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Recently a member of the GrowingFruit forum received an email from James and shared it:

"Hi ---,

Your email is 850th in line, i.e. there are 850 unread emails ahead of yours, so it's only by blind luck that I just saw it. The reason I haven't responded to your emails is because my inbox is completely overwhelmed from all the people demanding constant personalized updates, demanding favors, or simply cussing me out and issuing veiled threats. I've received an enormous number of emails/pm's/calls since the very beginning, and I was able to keep up with them for about a year, but I fell behind several months ago when I badly broke my foot and had to start dedicating every single waking minute (about 16-17 hrs/day) just to getting the basic chores done each day. The chores took longer because I couldn't move as fast, and it was excruciatingly painful, but if I hadn't pushed through and done all the chores every day, then there would have been a lot of damaged, stunted, or dead trees. If I skip chores for even 1 day, then there is widespread wilting and leaf burning.

I'm currently working 100 hours a week (14 hrs/day every single day of the week, no days off ever for the past 18 months) doing the actual hands-on farm labor involved with growing all these figs, so I don't have the extra hundreds of hours that it would take to reply to all those emails as fast as they come in.

I would be happy to send you a refund, but my PayPal accounts have been frozen (due to complaints from people who are mad about me not responding to their emails), so I am not able to send refund payments at this time. I'll send it as soon as I can.

Best regards,
James"



Sorry to say, but there goes any chance of people getting refunds. Looks like he is only blaming his customers, so I wouldn't expect any sympathy from him.

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^typical (((GreenFin))) behavior.

I got word yesterday that Amex will be refunding my last and 3rd payment to James.

Thanks for the post Babylon. Cheers.

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Wow.  Just... wow.  To blame customers is totally devoid of accountability.  No one forced James to accept all these orders to the point of being as overwhelmed, as he claims to be.  And if he is this overwhelmed, why continue to take orders?  Especially when he broke his little toe, he just kept on taking people's money when he was purportedly that bogged down.  What a load of actual BS.  
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This is what happens when the walls close in on cowards and criminals. They blame us.
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A few issues. Why would the trees die in a greenhouse after just 1 day of not doing "chores"? I put that in quotes since that is what children do when their parents make them. Adults just call them responsibilities. Second, let's say he gets 100s of emails. There are simple explanations for the emails. It's because customers have no updates and want their money back. Yet, he still is taking more orders? Then he says PayPal froze his account because he won't issue refunds. So he knows the accounts are frozen and is not doing anything about it. Perhaps he could just issue all the refunds, provide timely updates for people who have been waiting for a year, shut down the ordering system, and get everything taken care of. 

James says, NAHHH, let's go back to doing "chores" and whine about it. 

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A few issues. Why would the trees die in a greenhouse after just 1 day of not doing "chores"? I put that in quotes since that is what children do when their parents make them. Adults just call them responsibilities. Second, let's say he gets 100s of emails. There are simple explanations for the emails. It's because customers have no updates and want their money back. Yet, he still is taking more orders? Then he says PayPal froze his account because he won't issue refunds. So he knows the accounts are frozen and is not doing anything about it. Perhaps he could just issue all the refunds, provide timely updates for people who have been waiting for a year, shut down the ordering system, and get everything taken care of. 

James says, NAHHH, let's go back to doing "chores" and whine about it. 


Anton I guess you didn't grow up on a farm like James and I did. I've been doing chores for 65 yrs. His figs are still in cups but now have big tops. If not watered every day they will at best lose their leaves and at worst die.

I'm not going to make excuses for James. It's past time for that. He obviously should have hired help to get started shipping this spring. And he should have stopped taking orders long ago. But I don't believe he's purposely defrauded anyone. Everyone coming after him will assure a bad ending. I hope everyone gets their money back.

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Anton I guess you didn't grow up on a farm like James and I did. I've been doing chores for 65 yrs. His figs are still in cups but now have big tops. If not watered every day they will at best lose their leaves and at worst die.

