I've also filed a dispute with PayPal and that was shot down. The only answer I got from them was that it's past the 180 days timeframe and there's nothing they can do for me, but they will continue to collect money from Jame's sales. It seems like James was well aware of this loophole.

I've also filed a dispute with my credit card. They are working to get this resolved. I encourage everyone to file a dispute with their credit card company before it's too late to do so. 

Why is it your business ,Grumpy Cat, how much if any money someone invested in this theft?
Someone define "sucker" for this guy.

Oh, almost forgot...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Troll is correct Frank. Don't feed the troll. :-)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grumpy cat is a wannabe biker, picked on as a child, and an Auburn fan. He wants to know your business, but claims we want to know his. As for free cuttings, what ya got?

He didn't scam everyone. Some of us had no problem getting our money back.
As I said before, his communication sucks but I do believe there is a better than 90% chance that people will get their stuff. It doesn't really make much sense for him to go through all this effort, set up all those tunnels and grow out all of those trees just to try and scam people out of 7 bucks a tree or whatever it is.
Does it suck he isn't posting anymore updates, yup but why would he with all the haters here now?

All of you that are crying, why not go call James or email him. Your trying to take your frustration out on other members who have nothing to do with his business.

Well said Jeff.

Oh and !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😉

Jeff, he hasn't replied to any emails in months... This is a scam plain and simple. I even sent an email asking for suggestions on which figs to buy that he didn't reply to. He just doesn't care.

There is a less than 1% chance anyone will get what they ordered.

The average person doesn't know what a fig is other than a fig newton and certainly has no idea that there is more than 1 variety of figs, that being a fig newton.
you also have 2 major forums for fig enthusiasts and the only outlet is ebay. There really is no place for him to sell a thousand or thousands of fig trees other than to people on these forums. No other market exists. Sure he could sell a few on craigslist or something but not thousands especially in his local community where many of those trees wouldn't last through the winter.

The only options is for you to pursue legal action or wait.

Clear communication is really lacking.

If any of you had taken 30 seconds out from your excitement at finding someone selling CHEAP fig cuttings and trees and done some research before you ordered you wouldn't be in this mess. All of those good saying - "Buyer Beware" and "A price too good to be true". We have people claiming they spent thousands of dollars on trees. Who spends thousands of dollars or even hundreds of dollars without doing research? If someone has never shipped a tree, I'd consider it a gamble making any purchase from them.

*grows figs*

The reason I did not get into this was the potential for non delivery and almost no recourse with the wait he demanded. 
I feel sorry for people that have lost lots of money but I too believe all the signs of a possible scam were there. I gamble of fig listings from unknowns with a little research. I do not believe I have been scammed by small individuals selling cuttings from their yard yet. I have received the incorrect fig types or poor cuttings from multiple sources including so called trusted sellers and national nursery companies and big box stores.

Mistakes are made, but deception is also out there. I have 3 VDB plants from 3 sources, one has never had a finger leaf and actually looks like a Brown Turkey after 3 years. Mistake or intentional? Who knows......

Anyone putting money up for a future crop should be very careful, too many things can go wrong as seen here.

I do know this, as long as people keep a thread alive using all of his business names the people that do look him up on the internet will find out he is a crook! I encourage all involved to continue to post on this subject.

Caveat Emptor!  

If you go to his webpage he posted an update last week.

Updates? No one has gotten a single fig tree or cutting out of him since late 2015.

Read some earlier posts in the thread, we know about the "update" and we are not amused at the deception.

I know everybody is sick about hearing about James the Thief.

As posted on the now closed thread, where I 1st became aware of Greenfin and the Thier. My Thai wife is a trusting sole, works pretty hard for "HER" money and asked if I would use my PP account to buy some figs?

I placed the following orders for her:

here are the orders that were placed:

5606-1072-4942-3039 Mar. 19, 2016  $143.00

0436-0341-6863-6631 Mar a9, 2016 $641.00

18883573X9817125Y Apr 3 2016 $758.00

#9FH22599L/M688*10*n Apr 12, 2016 $665.00

5D88493043252961U May 8^th 2016 $693.00

27G70270NS858580S Jun. 26 2016 $275.00

0795-6490-3113-5968 Mar 24, 2016 $170.00

ONV29760XV978304R Apr 25. 2016 $826.00

Total........................................$4026.00

The limit is small claims court is $4000.00 plus cost.
The county sheriffs  office will serve the papers. ($26)
You can file with a notarized statement and a filing fee.
You still have to personally show up and present your claim.
This "town that James the Thief lives in has about 125 people.
The county seat is not much larger.
These are the forms you will need to file:

http://www.kansasjudicialcouncil.org/Forms/Chapter61_Small_Claims.shtml

It appears that PP as kicked James the Thief out, he now uses a PP service called "Web Aisles" I filed a fraud complaint today with PP about this listing.

I travel a lot internationally and trying to get a date where I can be there is my biggest problem along with going and getting hit with a continuance. It appears the farm belongs to the Thief's father or I would post a bond and lean it.

It amazes me that James the Thief still list a link on his web page to this forum???

For what it's worth, James has been using Webaisles since at least December 2015, when I first bought some fig cuttings from him.

My sympathy to you, Bob.  While I do not think Greenfin's business practice is ethical, but exactly what are you ordering from James that would add up to that much money?  No offense here, just curious because I can not imagine to handle that many fig cuttings/trees for the rest of my life if we are talking about $10/tree or cutting...

I think his wife was trying to start a fig farm in Thailand or something.

Report the theft here:

https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx