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I was find this saling on ebay anybody know 2 of this saler? Could you please let me know!! I was find this when i was search on google then i could open it , sorry if my english not good!

13 figger and ebatihk are the same person selling under two accounts. This person is selling Pink Jerusalem, Byrada and syrian long.
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I bought martinenca rimada from them too
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I hope they are different people.
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He told me he gets all his cuttings from Bass, and are friends, haven't asked Bass if they are.
But funny how Bass sell his MR for almost 200.00 and he sells his with a buy it now or best offer of 60.00.
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Originally Posted by Willofig
He told me he gets all his cuttings from Bass, and are friends, haven't asked Bass if they are. But funny how Bass sell his MR for almost 200.00 and he sells his with a buy it now or best offer of 60.00.


Bass sets his price for this variety at 99 cents. If it finishes at almost $200 it is the bidders not Bass.
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I won an ebay bid on
 
4 Maltese Beauty Fig Cuttings from 13figger. Cuttings shipped fast and they look nice. Prices for Maltese Beauty must be dropping.
I must add I did have my doubts, I got the cuttings for 21.50 didn't loose too much, but we will see what type of fig it turns out to be if they make it.
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I sent him a low ball offer on Maltese Beauty thinking he wouldn't take it.well, he did and I paid him. I don't hardly see this variety for sale so i took a chance. It is what it is lol
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They are scammers.  Stay away.  The only thing they got from Bass is some examples of good variety names and, for a brief period, some stolen photos.
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Harvey, do you have any info as to why they're scammers? Is it one person or multiple? Is anything they're selling real?
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I hope they are not because I just spent over 250 dollars buying some cuttings from them !!!
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Do you guys think they are using a cheap fig variety and selling it under a different names ?
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I am not at liberty to give details.  Stay away from bother sellers in the subject of this thread.
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Harvey I don't know why i even bothered shooting him an offer. I had too many vodka tonics lol. Sometimes I give someone the benefit of the doubt and get burned. Oh well lesson learned i guess i will find out in a few years if this is truly Maltese Beauty.
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I don't know but one of the problems with cuttings is you don't know what you got until it is too late.  The sellers with good reputations have built them over years.  They get top dollar because people trust them.  I think that even non-forum members use this web site to see who the members trust.  I keep records on all my figs and each tag has not only name but original source.  I have birthday money that I plan on buying one special fig with and you can bet it will be with someone I trust.
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Sometime it sucks buying a mutt at a purebred price,
but sometimes mutts are you best??
Either way like the old saying "buyer beware".
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I guess I will just wait and see and I hope everything will be ok !
Otherwise there's GOD.
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Baghdad. He knows,that people are upset and says if anyone wants a refund he will do it know problem. He also said bass messaged him about people talking about him. So bass is giving him his,inventory
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I'm not mad or upset at him now but hopping everything will be OK later on this summer !!
I'll try to contact Bass tomorrow and see what's going on.
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Let me,know
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I'll for sure.

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He says,he,sells locally but was getting rid of his extra cutting before he leaves on his tripp
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Posted Reply with quote  #22 
He told me he's going to Syria soon too !
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Yes he is. Going to bring some different stuff back
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Tomorrow we will see how this all unfolds lol
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Baghdad. He knows,that people are upset and says if anyone wants a refund he will do it know problem. He also said bass messaged him about people talking about him.  CORRECT, after I told Bass about post #5.  So bass is giving him his,inventory 100% WRONG!
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Posted Reply with quote  #26 
Well I'm screwed 13 figger and ebatihk are the same. The varieties, font size and wording is all the same. Lesson learned
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This is description from ebatihk... barada fig cuttings great fig message me for questions.

And this from 13 figger.Jolly tiger fig cuttings, each cutting has healthy buds. Message me with any questions that you have. these were written in sane font size the language in all the listings for both of then is the same.
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Just finalized it. Both sellers have fig cutting pictures on the same piece of cardboard.
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HARVY. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING about. Were did he get pink Jerusalem. You think he picked it out his butt. Get your facts straight before you start fig drama. Some people just dont know when to stop and say they were wrong! !!
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Richard, you are wrong.  He doesn't have any of the varieties he claims to be selling.  Period.  I suggest you buy 5 different varieties and grow them side by side and report back when they are all fruiting.
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I have no interest in this thread, it has spiraled out of control. 

My questions are simple. 

Do you know the seller? 
Are you the seller?
If the answers to the above questions are no, then why would anyone defend a stranger on the internet so fearsly?
Does any know for a fact, have been there in person and identified the cultivars in questions?
Why would we assume this seller is not lieing (there is a lot of liers out there)?
Why not believe a long time very respected forum member whom it's only trying to help people not get taken? 