I'm not going to make excuses for James. It's past time for that. He obviously should have hired help to get started shipping this spring. And he should have stopped taking orders long ago. But I don't believe he's purposely defrauded anyone. Everyone coming after him will assure a bad ending. I hope everyone gets their money back.


I only made fun of his use of the word chores since it sounded like something he really didn't want to do. I did not grow up on a farm, though near a lot of farms in central IL so I knew a few farmers. I know how hard they work, but rarely did one refer to farming as chores unless they were kids. Where I grew up chores were "clean up your room" and "put the dishes away".

Based on prior pictures of his cups they were in cups but in trays. It can't possibly take 18 hours a day to water even 100s of trays. I still think he is just playing the victim and blaming the customers for high demand, followed by confusion and then anger.

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Anton wants to be on the trusted seller list at Ourfigs, they said he needs to prove himself more, so that is what he's doing. Earning their "trust". He doesn't care if this place ends up a smoking crater.
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Anton:

Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to be critical of you. I was just explaining my experience with chores. To my knowledge you haven't said anything regrettable on this forum about James or anything else. Unfortunately I can't say that about many other posters on the subject of James.

Please have a good day.

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I'm curious why a person who never posted here before would post that some unknown other person got an email from James and then post what the email is said to have said. I'm also wondering why, when so many people are desperate for news on this topic, no one else has mentioned this email. As far as I'm concerned it is hearsay upon hearsay upon pot-stirring. I'm angry about my order taking so long so I'm not advocating for James but the way this topic keeps coming up with total disregard for the fact that the original topic was locked for good reason is ridiculous.
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Anton wants to be on the trusted seller list at Ourfigs, they said he needs to prove himself more, so that is what he's doing. Earning their "trust". He doesn't care if this place ends up a smoking crater.


My comments are my opinion. Also, James is not one who's reputation one could tarnish since it is pretty bad at this point. I am not trying to "earn" anyone's trust, just discussing a bizarre situation. I hardly think my comments out of well over 1000 about this topic will cause this place to be a "smoking crater".

Stop trolling. 

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I'm not trolling, there's more evidence for what I said than what you said.
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I'm not trolling, there's more evidence for what I said than what you said.


Everything I said is speculative, since there is no evidence. I don't want to be a "trusted" seller anymore, per se, because I am not planning to sell, just trade a few air layers here and there. The few people who have traded with me have given good feedback.

Edit: I last asked about the trusted seller list, feels like over a month ago, super flattering that you remembered and thought of me ;)

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The few people who have traded with me have given good feedback.


My speculation is that you still want to sell, self advertising and all ;)

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 I'm also wondering why, when so many people are desperate for news on this topic, no one else has mentioned this email.


It is a legit message from James, the person who posted it has a very different opinion than Mr. Babylon though. If things had gone differently (not so many people with conflicts of interest calling foul before the first pitch), well then maybe they would not have believed in him... time for some people to realize they are either hurting an honest guy, or helping a dishonest one by creating confusion/spreading rumors. Either way, forums have proven to not be the authority on who to trust.

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I think the "chore" thing may be a generational or regional thing.  The definition certainly fits the tasks required to run a farm.  "Chores" certainly had a negative connotation in city environments (where I grew up), where "chores" were what you had to do when you weren't "playing."  But on a farm (where I worked several summers), "chores" were all there were.  No time for fun :)
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I do not buy future products but thought about it so I have followed and commented on this sad situation. I do think the email is from him. The email reads like someone looking for excuses. The one that stands out to me is his PP account. I do not doubt his PP account was shut down. I also have no doubt is was NOT closed "because he did not answer emails" but over fraud complaints. He continues to think people are stupid and wants them to believe that PP is the only way he can refund the money....BS!  
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I think the "chore" thing may be a generational or regional thing.  The definition certainly fits the tasks required to run a farm.  "Chores" certainly had a negative connotation in city environments (where I grew up), where "chores" were what you had to do when you weren't "playing."  But on a farm (where I worked several summers), "chores" were all there were.  No time for fun :)


Actually on our dairy and hog farm chores were the things you did every day at a set time. Work was what you did the rest of the time. I had chores before and after school from the age of 8. We got off from 10am to 4pm on Sunday. But milked cows twice a day everyday. I was probably working 30 hrs a week during school from the age of 10 until college. In summer 60 hrs a week.

