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Another unknown, small black fig

Vasile,

You are leaving us in suspense. Can you please tell us what it is?
Anything you know please.

I must have missed it, what cultivar is it?  It looks really good.

I already gave a hint

That fig looks like the night sky. 

Does it really look like Ischia Black?

Jason thinks it's a I/B but I want Vasile to say otherwise.

I concur I told Jason what I think and after the last set of photos I am 100 %.

I/B aka B/I

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That's what I'm thinking as well

Well, if that's the case I told Jason he found a healthy FMV free strain. This is still good news anyway you shake n bake it.

A nice fig indeed!

I love those white dots on any black fig.
I have seen some figs with dots before; e.g., VdB & Negretta?

P.S.
I hope Martin does not mind them 'white' dots on his figs...

Man, I don't know.  If there's one thing I've learned from plundering this site is that figs really could look like anything.  Because all I've got is the one PN, I compare everything versus that limited view, and really, all of these figs from provence and naples can really look like one another.  PN has such an extreme variety of leaves, or at least mine does, that I could totally understand how it could look like Noire de Caromb, in FMD's picture--the only way that you could even tell a PN from anything other fig from Provence (or Bordeaux) is the diversity of leaves, though I'd probably have trouble with Vista and Raspberry Latte.  Looking at the fruit here, I first thought it was something similar to RdB.  Roundish and all.  I could be convinced of BI because the flesh is very similar to my PN like the kiwibob photo and that was something I latched onto when I was thinking about what PN actually was.  However, this fig could be some close, not as good kissing cousin of UCD BI, and hey, isn't it early in the year for the fruit?  Or this is breba?

One last comment:  It was always a shame that we in Atlanta grew all those stupid Black Turkeys.  We really could have, and should been growing these nice Southern French and Italian figs all along.  Just not enough old Italian families around here, I suppose.

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Originally Posted by rafed
Jason thinks it's a I/B but I want Vasile to say otherwise.


Albert (northeastnewbie) tipped me off earlier that it could be IB.  After reviewing the pics at the F4F database, seems likely it could be.  Looks like Herman just confirmed the possibility.   I have a couple rooted from UCD.  Slow growers and not much to compare. 

Is IB extremely crunchy?  This was.

Wish I had more cuttings to share.  I could only manage to get a couple feet of wood, and it's already split up too many ways.  Will continue trying to get through to the owner.

@shah8 - I believe what I ate (and pictured) was breba figs and a few days underripe.  New growth was just starting on some branches.

well, what did it taste like, though?  Liked the part about the skins.  The best part of eating those underripe PN brebas after I couldn't stop myself from picking them, was the nice aromatic qualities chewing the skin releases.  Vegetal, but very nice.

Keeping in mind it was underripe, the skin tasted sweet but muted and it wasn't quite tender yet.  Even for underripe, the flavor was complex.  More richness and figgy flavor than anything, a lot less dark berry flavors than I usually find with other dark figs.  Good nutty finish from the seed crunch.  I liked it and I don't normally like seeds in my figs.  In hindsight, I'm wishing I would've grabbed the one ripe one I saw before leaving (bird tore it in half, looked not so appetizing).  By looking at that one, I can tell you, it's definitely got a dark reddish-brown flesh when fully ripe.

superr fine indeed Jason!  Those figs look like eggs!  Think of me in the future if you ever get extra cuttings this Fall.  I got 2 IBs from UCD.  It would be nice to compare the 2 next year.  
cheers,

Those look like main crop to me. They also look very nice. Congrats

Yup, I'm familiar with all that, but not too much like your Negronne?  PN goes for rich sorta figgy, acid/sugar balance/intensity, and fruit tones rather than fruity.  Others, however, has described BI as being not very figgy at all...

The only figs worth growing are Group 2 figs + Black Madeira! heh...Oh Smith, and uh, wait, I'm going onnanotherlonglistrant...

Nice score Jason. Hopefully it has an amazing story behind it.

Shah8, tasted nothing like my Negronne.  That was all berry.  I will reiterate for the tenth time though: none of these ate were fully ripe.

And Brent, may be, but saw new growth coming... We had a very mild winter... So it is tough to say.

Understood, but believe you me, I would have eaten them and declared them ripe.  I've never waited for dead ripe figs, and only go "Oohh!  I missed one and it's all soft and squishy, disgunnabegud!"  Of course, this is all about paranoia about birds and other critters, and figs like these are good not-quite-ripe anyways.  A slightly unripe fig in the gullet today is better than a perfectly ripe fig on the bush tomorrow.  What is more interesting is that the wildlife left the mystery figs alone.

Well Yes It is Black Ischia ,I have no doubt about it,and if it is 12 foot round,That makes it a normal growing Ischia Black,not like my UCD specimen that is still 1 foot tall now in the eight year,and it has only six fruits on it.
But they are Identical to the fruits of the fig Jason found.
Let's Hope it is a healthy tree,and does not originate from cuttings from UC Davis Germaplasm.
If so I give 3 years from now and I see this cultivar ,very common in the USA.
Like4 I saID in my initial post here:
Jason you won the jackpot!

gorgi - love the martin white dots comment :-)

nice find.

Nice looking shun you got there
The fig is pretty too. 

I love the looks of that fig. The little dots are darling. If you ever want to part with more cuttings, I'd love to give it a try in my little micro climate. This tree sounds nice and healthy.

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