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James. Could there be a fourth option to wait till all trees are ready? ;)

Yes, good point, that is a 4th option  :)

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There are figs everywhere you walk in my greenhouses now:

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The floaters are getting big, and will soon move into another tunnel where they can spread out and be up-potted (a lot of them are still in the clear 16oz cups they were rooted in).  I've been extremely cautious about giving them fertilizer, for fear of overdoing it, and it's obvious by their light green color.  That should change pretty quickly, though, when I up-pot them and give them a good dose of composted manure.

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Here's a look inside my aquaponics tunnel.  The trees that are planted in the gravel are growing really fast right now, as are the 5gal trees that are hidden from view.  The lanky 1gal plants were potted up from an indoor cloner the day before; they look ten times better now after getting a few days of good filtered sunlight (this pic is from last week).  I think I'm going to move the cloners out into the greenhouses this spring so the cuttings they're rooting will get more light and lankiness won't be an issue on subsequent batches.

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And here's one of the resident frogs busy on bug patrol :)

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Overall the figs continue to grow well. There aren't any personally assigned plants at this stage, just a sea of fig stock. We're only just now getting near the halfway point (timewise) of the project, so there's still quite a while to go, and as is the case with propagation projects like this, most of the growth will occur in the last half of the time, since plant growth is exponential.

Two greenhouses are full right now, and I'm getting ready to unpack one into a 3rd greenhouse over the next week or two, which will make for 3 full greenhouses. Shortly after that it'll be time to start trimming and airlayering the legions of mother trees in order to create the 2nd generation, which will in turn be grown out into most of the small well-rooted trees that will be shipped.  (If only 1 generation were needed, this would have been a 3 month project; but it was always scheduled to use 2 generations, which is why I gave the 6 month estimate of July.)

On a final note, I wanted to say thanks to Ingevald (Byron) for visiting last week.  He's one of my favorite posters here, just a really interesting and nice guy, and it was a lot of fun getting to spend half a day with him.  Thanks Byron!  For those who haven't seen it, he wrote a really nice intro to figs back in 2009 that was helpful to me when I first started out:  https://lawrencefruittreeproject.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/article-growing-figs-in-kansas.pdf

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James,

You just continue to impress. I placed another order before I saw this today.

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Ditto ...
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Thanks, Phil  :)

Thanks, George :)


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A lot of folks requested that I try to find particular varieties for them.  Here are the ones I've been able to get so far:

Albacor Comuna
Albacor de Molla Blanca
Bakio
Baleares Plot 3
Barada
Bisirri #1
Black Provence
Blanche de Turquie
Blava (Campenera)
Blaveta (Campos)
Bombarral
Borda Barrquer
Bordissot Rossa
Brooklyn Dark
Calvert
Carolina Beach 1 Unk
Celeste (Belleclare)
Coll de Dama Gegantina
Dark Portuguese
Dark Syrian
De la Gloria
De la Reina
De la Roca
Dels Ermitans
Emalyn's Purple
Falls Gold
Figo Sofeno Escuro
Galicia Negra
GM 125
GM 149a
GM 171
GM 172
Golden Riverside
Grise de St. Jean
Gros Monstreuse di Lipari
Hardy Hartford
Italian 253
Italian 358
Italian 376
Janice
Julie's
LaRadek Brown Turkey
Lemon
Manresa
Maroc Noir
Martinenca Rimada
Maryland Berry
Mega Celeste
Melanzana
Napolitana
Naragansett
Natalina
Neveralla
Noir de Barbentane
Pananas Purple
Panevino White
Papa John
Paradiso
Pasquale
Pernette Noir
Peterson Prolific
Pingo de Mel
Planera
Ponte Tresa
Princesa
Raspberry Latte
Red Israel
Royal Vineyard
Salem Honey
Santa Cruz Dark
Sierra
Strawberry Teardrop (UCR 184-15)
Tashkent
Tauro
Tres Num Prato
Troiano Calabrese
TV3
Unknown Dark Greek (Navid's)
Unknown Owensboro
Unknown White Italian
Vernea
Verte
Victoria
Violet Patlican
Vasilika Sika (Vasile's strain)
Vutata
White Adriatic
Wuhan
Yellow Lebanese (Bekaa Valley)
Yellow Long Neck
Zingarella (Gypsy)

There are still another 20-30 requested varieties that I haven't been able to get yet, so if you don't see your personal requests in the list above, that's why.  If/when I do get them, I'll add them to the 2017 listings on my site with the others.