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I also have no doubt is was NOT closed "because he did not answer emails" but over fraud complaints.


He gave a plausible story, one that is made more credible because people tried to influence others to file complaints and have his account shut down. The poor guy had a broken toe and had the rug pulled out from under him, I don't know if it is all true, part true, or totally fake any more than anyone else yet (spare me the confidence) but I can look at this situation and see people all read it differently. There doesn't seem to be anything left other than controlling territory because the truth is buried in drama.

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How is he still taking orders if his PP account is closed? Just curious. I don't do the PP thing much.
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Ridiculous  
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It sounds exactly like a message I got from him before when I PMed him asking if he had read my emails from several weeks before.

"No, I hadn't seen them yet. There are still around 250 emails ahead of yours, so it would have been quite a while before I would have worked my way through to them.  I've had to work through around 3,000 emails so far."

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My speculation is that you still want to sell, self advertising and all ;)


Wow, just wow, Indiana banana you are way out of line to attack Anton in that manor.

If you have so much confidence in James, why dont you make an order now?

I just put an Emerald Strawberry off his website in my shopping cart, I was taken to the paypal checkout payment system...would it do that if his account was locked? Obviously I stoped at that stage. (This Is a real question, but it does appear to me that his account is NOT locked).








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Ridiculous  


AMEN

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Let's cut through the speculation and growing incivility here, shall we?  Let's stick to cold hard facts.  I just called Paypal and asked the rep if the Paypal account linked to the seller was frozen, as James seemed to have claimed in the pasted email above.  The Paypal rep looked at James' account and it was NOT frozen and was in fact active.  Without me saying anything about how many people have been affected here, she also commented that I am not the only one who has had similar complaints filed against James.  

So, if James is now telling people that he can't give refunds because his account's frozen...





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That was very helpful of you Jennifer. I'd let the person who got the message know what you found.
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I filed with  consumerfinance.gov  the Government watchdog on Credit and monetary services...it took a while but....I GOT MY MONEY BACK! UPDATE:tonight I could not start the check out proccess with paypal on figcuttings.com, it appears Pay Pal has finnaly taken action.

Here is paypal's response to my complaint with consumerfinance.gov :




Description of Relief PayPal issued a $50.00 credit to you on July 21, 2017, which was applied to your PayPal account balance. Response On April 28, 2008, you created a PayPal account ("Account") at which time you agreed to PayPal's user agreement ("User Agreement"). On January 10, 2016, you sent a $50.00 payment from your Account to the seller (“Seller”). On June 21, 2017, you initiated a PayPal buyer complaint case stating you had not received your purchase. At that time, the Seller was sent notifications via email and the Resolution Center advising them you had disputed this payment and asking for them to work directly with you toward a resolution. The complaint was closed without a refund, as the purchase was not eligible for PayPal's Purchase Protection. Pursuant to the Sending Money & Buying section of the User Agreement, you must open a dispute within 180 days of the date the payment was sent. Your buyer complaint was initiated after the deadline; therefore was ineligible for this protection. More information on this process can be found via PayPal's online Help Center articles. For your convenience, we have included copies with this response. Further, I can assure you that PayPal tracks all buyer complaints and uses the complete data provided by such documentation to make administrative determinations about a seller’s suitability for the service, or to determine if we have concerns of wrongdoing on their part. If we are able to determine a pattern of fraud, PayPal will move administratively to deal with such accounts. Your Seller was escalated to our review team. Due to privacy policy restrictions, I cannot disclose what actions, if any, we took against them. However, I can assure you PayPal will not tolerate fraud or abuse of our customers or policies. Explanation of Closure PayPal's actions in this matter were taken in good faith and within the terms set forth in the User Agreement and online Help Center articles when closing the dispute without refund. PayPal considers this matter resolved as a credit for $50.00 has been applied to your Account; and your Seller has been escalated for further review. We offer our sincerest apologies for any difficulties you may have encountered while using our services. Please feel free to contact me should you have any questions or concerns, or if I can be of further assistance to you.

