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They're similar to LSU purlpe. but not sure where these come from...

BT

Sorry, I forgot to include interior shots.
 



westcoastgrower, which BT?

Right now I have a new tree this year labeled Large BT that the leaves resemble.


Fruit is still green, but has a long stem as well.

It's a Brown Turkey.

Looking at the fruits and leaves is similar to LSU Scot's Black,but Mine is not ripe yet so,I am not sure if it is Scot's Black.
If it is ,you got yourself an excellent late ripening cultivar.

Jason, Which Brown Turkey?

Its leaves and the figs are similar to my Scott's Blk's. Mine did produce ripe figs last week. Here is a picture taken from my Sc. Blk's leaf.

Navid.

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Looks like the same BT that both Nelson and I got from Monrovia.  It's a plain old run of the mill regular BT.  The leaf shape, the fruit size and shape, the fruit coloring, the huge void inside, the pulp color, all are indicative of BT in my opinion.  I've eaten about a hundred similar fruit off my in-ground tree the last couple of years.

I am not going to argue that is not Brown Turkey,because ,yes Monrovia sells a Brown Turkey very similar to the fig in question,,and very similar to DFIC 17 Brown Turkey in Davis Collection.

I just read snaglpus' thread "Will the real Brown Turkey please stand up" and it answered my question "Which Brown Turkey"?  The figs pictured above are California Brown Turkey (San Piero).

However, there are three separate varieties in the picutures I posted.  One, as Jason mentioned, is Monrovia Brown Turkey seen at right in the tree and fig interior/exterior photos.  The second is Sumadija Dusan one fig in the left foreground in the tree photo and on the left in the exterior/interior photo.  The third is Joe Morle's San Pietro which is on the fig leaf with a quarter.  Joe Morle's fig doesn't appear to be a mis-identification - just a spelling/typo error.  He was very close to San Piero - one letter.


 

I have one question for you:  Were they all generally watery & sweet with no real flavor characteristic?

Pretty much - every once in a while, I'll get one that is very pleasant - but not a lot of fig character.  It doesn't help that they tend to split easily and have to be picked early.

Yeah, I think that is the general gripe about almost all varieties of "brown turkey".  It is my biggest gripe with our Brown Turkey.  No flavor.  All watery and sweetness, no "taste".  It may as well be sugar water.  Not really interesting to me.

When I see a fig and it has a purple body with yellowish green top fading down to purple, large (or huge) cavity inside, flesh color is somewhere between a raw pork chop and a raw steak, it's almost always a BT.  I may find one in thirty that actually taste "OK".  I've found more in my area than I can shake a stick at (it's the southeast....)

I would trash mine, but I doubt anything else would grow in full shade on the north side of my house. 

 Is that Dusan's Black Yugoslavian? reason I ask is because Dusan only had one fig from Sumadija, Serbia and that is the Yellow Serbian a tiny yellow fig the other fig he had was from the former yugoslavia wich he shared with a few people some got it labeled as Huge Black & The rest as Black Yugoslavian.

Anyhow the Black Yugoslavian is the fig in the middle.








I would like to add that last year I too found this Black Yugoslavian & Monrovia Brown Turkey very similar in fig shape and leaf shape only when they ripened the main difference was the skin. Black Yugo had waxy smooth skin on all the figs and Monrovia BT had rough skin but besides that they are nearly identical. Neither one was anything to brag about in terms of flavour.

To me, those look like Black Spanish.  My BT figs taste better than my Black Spanish.

Nelson, I got this fig as Sumadija from a reliable source.  I saw a post by Paully (not my source) calling it both Yugo Black  and Sumadija Dusan http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?FIGS-FROM-EAST-ADRIATIC-COAST-4067027&highlight=sumadija   #20, and I started calling it Sumadija Dusan.

I checked the skin on both Sumadija and Monrovia Brown Turkey today.  They are pretty much the same - not rough, but not as waxy as Conadria.  The young immature figs on both were very rough though.

left Monrovia Brown Turkey, right Sumadija 

 


Dennis,  Condit lists a synonym for San Piero - Negro d'Espagne (Black Spanish) - another California Brown Turkey alias. 

 


Aww, don't tell me that...  I have a Yugo Black that is growing exceptionally.  Last thing I need is another BT.  Not very excited after reading the last coupld posts.

Fignut, it certainly does look like black yugo all my figs last season were also shaped like yours I found the black yugo a little more round than the monrovia BT as well. I too was wondering if these two were Identical but have not had enough time with both to say for sure 100% some times figs look identical one season and very different the next. But they are certainly very similar.

Fignut & Nelson, I like the flavor of Sumadija Dusan or Yugo Blk. Its a hardy one. Unfortunately it split badly. I left it outside last Fall and it had hardly any die back. The Yugo yellow is a small fig. It is a late fig here & quite productive. Would send some cuttings south for trial. Its hardy too - kept in pot outside last Fall. Its growing very well since the roots went to ground. I have another that is known as Yugo Red. I thought it had died but it re-sprouted. This one I got to baby it carefully as the person who gave me this tree doesn't have it anymore & he could not recall where he got it here.

Thanks fignut and all, this is a very interesting thread.  I purchase a Joe Morley BT two years ago, and it's nice to know some of the history behind the cultivar.  I haven't had any ripe figs yet, and no cuttings yet either.

udaman,  The fig pictured above is not a Morle Brown Turkey.  It is a Morle San Pietro.  I think it is actually a San Piero or California Brown Turkey.

Morle's Brown Turkey is a very different fig.  It is a southern Brown Turkey, about the size of Celeste.  It is very good, but small.

Top Robin Brown Turkey, Bottom Morle Brown Turkey

 

Morle Brown Turkey



 


Nelson,  As you know figs show a lot of variation - even on the same tree.  In the photo above of Sumadija and Monrovia Brown Turkey on the trees, they look identical.  In the last photo I posted the Sumadija looks very round.  In this one it is elongated - and has a neck!  Who knows what causes the difference?


Left Sumadija Dusan, Right Monrovia Brown Turkey



I can't say that they are positively identical, but they are very similar.  Jason's reaction is one reason similarities like this should be reported.  Also, most people only have room for a certain number of trees.  Are they going to want two that are almost identical - even if there are minor differences such as extra bumps on a leaf lobe?  There should be a significant difference - enough to justify a separate variety.  Otherwise, it's a variant, or strain, of a variety.  

I think it's a good idea to mention similarities - even if you're not sure -  just a question might give other forum members a heads up, and put more eyes to work figuring it out.    


The first two pictures are Celeste. The 2nd is definitely Celeste, the first looks lime a Celeste type.

Additionally, that Momrovia BT is rather smallish for what my tree puts out. The fig on the left is much more accurate to my Monrovia BT.

That is pretty funny. I sometimes mix up my words too. Never crossed fig with a lime though.

My favorite mixed up  is : You sneeze you loose.

Karla

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