other nurseries that do occasionally fail...I've never heard of one failing to ship ANYTHING AT ALL FOR A YEAR while continuing to take orders. The only reason I haven't filed charges or done anything else is that I respect those who vouched for his character. That alone is what's holding me back. It might help dull the drama if some who have actually dealt with James (in that long ago time before he started this venture) would tell their stories that led them to believe he is trustworthy.


I wanted to believe James was a good man myself until he started blowing people off. He's good at selling the dream ("future" fig cuttings and plants), but poor to nonexistent at fulfilling it. You can't advertise and take advance orders for a product and then decide after people send you the money that you now have other plans. If you're doing that at least be upfront and crystal clear about what you're doing. The http://www.FigCuttings.com website gives customers an expected date their order will arrive. If you check out his website now you'll see he's once again selling the "future". I ordered last fall for a spring delivery. Little did I know it wasn't going to be this spring, but "sometime in the future". James, you either have it or you don't. If you don't then stop taking advanced "future" orders until you actually have the plants and cuttings available. Return peoples money that you took under the false pretense that their order would be fulfilled as advertised by your website. That would be the right thing to do. We are not your welfare, but if you can quickly turn things around it could be beneficial for everyone, including you. Continuing to steal and ignore your PAYING customers will only lead to disaster and possible jail time or worse if you tick off the wrong person. I hope you're reading this.
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I ordered last fall for a spring delivery. Little did I know it wasn't going to be this spring


Waaaait a sec? You're this pissed off and you could potentially still get plants in the time frame he specified? There's still 2 more months of spring hahaha.
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And he already did. I'm gonna do everything in my power to get this guy in prison.
Lebmark , Just piss off man. Who the hell are you? " A LONG TERM FIG FORUM MEMBER" a forum that help scammers to deceive people?.
Frank , You are just a grumpy Pussy man, hoping to get your trees hence the support I guess LOL

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I urge you all to file a report and stop this madness: https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx File a complaint online at this web address. At minimum you should have: Victim's name, address, telephone, and email Financial transaction information (e.g., receipt from paypal, account information, transaction date and amount, who received the money) Subject's name, address, telephone, email, website, and IP address (Address above) Specific details on how you were victimized Email header(s) Any other relevant information you believe is necessary to support your complaint It would also be helpful to have: 1. any logs or emails of communication attempts with James 2. Timelines in which events have occurred 3. The main website you used to make the purchase When legitimate complaints get filed, I'm told they will be then reviewed to determine if the local Sheriff's office will investigate, or the FBI will directly investigate. I urge you to file a complaint yourself directly. https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx


It's terrible James is ripping off so many people. Now I know I'm not the only one he's ignoring. I'm definitely going to file a complaint against him. He can't just take peoples money and expect to get away with it.
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