MONETARY RELIEF AMOUNT
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Seems like I've been scammed too! I will be filling a complaint with consumer finance company in hopes of getting my money back too. I called PayPal and they gave me the same response regarding their policy of "180 days". It look like you can still purchase from his website and it is still active. How can this be? Hasn't he stolen enough of peoples hard earned money? Has anyone had success in filling a complaint by email to PayPal?
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Maybe a class action suit against PayPal is in order.
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I hope he did actually break his foot and I hope all his plants die. If he can't keep up with the old orders than he shouldn't be taking new ones. I hope someone breaks his other foot
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Maybe a class action suit against PayPal is in order.


I think that is what PP is trying to aviod when they refunded me. Bob Kelly and others told them long ago this was a scam, they lied to him when they said they shut down payments to webisles / figcutting.com / James W. Sperman...they are culpable IMHO.

Besides, in class action, the lawyers make out big, the claiments get a pitance.

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According to the new and original provisions of PayPal (and ebay's) user agreement, there is a section that as a user, you state that you will indemnify (hold harmless) PayPal in any class action law suite. Additionally, you DO agree to arbitration to resolve any legal complaint.

In the nature of this complaint, being an individual, the damages you could hold are not that significant to overcome the cost of arbitration. Moreover, to hold PayPal liable, the oweness is on the plaintiff to prove negligence. Arbitration is a VERY expensive process which usually does not award legal fees.

In 2012, the second circuit court overruled provisions of this type, explaining users cannot be held accountable to these provisions being too broad, providing a large, ambiguous indemnification against pretty much everything.

The very next year, in 2013, the Supreme Court took on this case and overruled the second circuit court, enforcing the class action and arbitration provision.

Long story short, no class action lawsuit against PayPal. If you're made out of money, hire a lawyer to file an injunction against PayPal and hope a judge agrees to file a motion requiring PayPal to suspend the users account.

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@arachyd - Personally I think a class action lawsuit against eBay is in order way before any such action against payPal.... Think about the scammers that ebay has been advised about over the last several years and yet they refuse to do anything about it. Why? becasue they make money off of scammers and they don't want to kill the goose the lays all those golden eggs. I frankly do not see a similar situation that can be described against PPay... Perhaps they should bar him from using their pay service; I do not see that their not doing so makes them accessories after the fact.... the same cannot be said for eBay....
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Not sure what happened to my post, but just like 5 days ago, I tried to check out with figcuttings.com via PayPal and was given this message:

"Things don't appear to be working at the moment. Please try again later."

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I shamefully admit, I was sold on the "Intention" of this project. Him stating that he breeds Tilapia to support the need of sick father suffering from Liver failure and the warmth being the bi-product of starting the Fig propagation project would help pay the bills for the winter, etc.

It's a sad fact that we all been taken here. The money  and greed took over poor guy's logic and now, I mean, look at us.

There's nothing we can do here, nothing worth the money we lost over trusting a fellow fig grower who started with a very heartwarming cause.

there's one thing we can do though: we can invest a bit more and assign someone with a diplomatic state of mind and with help of a Sheriff Department of his town or county and send them over to Jame's address just to see if he's OK. Collect reasons why he done what he done and open a case against him.
 I would say $50 each person who placed an order would provide more than we need to accomplish this.



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Not me. For $50 bucks I know where I can get 7 trees! 😋
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Not me. For $50 bucks I know where I can get 7 trees! 😋


Thank you! LMAO! A little humor in a bad situation is healthy!
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It is not working if u order trees but it is still taking order for "cuttings"...I tried it a few seconds ago and it still works.
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Blasted paypal...james cut a deal with them...birds of a feather indeed.

Thanks for the update courtney.


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Is James saying he is in High School??