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We have about an acre of open land left.  This season I'm going to plant in-ground figs in 1/2 to 2/3 of that open area, and I've just about convinced myself to add a 30' x 12' x 96' tunnel dedicated exclusively to potted figs. 

But I must admit, I'm starting to think more and more about the empty 10-acre field for sale/lease that's adjacent to our property...

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You must sure have the hookup getting these rare varieties.
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>>> But I must admit, I'm starting to think more and more about the empty 10-acre field for sale/lease that's adjacent to our property...

My advice ... DO, do go for it!

My brother down-under in Aussie-land, a while back, has had a similar opportunity, but for some reason ($$?) did not buy; now he regrets it very bad.
He and his two sons have a sustaining 'cut-flower' farm that could have been expanded.

From above, as for us, opportunity coming, we did buy a 7 acre farm/property next-door to my son in more-South NJ.
In a year (or 2), we will be living there enjoying our 4 young  grandchildren, plus some other good stuff ...

 

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Greenfin, you keep growing and you will have to hire bodies @$15 an hour just to keep all the fig plants alive. :)
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If it is a good field next to you and you can afford it , I'd echo George's encouragement to get it.
As long as it won't overburden you.
Beautiful work you are doing.

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The main drawback of the field is that the developers who own it want $255k for it (so over $25k per acre).  I've talked to them about leasing it, and the lease price is something I could afford, but I'm reluctant to invest in building a lot of infrastructure and setting up orchards on leased land.  

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we did buy a 7 acre farm/property next-door to my son in more-South NJ.
In a year (or 2), we will be living there enjoying our 4 young  grandchildren, plus some other good stuff ... 

That sounds like a real home run, congratulations! 

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Very impressive work.  Tell them what price you want to pay for the land.  If they get tired of waiting they might let you have it.
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Galicia Negra, Martineca Rimada, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Fioroni Ruvo, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.
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GreenFin, just curious as to what measures you are taking to verify the varieties you are acquiring are legitimate?
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Thanks Greenfin. I just placed an order for March 2017 delivery. I can't wait to get my order in July. Very excited you are doing this for everyone.
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Greenfin...unbelievable setup you have going there...just placed an order for 2017...I had not been on the site for some time...figs in my garage coming out of dormancy prompted me to take a look at the good 'ol F4F! I'm glad i did. Looking forward to receiving a fig tree I have coveted for a while next summer!
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GreenFin, just curious as to what measures you are taking to verify the varieties you are acquiring are legitimate?

Here's my general system for trying to ensure accuracy for people who buy through me:

1) Acquire stock from well-established, highly regarded sources who have already done substantial vetting.  (HarveyC, drivewayfarmer, Jon/pitangadiego, etc)

2) If acquiring stock from multiple sources, compare them as they grow.  (if they're clearly different, there's clearly a problem; that happened when I got Smith from 3 sources last year and one clearly stood out as a Smith Not)

3) Observe them as they grow to look for signs of inaccuracy.  (seeing finger leaves when one would expect broad 1-lobed leaves, etc, but making sure to take into account the unreliability of leaf shapes on young trees)

4) (Long-Term)  My long-term strategy for achieving and maintaining total accuracy involves not just my own observations and those of my trusted sources, but also getting as many additional folks as possible to help vet the varieties in an attempt to find and replace any inaccuracies.  To that end, I'll be creating a variety page for each cultivar, posting dozens of pictures of the trees, their leaves, and their fruit, and enlisting the help of thousands of eyeballs to help my own.  Feedback from growers will help, too: if a variety is inaccurate, some of the folks growing it will notice it and report back, and the problem can be quickly fixed.  The result should be an ever-tightening grip on accuracy.   (they may all be 100% accurate right now, but the point is that even if they aren't, this is a system for achieving it over time)

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From the pics I have seen, you seem to have ~100% rooting success.
 My congrats & quite amazing ...

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James, thank you! You always update us on your progress and post pictures. Wow, thats some hard work!! I can only imagine the labor of love that goes into growing these guys! And, that is a ton of requests!!

Also, quick question, I remember at one time you offered some of the "fish poop" for sale (I believe it was you). Do you still offer it?

