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Hello

I recently bought a fig called Patlican, a Turkish fig.

Does someone here know anything about it ? hardiness ? does it need pollination ?
is it easy to care ?
I know its a dark fig.

Thanks



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Patlican figs Turkey grown in the Black Sea region
 
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Phew! Man those are some good looking figs! How cold hardy are they aliok1?


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I don't understand you saxonfig.I dont know english lanquaqe.Translating google tanslate.

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Bu sizin dil midir aliok?


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yes my lanquage it is

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Figs link

http://www.agaclar.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1181


http://www.agaclar.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10835



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Bu ben post # 3 diyor. Düzgün tercüme olmayabilir biraz argo kullanılan beacause: Vay! Adam bu iyi görünümlü incir vardır! Nasıl soğuk hardy onlar aliok1 nelerdir?


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This is what I said in post #3. It may not translate properly beacause I used some slang: "Phew! Man those are some good looking figs! How cold hardy are they aliok1?"


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Patlican figs pictures that are not mine.I copied one from Turkey forums friends

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Figs grown in Turkey, very nice.See my messages old

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Yes, very tastey looking figs. Thank you aliok1.


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I don't understand you saxonfig.I dont know english lanquaqe.Translating google tanslate.



Merhaba

Geçenlerde Patlican denilen bir incir, bir Türk incir satın aldı.

Kimse bu konuda bir şey biliyor burada ? tahammül? Bu tozlaşma ihtiyacı var?
Bu bakım kolaydır?
Ben onun karanlık bir incir biliyorum.

resimler için teşekkürler, çok güzel bir incir ağacı arıyor

Google, ama size sormak sözlük google o çok iyi demek değildir çevirmek.

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Hello

I recently bought a fig called Patlican, a Turkish fig.

Does someone here know anything about it ? hardiness ? does it need pollination ?
is it easy to care ?
I know its a dark fig.

Thanks for the pictures, very nice looking fig tree

I try google translate to ask you, but google translate doesn't translate that very good.


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çakmak, Thanks

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I can't help you with your questions flaxss. Maybe someone else here knows about this one - ?
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Ben sorularınızı flaxss size yardımcı olamaz. Belki başkası burada bu bir bilir -?

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Do you know if Patlican fig need pollination?


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I bought this and another Turkish Green fig ( possibly Beyaz Orak). 

They both took off, with spaghetti roots.
These were both one of the easiest and quickest to root.
One of the last to start but one of the first to be potted up.
Ran out of room in the plastic cup.

Patlican



Green Turkish Fig ( Possible Beyaz Orak)



The green fig leaves curled on their own in bin and have stayed that way.

The leaves are stiff and firm with no limp yet, so the curling is interesting. Still have no positive idea if parthenocarpic,
but from everything I have read and seen, it is.


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By the way, Patlican is pronounced Patleejan which means eggplant in turkish. We shall see how well it will bear for us here.
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Yeah

Everytime I tried looking up info, I kept getting cooking recipes.

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yes they where easy to root, i have not potted up mine yet. but the roots are grown good, maybe grown 1,5inch the last day. the rooted cuttings that are in clear plastic bottles a growing better then those that are in black containers.

my cuttings developed  syconium befor roots and leafs, but i broke them off.

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Nice spaghetti roots, Flax!!


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Yeah

Everytime I tried looking up info, I kept getting cooking recipes.


I have tried also but not found so much, this i what i have found; (I haven't read it all)

http://translate.google.se/translate?hl=sv&sl=tr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.agaclar.net%2Fforum%2Fshowthread.php%3Fp%3D747820

http://translate.google.se/translate?hl=sv&sl=tr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.akcaabathaber.com%2Fnews_detail.php%3Fid%3D4015%26uniq_id%3D1297497837

http://translate.google.se/translate?hl=sv&sl=tr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.samsuntarim.gov.tr%2Fteknikbilgiler%2Fliftletler%2Fbahce%2Fincir.pdf

original ;
http://www.samsuntarim.gov.tr/teknikbilgiler/liftletler/bahce/incir.pdf

and i forgot your fig plants looks great

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Nice spaghetti roots, Flax!!



thanks i might transplant them soon into a new container.

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I have two small cuttings rooting with each having a huge birds nest roots but haven't pushed a leaves yet.
Had to snip the top on one of them the other day because it was starting to rot. I hope I made a right move.

Very tasty looking figs
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Rafed take good care of those two. I must say the patlican figs were by far the best rooter's I have ever rooted nice thick roots but all four died after transplant. So now back to 0


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How long after transplant did they die?


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Dominick the first two died about 3 weeks after transplant the other two died about a week later. All four had such a nice rootball already and atleast 10 leaves and I checked soil moisture with the moisture meter and made sure it was moist but a bit on the dry side but still was not good enough.


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Well according to your schedule of events, I still have a ways to go before I can feel good about any type of success. Only in 1 gallon for a week out of bins.

I would like to have great success so as to spread this one around.

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Dominick wish you the best of luck with you plants, just keep a close eye on them it was litteraly over night they wilted. But then again I have been having issue with extremely high humidity during the day and very little at night lost lots of cuttings this season more than any other season thus far. Atleast 50 so far.