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Well, that explains it then. He's just really busy in his senior year of HS. Maybe he had to go to summer classes because he wasn't doing well last year with being so busy with the business and all.
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Perhaps he had trouble finishing his homework on account of that broken toe. 
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I filed a complaint with consumerfinance.gov.  I did not get any money back, unlike the other who posted that they received $50 back.  However, the verbiage was otherwise quite similar.

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On May 11, 2017, you initiated PayPal Buyer Complaint cases for each of the aforementioned payments, stating you had not received your purchases. On that same day, the complaints were closed without a refund because the payments were sent more than 180 days before you notified PayPal of a problem; and, as a result, were no longer eligible for PayPal’s Purchase Protection. Pursuant to the Sending Money & Buying section of the User Agreement, you must open a dispute within 180 days of the date the payment was sent. More information on this process can be found via PayPal's online Help Center articles. For your convenience, we have included copies with our response. While PayPal is unable to offer Purchase Protection coverage for your purchases, I can assure you that we track all buyer complaints and use the complete data provided by such documentation to make administrative determinations about a seller’s stability for service, or to determine if we have concerns of wrongdoing on their part. If we are able to determine a pattern of fraud, PayPal moves administratively to deal with such accounts. While PayPal’s Privacy Policy prevents us from sharing what specific actions we may take against a seller, we can assure you PayPal will not tolerate fraud or abuse of our customers or policies. Explanation of Closure PayPal acted in good faith and accordance with the terms set forth in the User Agreement and online Help Center articles when closing your cases without issuing a refund. Accordingly, we are denying your request for reimbursement. In hopes of helping you avoid these issues in the future, we have included reference materials discussing eligibility requirements for our Purchase Protection program. We offer our sincerest apologies for any difficulties you may have encountered while using our services. Please feel free to contact me should you have any questions or concerns, or if I can be of further assistance to you.

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Paypal is aiding fraud, it is still possible to buy cuttings you will never get from James via PAYPAL...
did you accuse them directly of fraud? They know figcuttings.com is a SCAM, yet the continue sales (cuttings) with a verified scammer.

And if you did, maybe they are doubling down on commiting fraud...in some sates the Attorney general's office can help...

I live in Florida, the AG is useless to cosumers, but in minnesota (where I lived for a while), the AG was very helpful once...

Dan, I see you are in CA, so here is a link

https://oag.ca.gov/contact/consumer-complaint-against-business-or-company


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I accused them of plenty. Ha ha. Fraud, collusion, profiting from fraud.  All of which is true, at this point.
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Well, he sent another email full of empty promises and posted a couple of videos. I can't even watch the damn boring things. I'm tired of seeing little trees that should have been shipped out last year. I'm tired of seeing 'his' trees. I want mine. I don't want another email unless it's a shipping notification.
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I haven't received any emails. Put my order in Dec. 2015
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i had asked several months ago if he was taking new orders and he responded last night.  He sent a general email to let me know that he is not taking on new orders.  He said he is working on fulfilling the current orders that he has on file.  So, hang on tight, everyone!  

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I accused them of plenty. Ha ha. Fraud, collusion, profiting from fraud.  All of which is true, at this point.


Well, I am sorry it did not work out...I was hoping to help others in the same situation. If you try the AG in California, let us know how it goes..

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For anyone who's interested I received this email from James last night:

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Hi,

We are behind on fig tree orders and will not be taking any more until all current orders have shipped.  I am very sorry that it is taking so long to grow and ship these orders.

 
Wood production is going well, and it looks like we'll have an abundance of fig cuttings this fall to fill all current cuttings orders with a lot of extras.  Pruning will begin in October, and cuttings orders are expected to ship out starting around November 1st.
 
Here are two videos we just uploaded to YouTube to give you a tour of part of our outdoor fig orchard:


 
REFUNDS
If you have requested a refund and have not yet received it, please send a new email request to greenfingardens@gmail.com with REFUND in the subject, and please include your name, current mailing address, and refund amount.  We will enter your info into a special spreadsheet so that your refund request won't fall through the cracks, and will reply to you to let you know that your request was processed and that you will receive your refund asap.  We are very sorry for not yet replying to any previously sent request that was buried in our inbox!
 

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