Thx!
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Jolly Tiger
Lamperia Preta
Herschtetten
St. Jean
Black Ischia

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Meg - The fish poop was me, but I put the idea on the backburner.  Right now I mostly feed it straight to my bananas, and they're showing their thanks with 15 bunches (and 5 more soon):  Dwarf Brazilian, Dwarf Cavendish (3), Dwarf Namwah, Dwarf Orinoco (4), Dwarf Red, Grand Nain, Pisang Ceylon, Pisang Mas, and SH-3640 (2).  It's awesome that plants can convert fish poo into such delicious treats!

Kerry & George - Thanks :)

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Just put my order in for the 2017 group. Thanks. I am glad the prices are soooo in my budget. May buy more as the year goes by.
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James,

I was wondering, how different is the air inside your structure compared to the outside?
Will we need to adjust the figs to the dry air and sun?

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Hi Folks,

I just stumbled onto this forum and immediately registered.  I've grown figs off and on for many years but the figcuttings site was a terrific find since i've always wanted to try more varieties.  

Can anyone tell me if there's a summary of the various offerings on figcuttings.com?  For example, if there are differences in taste, sweetness, etc.  I'm in 6a zone (plan on moving to 7a in next year or two) but plan to grow in containers.  

Can all of them be grown in containers (over wintered indoors) and still produce fruit in those zones?

Thanks for any information you can offer!  I appreciate it.

Frank

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Welcome to the group Frank.
Quick, order a Galicia Negra, Ponte Tresa and Black Madeira now....then worry about what else is what else!

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And a Martinenca Rimada...and a De La Reina....and the Col de Damas...and....
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James, I was wondering, how different is the air inside your structure compared to the outside? Will we need to adjust the figs to the dry air and sun?

It's really humid in my tunnels.  The summers outside are usually really muggy, but nothing compared to inside the tunnels.

I was planning on setting up dozens of 5' diameter hard plastic wading pools outside and setting sufficiently old/strong figs in them, so those trees would already be acclimated at shipping time.  But the youngest of the trees would still be in the greenhouses at that time.  I hadn't scheduled in any acclimation time for them, just the time it would take them to grow to size in their sheltered environment.  That was something I had overlooked, thanks for bringing it up.  Let me think on it a while.

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Can anyone tell me if there's a summary of the various offerings on figcuttings.com?  For example, if there are differences in taste, sweetness, etc.  I'm in 6a zone (plan on moving to 7a in next year or two) but plan to grow in containers.  

Can all of them be grown in containers (over wintered indoors) and still produce fruit in those zones?

Hi Kirby,

I don't have a catalog of variety summaries, but the archives of this forum are great for that.  Just use the "Search" feature, type in the variety name, and select the 'topics only' option, and you should find lots of quality results. 

Jon/pitangadiego, the owner of this forum, has a great database that he's put together here: http://figs4fun.com/Varieties.html (he also sells trees--you can email him to let him know what you're looking for and see what he has in stock)

Most varieties can be coaxed into fruiting well in your zone if grown in pots and given sufficient heat/light/water/nutrients, but the late-season ones will be more challenging if you don't have a good way of waking them up early.  There are tons of folks here that would know more about that than me (I get to cheat with greenhouses), and there are a lot of good conversations about it in the archives.

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James,
Will the figs that you'll ship next March be dormant or will they be actively growing.

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It's really humid in my tunnels.  The summers outside are usually really muggy, but nothing compared to inside the tunnels.

I was planning on setting up dozens of 5' diameter hard plastic wading pools outside and setting sufficiently old/strong figs in them, so those trees would already be acclimated at shipping time.  But the youngest of the trees would still be in the greenhouses at that time.  I hadn't scheduled in any acclimation time for them, just the time it would take them to grow to size in their sheltered environment.  That was something I had overlooked, thanks for bringing it up.  Let me think on it a while.


Thank you for responding!
For the CA folks, when they get the dormant trees, I hope this won't be a problem.

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It's really humid in my tunnels.  The summers outside are usually really muggy, but nothing compared to inside the tunnels.

I was planning on setting up dozens of 5' diameter hard plastic wading pools outside and setting sufficiently old/strong figs in them, so those trees would already be acclimated at shipping time.  But the youngest of the trees would still be in the greenhouses at that time.  I hadn't scheduled in any acclimation time for them


You need a train and maybe those vinyl strip doors on your tunnels for the summer.  You put the pots due to be shipped in a week on the train and it travels through a greenhouse, out into the sun and back in to another green house.  You've got switchable track so there's a path with only 2 min of sun every 3 hours but you can switch it to longer paths in the sun as needed plus adjust the speed of the train. Then you have auto acclimatization because you don't have time to move pots.  By 2023 you'll need to buy out BNSF.