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My rooted cuttings are now outside in a closed cold frame, and are doing great so far, they have grown nicely and enjoying the warm weather. I haven't potted them up, i Think I will wait with it.

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Nelson,

I will give you back one of mine.
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Quick Question:

I just found about 3 greenish white bugs on the leaves of ONLY my Patlican fig. I found a couple of  black dots ( maybe eggs) over the course of the last few weeks on JUST my Turkish fig cuttings.

Doesn't seem to be affecting the cutting or leaves yet. The humidity in the bin is around 90%. I don't see them on the cuttings outside the bins already in 1 gal pots.

They are about the size of this- " - yes about the size of that quotation mark. They have multiple legs. When I touch them and press I think I kill them. But like Lazarus, it rises and walks, in this case, crawls away.

Just curious of experiences and/or what it is, in case it could affect the cuttings.

NOTE- Not on any other cutting except Turkish.  Maybe traveled from the Middle East as a Hitchhiker.

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Here are one of my cuttings, I transplanted it in April and it has grown nice, sadly a ''heat accident'' happen to my cuttings, it got to hot (113F,45C) one day in my cold frame so some of the roots fried and the leafs fell off, this happen when i still had them in the plastic bottle, after that I transplanted them in new containers and they recovered with new roots and new leafs. Now they have grown slow because it has been chilly weather. But I'm glad that they are alive and is growing a least some.

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Quick Question:

I just found about 3 greenish white bugs on the leaves of ONLY my Patlican fig.


Can it be Aphids ?

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Could be- No damage seen-just weird looking- Haven't seen them again!


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Here are pics of my one left

Doing well except for the cold-I fertilze witha 1/8 strength 20-20-20 once a week





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Its looking really great it seems to grow well, do you have cold weather to?




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The weather in Northeastern USA has been a bit chilly. Last 2 days have been 60 f or lower. But figs are forming on my other trees surprisingly. All my new rootings are very slow because of the weather. A little below normal on weather. Very rainy. 5 days of sun, 5 days of rain. On and off.


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Ok, guys..
When I was living on Black Sea..I eat all the time Patlican and Green figs..
They grow near houses..No one ever water them..
Black Sea almost never get cold..
We swim in a Sea in December...They are good tasting figs..
I don't think they do need polination.. I don't remember seeing wasps..
I do have few Patlican figs here from this year cuttings, they are easy to root..
Don't like too much sun..So they in a shade for now..
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Thanks fo the tips Olga.

I have the green figs as well.

By the way I loved swimming in the sea offr the coast of Calabria in Italy.

The sea would wash in and create pools of water 30 feet inland about 5 feet deep.

When you are 10 yrears old, that is so much fun.

No fear of getting washed out by sea.




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Hi!
Yes, Black Sea a very beautiful place..I think this is was my favorite place and still now..If I will ever decide go back..I will go to a Black Sea..
I love the ocean, but here you can't swim to far, sharks..
And when water calm you can see everything in a buttom of a Sea..
I love to dive in a Sea and see all this life under water..
Beautiful place..
This is where I first time try fresh figs too..
Sweet memories..
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Yes Thanks for the tips Olga.

My fig has grown nice all summer (I have only one left), it has a strong rootsystem now. Its has starting to grow more leafs, befor its stood still but the root was growing much.




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in the one picture i see a cutting with the growth coming from the very end, is this the tip of the branch? all the plants that i bought from cuttings all leafed from a side node, so i have not seen this before. and if so does the cutting end up looking like a air layer?
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I got this fig early this spring. It came from south Italy. The man  that I got it from was calling it a eggplant. He said, that is what they called it in Italy. I was wandering if it maybe is the same fig? It grows well for me in the sum. Only one fig on the tree and it has not ripen yet. The tree is a good grower. He told me that it gets fig twice a year, late june early july  and they are big. Shape like a eggplant. The next ones ripen end of september early october.

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If you save the tip it will grow from there, if the tip is cut it will grow from a side node i think. Here is i side view; the tip has been pinched.





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I have treated this like a baby. I have left it in a 1 gallon and slowly added fertilizer to it to build a strong root system.

Roots look healthy and strong. Ready for next year.

Your tree looks good and well ahead of mine.

Good luck!

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Thanks

But i have kept my indoors (I took it inside in August), even do it has been warm outside. But it has grown nicely indoors. I also have a Romanian fig inside in the windowsill that has rooted and started to grow.


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Hello

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Dominick and Olga,
Please let us know how Patlican is doing.

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Slowly. I may put in my Self watering containers to jump start
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My friend from turkey told me that : Patlican, Bardacik Figd would need pollinator. (Figs wasp)

The Link info about Bardacik Figs :
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=tr&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=id&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tr.all.biz%2Fg126374%2F&act=url

The One that He recommended me to have which does not need figs wasp is "White Orak figs "

The Link info for some Turkey's Figs Research:

http://www.belgeler.com/blg/1dqw/incir-genotiplerinin-karakterizasyonu-ile-cinsiyet-ve-bazi-meyve-ozellikleri-icin-iliskilendirme-haritalamasi-yontemi-ile-molekuler-isaretleyicilerin-belirlenmesi-characterization-of-fig-genotypes-and-development-of-molecular-markers-for-sex-determination-and-some-important-fruit-features-using-ass

Hope it would help a little.

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