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Unknown Tioga - need help with ID

I was in the neighboring county (Tioga County) the other day, and spotted this fig tree.  The owner had no idea what variety it is, but after we spoke for awhile he offered me a cutting in the fall.  I tasted three of these figs, and they were delicious.  The taste was sweet, with a honey taste and a "figgy" taste. Almost like a brown sugar taste in there too, or carmel.  The most ripe of the three (almost starting to dry, but not quite) also had a  "nutty" taste too, a little like dates but maybe also like a hint of pecan pie.  The other two didn't have that so noticeably though, so probably that's from that one being overripe and almost starting to dry.  All were very juicy, and sort of jam-like consistency on the two ripest ones.  They were great!
 
So, can any of you help out with ID?  I have more pictures too, but these seemed like enough.  (Don't want to overdo it with the photos).  Also if you need a higher resolution pic, I have some (I just resized them down to fit here).  Sure would appreciate any help with ID.

Mike   central NY state, zone 5

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Bump for a great looking fig.  Can I be on the waiting list for cuttings?   :)

You sure can Bob.  Any ideas what this one is?  It sure is tasty.  The owner has it growing in a greenhouse, so it's way ahead of the outdoor figs around here.

Mike   central NY state, zone 5

no idea what that is, but it sure looks good.

OK, I was back there again today, and found some new trees (same variety) that the guy had made from cuttings this spring.  The leaves look pretty different from the big mother tree... maybe that's because of the soil the older tree is growing in, or the amount of sun in the room, or other cultural aspects?  They look a bit different, and now I have a few ideas what the variety might be.  But really hope to hear from you guys who've got more experience ID-ing varieties.  Anyway, here are a few pics of the offspring... same variety but a new tree just propagated this spring:

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Although the guy said it was the same variety, he said it was his brother who had made the new tree... so it's possible that he's mistaken that it's the same variety.  To me the leaves look pretty different... the dominant leaf pattern on the mother tree seems pretty consistent, but it doesn't really resemble some of the leaves on the young cutting so much.  Anyway... just offering more pics in case it helps with ID...

Bump.  (Still hoping for some help on ID of the one pictured in the first post).  

Also, the second set of pictures (7/23) seem to be a different variety to me... it is a different tree.

I didn't check the leaves, but it actually could be Hardy Chicago, or one of the related varieties.

now that jon said that, I looked at my tiny winny HC and yes, those leaves have great resemblance... could be it!

First thought for me was HC.  Scrolled down, saw Jon's comment... I agree with him.

Thanks guys.  I mentioned in post #5 that I had ideas then, and HC was what I wondered about.  But I was quite unsure, because this fig tasted GREAT (the best tasting HC I've ever encountered).  So I was being careful not to lead the discussion in that direction, and sort of half hoping that it'd turn out to be something else (because the taste seemed so unique compared with the previous HC figs I'd eaten, albeit from young trees).   This particular tree is over 15 years old (probably over 20), and growing in a greenhouse.  If it's truly HC, well then it must be true that fig flavor improves with age of the tree, because these were the best tasting figs I ate in 2012.  I'm planning to grow some cuttings from this tree starting in late winter, and I guess I'll have a chance to compare with my known HC's.

Again, many thanks to Jon, Grasa, and Jason.

Mike   central NY state, zone 5

I will say that pics of the eye of a few ripe fruits could be helpful. Eye seems a little tighter in yours from some of the pics up there.

My vote would be an Italian Dark or a varient of the Chicago hardy line, since I have a dark Italian unknown name that leaf and fruit looks very similar and has that nutmug, pecan pie taste when making jam from them

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I will say that pics of the eye of a few ripe fruits could be helpful. Eye seems a little tighter in yours from some of the pics up there.


OK, here are a few higher resolution pictures.  (I think they're labeled in the filenames if you do a mouse rollover).

Do these pics help solidify your identification of this fig, Jason?

Mike   central NY state, zone 5


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lovely figs. love how the skin cracks.

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