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Galicia Negra, Martineca Rimada, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Fioroni Ruvo, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.
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Thanks everyone for your comments and getting me started.  GreenFin, I'll definitely get started searching for a good variety and I appreciate the information you provided.

Frank

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You need a train and maybe those vinyl strip doors on your tunnels for the summer.  ... it travels through a greenhouse, out into the sun and back in to another green house.  You've got switchable track so there's a path with only 2 min of sun every 3 hours but you can switch it to longer paths in the sun as needed plus adjust the speed of the train.


  Somebody definitely has way too much time on their hands to sit and ponder such things...          LOL!!! 

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Unbelievable.  I wish I could get mine to grow as fast!  They're really beautiful, you are doing a great job.
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Both Costco and Walmart are loaning money to farmers. My brother-in-law is in the wholesale produce business and confirms it.

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You need a train and maybe those vinyl strip doors on your tunnels for the summer.  You put the pots due to be shipped in a week on the train and it travels through a greenhouse, out into the sun and back in to another green house.  You've got switchable track so there's a path with only 2 min of sun every 3 hours but you can switch it to longer paths in the sun as needed plus adjust the speed of the train. Then you have auto acclimatization because you don't have time to move pots.  By 2023 you'll need to buy out BNSF.

Oh my gosh, Bob, that's hilarious :) 

And genius!

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Will the figs that you'll ship next March be dormant or will they be actively growing.

Hi Ray,

I'm intending for most of them to be actively growing, but I'm considering shipping dormant trees to folks in states like California that require bareroot shipping.  Your profile shows you as being in South Carolina, so yours should be in potting mix and actively growing.

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Well I put in an order for next March as well... kinda like being in a "fig of the year club" I have some coming this July and then some more next March. I ordered early because I was concerned some of theing varieties I wanted like ponte tresa would sell out. With the affordable prices this was a great opportunity and I figure just a great way to build a collection in the future without going broke buying on ebay. Thanks again and I look forward to building up my collection of varieties!!!
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Don't know how you do it, but at these prices and despite running out of space, I could not resist ordering a Martinenca Rimada, Ponte Tresa and Galicia Negra. This should complete my collection for now, unless...
Thank You

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Welcome to the group Frank.
Quick, order a Galicia Negra, Ponte Tresa and Black Madeira now....then worry about what else is what else!

Yes any other votes for "must haves" for our amazing Fig collections? I love hearing the experienced members list of candidates for best Fig! So many Figs, so little space! Jodi

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Jodi, The fact that some varieties are rare or new does not mean that they are the best. They are just hard to get. By the way your Brown Turkey is showing some green!
Of all my humble collection I still have to find a bad tasting fig. If you are a collector, it's a different story, you could never have enough varieties, but when you run out of space or can no longer take care of them then the culling will begin. Some figs are on top of the scale when it comes to taste but unproductive in pots while some others are very productive with very little flavor punch. Some varieties such as Martinenca Rimada perhaps would make a great piece of conversation if they make it in your yard.
Some varieties are hard to get results out of and I'm not sure why.For example my Panache did not produce a single fig in three years despite taking care of it. Perhaps it needs more time.

After growing figs mainly in pots for the past three or four years, I'm finding out that output  = input. The ones that I care for more than others deliver better quality fruit than the ones I neglect due to lack of time or energy, over/under-watering, root overheating etc... The neglected ones will produce a lot of leaves.
From one year to the next I keep discovering a top tasting fig that I didn't know about in my own yard:)



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Very cool Sas. It is such a journey! So much variation from one stick to the next even from the same tree! I can't wait till I have the chance to compare a few in my yard, hopefully this year. I am afraid that by the time I really know my Figs I will be a very old woman! And I am glad Daisys twig is growing for you. I saw her tree just yesterday and I can not believe how it is growing and all the huge Brebas on it! Cheers, Jodi Not sure why it is sideways;-)IMG_2633.JPG
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In the book the "The Meaning of Trees" it is said the fig regulates the heart and that the true essence of Figs is...food for the soul.
Daisy's IBT cuttings will be available in January/February along with a few Lampeira Parda.  
Wishes for Martinenca Rimada, Black Ischia, I258, CddRoja, Jolly Tiger, Your favorite Figgy!
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good evening, im looking for martinenca rimada fig cutting, do you have it?
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Sas, i agree...never enough!
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I started work on expanding my in-ground outdoor fig orchard this week, I think the tilled area will provide around 12,000 square feet for additional figs.  I'll cover it in landscape fabric, bury it in thick wood mulch, and add some irrigation, hopefully all in the next couple of weeks.

