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--- A real Palmata? (PIX)

I think I found it (but I might be wrong..)!
I believe this is a real Palmata (Alma is a cross of Carica x Palmata, just as an info).

It is covered in many smallish figs, some are ripe and on the ground and some are still green. When I opened a fig, I saw many wasps inside. I picked up a few and put in a covered cup. Soon, I could see the wasps on the walls.

It is interesting that the rest of the Caprifigs in the area do not have the ripe figs any more. This one is quite late.
The leaves are not hairy, they are one-lobed and smooth but very rigid.

Any thoughts?

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So, you dont eat these fruits, do you?

This whole wasp thing is like... did man really go to the moon?  Unless I see, touch, I don't understand it, but I am happy you are having fun with them.

Igor

The leaves are very similar to the 'Benghalensis' fig but not the fruit.
- Palmata leaf stems are pink,..these are green -
http://www.public.asu.edu/~camartin/plants/Plant%20html%20files/ficusbenghalensis.html

Could be a hybrid !?
Where have you found it ? The tree looks well taken care of.
and from your findings it's a Caprifig ! Noticed not much (if any) male flowers on the fallen fruit
The insect seems geared to 'oviposit' on short stem galls, so,  into Carica wilds...and to pollinate the Caducous (Smyrna) fig
The green fruit on the tree on the leaf axils seem well timed to be Mammonis
Did you see where the ripe ones fell from ??.. old wood ?

Very interesting!

Francisco

Francisco,

Thanks for your input! I suspected that I would get many questions from you :)
I checked the Benghalensis online, my fig is not it for sure, 
http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20q?search=Ficus+benghalensis

The leaves are different, mine are much larger. 

Maybe it is a hybrid, who knows… And where I found it? Well, here on any given street I can found you at least two fig trees per block, they are considered weeds and grow everywhere. Some are wild and many are planted by fig loving people.
This particular tree was clearly planted near a condominium complex, by the windows, probably for a shade.

I have to check where the ripe figs are, will try tomorrow.

But regardless what it is, the fruit is filled with the wasps!



Good !
I see your neighborhood is not much different from mine...figs pop up everywhere, mostly planted by people (Smyrna and Lampeira mainly)  but many wild as well.

If you can try and see/pic if the ripe and falling figs do have the typical set of male flowers
Crossing these pollen rich flowers just prior to leaving the fruit through the eye the insects will be smeared with that pollen.

(see this pic with an example of a pollen rich still green Profichi with that strong 'bush' of male flowers)

Francisco




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Has anyone nailed down exactly where the (in)famous fig-wasp took hold in the USA?
The only place I have heard of is only in some (blessed) locations in California ...

Why not in FL ?!?

  • Rob

I would think that in order to naturalize a location there would have to be a significant amount of trees growing in the area.  Probably would require a large commercial growing operation, at least at the start, until the wasp became established and trees started growing wild from fertilized seeds.  I am not aware of any such commercial growers in florida.  In California there is a larger commercial fig crop. 

Perhaps the humidity and soil/nematodes in FL make it harder to grow figs, therefore no commercial operation.  Or maybe it's just more profitable to grow oranges.  Who knows?  I would think there are parts of FL where the wasp could survive the winter, but in order to mate, etc, they'd need a significant fig tree population.

I thought only F. carica has male-female trees and F. palmata is monoecious (every syconia has both male and female flowers) like tropical Ficus species.

What's the truth?

IMO, this is male Ficus Palmata. 

 

"Flowers - Unisexual, monoecious

(individual flowers are either male or female, but both sexes can be found on the same plant), * Yogesh Joshi

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Plants with male and female organs on the same plant;

with bisexual flowers or unisexual flowers on different parts of the same plant. *Serene Hargreaves, RBG Kew

 

And Ficus Palmata is a colony of blastophaga psenes too. 


Figgyme, what book did you cite from?

Very interesting post and well done!

Does this mean that ficus carica figs with single lobe leaves are related to ficus palmata?

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http://www.figweb.org/Fig_wasps/Agaonidae/Agaoninae/Blastophaga/Blastophaga_psenes.htm


Interesting find Igor. Those whole figs in your hand look nearly identical to some of the runt figs on my Celeste.

Just how far can a wasp fly anyway? I doubt there are a significant number of wild figs in my neighborhood, just about every square inch of growing space is controlled by a home gardener or a landscape maintenance company.

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