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The trees for the propagation project continue to grow, and I'll be busy unpacking them over the next week.  I just bought 30 more 5' diameter hard plastic wading pools; I'll set many of them outdoors to hold up-potted figs now that our last frost is probably past, and the rest will go in another tunnel greenhouse to hold the youngest trees.  After all the older trees have been moved out of the floating wading pools pictured below, I'll probably reload the floating pools with another generation, too.

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BTW, I picked and ate my first bananas of the season over the past couple of days :)  The variety is possibly/probably Manzano.  The finger I tried yesterday was good but still slightly chalky; the one I ate today was nicely ripe and very good, maybe the best flavored banana I've ever eaten. 

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Alan & Meg,I have more pots than I could handle. It all happened during the early stages of my fig craze as I was collecting varieties for my own research. Had I known what is involved, I would've taken it easy. The list of top figs kept growing and growing, until I became convinced that I almost had everything I need including the ones promised over here. Then I realized I had to get a couple more...
You should see my porch, it is standing room only. My initial aim was to have enough for my fig forest, but with delays and setbacks it is still a dream.
I planted 22 fig trees last spring at my wildlife property. They made it through the whole summer without irrigation only to die off during the fall. Some were obviously damaged by deer and other critters. That was a loss of almost 22 different varieties for me. I'm still hoping for some to come back. In the end no one needs so many trees unless you're going commercial or doing it for wildlife.
I agree that they are much easier to care for in the ground and that was my plan all along. Then I realized that there are all kinds of wonderful fruit other than fig trees such as jujubes, persimmons, pomegranate etc..and must have room for those ones too.
I keep saying that I have enough, then a variety such as Galicia Negra or a Martinenca Rimada becomes available and you know the rest.
Despite making new discoveries and still waiting for many varieties to fruit, I almost know which names I would want to keep. They'd have to be exotic and rare. Especially after I taste the fruit. The main reason for wanting to keep those ones and not the common varieties is not because they are necessarily better, but because of the fear of not being able to easily replace them. Ideally I wish to keep 10 to 12 varieties at most which is more than enough to satisfy my taste buds, but as long as I have room, I will keep them all.

James what spacing are you going to use for your in ground orchard?

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I'm working on an update, I'll post it in a few minutes.

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James what spacing are you going to use for your in ground orchard?

Sorry I didn't see your question until now, I'm going with 8' spacing within each row and 7' between rows, staggered like this:

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Sorry about the lack of updates lately, this is a really hectic time of year for me on the fish farming side of things.  I raise blue tilapia that I deliver all over the state (in the morning or at night, so I can be home during peak heat to care for the figs); here's a video of me netting some out for a client who lives about 2 miles from me:



The new news on the fig front is that I got one of these 14' x 50' shade houses for the figs: https://www.growerssupply.com/farm/supplies/prod1;gs_shade_houses_shade_cloth-gs_sunblocker_pro_shadehouse;b43dbae4_10355950.html

I'm hoping to have the shade house up and filled with figs in about a week when I get a bit of a break on the fish front. 

Here are some pics of the figs:

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Here's an example of what the ones in the floating pools look like when you pull them out (definitely time for larger pots and more space):

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When I took some soft green cuttings and put them in the cloner, I got roots, but they were much smaller and weaker than the roots I got from hard green or lignified cuttings.  Here's a pic of a soft green cutting with some lignified cuttings to show what I mean:

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The soft green cutting produced lots of really thin roots that never grew past an inch long.  Eventually it withered and died.  I tried the same thing with 3 soft green cuttings, and got the same result with all 3.  I think that if I had added some nutrients and better light the soft green cuttings might have eventually flourished, but I don't know, and I don't want to take risks with your root systems. 

So to try and ensure that everyone gets trees with good strong root systems, I've decided to air-layer the mother trees rather than trim and root green cuttings from them.  That way the established roots of the mother trees can help power good root growth for the new trees-to-be.

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what a wonderful post   wow   i am impressed   beautiful job.
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green fin    thanks for the spacing posting    just what I was looking for.
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