Ebay sellers are constantly proven to be frauds, then change their names and start over.   Did you know they buy their own auctions so they can write reviews about themselves?  They bid on their own actions to run the price up.

The whole thing seems like holcomb to me, I would rather pay more and get my (whatever) from a known repitable source. 

I do hope for everyone's sake that the items are legit, but sadly I rather doubt they are.

I will not be back on this thread so don't bother responding to me, I posted this only for people contemplate. 
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I just want to thank Harvey, Scott (even though he will not be back in this thread), and other forum members that have helped me be more aware of how to better determine a legit eBay seller versus a scammer.  I know that it will never be a 100% sure thing, but I do feel I am more educated now.
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Dont think people should be accused when the dont know 100 % sure that someone a lier thats all. Have have address from were it was mailed and tracked it from were it was mailed. Very very close to bass's house. Thats what makes me believe this man. Why would bass sit and let someone use his names to sell and not warn anyone. The addres is righ down from trees of joy.
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Richard, I would encourage you to listen to Harvey. He has been this for a lot longer than most people on the forum, myself included. Just be cautious, there are many people out there looking to make a quick buck. There is a reason Bass's cuttings are selling for so much more: his provenence is trusted.
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After getting too many questions being asked if I was the seller or if I'm dealing with the seller of sellers maybe I should jump in.
I've been collecting, evaluating and photographing figs for many years and selling on eBay and via my website for the past 10-12 years and have customers coming back year after year and run reputable nursery.
I am not that seller and did not give him any of my varieties. I am not sure what he has.
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Posted Reply with quote  #36 
Bass got the final word....
Harvey was right...
It took me years(2) to figure out that a cheap Ronde de Bordeaux from ebay turns out to be a yellow fig and a Panache fig turns out to be a black fig....
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Brutal,why anyone would chase these exotic's on ebay while
so much is available for practically free here is beyond me.
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Brutal,why anyone would chase these exotic's on ebay while
so much is available for practically free here is beyond me.


2 words:  Fig Fever


Seriously, though some 'exotics' are not really available here, why would new growers feel they need those?  Realistically, especially for us relative newcomers, there is not a need for the latest and greatest.  I was able to get for relatively little money about 30 different cutting varieties last year all through this forum, and have 23 so far to root this year (more than I was intending and Jon's offer has not come out yet!).  There have been so many offers for cuttings in the last few months made by the generous fig growers here!
 
There will be time in the future for me to think about the CdDs, Maltese varieties and Rimadas, etc, after I get accomplished at rooting these things.

I would never buy on eBay without having some level of trust for the seller, after spending time on this forum and realizing the scam artists out there.
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Well thanks guys for the heads up.....when something is to good to be true, it usually is
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He responded..
Dear valarie1582,

Yes they were collected from a local grower.

On 1/6/15, 12:05 AM, valarie1582 wrote:

valarie1582 has sent a question about item #261721769434, that ended on Jan-04-15 23:55:07 PST - Maltese Beauty Fig Cutting

Can you please tell me the source of your maltese beauty? Can you send me a picture of the tree and fruit?

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Sorry HARVEY. I AM APOLOGIZING FOR NOT BELIEVING YOUR GOOD WORD. I BELIEVED THESE TWO BOYS BECAUSE THEY TOLD ME THERE ARE FAMILY WITH BASS. THATS ALL I WILL SAY ABOUT THEM and bass. Enough damage has been done. I am truly sorry
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No problem, Richard.  Let's move on and let's be careful hunting out there.
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Posted Reply with quote  #43 
Yes after putting all puzzle pieces together now we got the clear picture ! THEY ARE SCAMMERS !!!!!!!
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I feel really broken over defending these two kids. Sorry for being a ass. Thanks. I will learn from this. I am moving forward and enjoying this forum again.
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I usually treat and label any cuttings bought or received from an non-established and reputable source as unknowns.
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1-877-325-9239 this is ebays number. I opened a claim and i suggest you all do too. This is fraud.
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He refunded me. No explanations
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I also have been refunded also.




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Do you guys think they are scammers ?
And if so , why they refunded some of their customers ? !!
I'm so confused here , but I haven't reported to ebay yet.

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If a buyer files a claim with eBay, the seller has two options:
1. Refund the purchase and the case is closed.
2. Let eBay review the facts and eBay will decide the merits of the claim.  If eBay agrees with the buyer, they will withdraw the funds from the seller's PayPal account or credit card or bank account linked to the seller's account and refund the purchase.  This can take 30 days.

Option 1 gets the claim settled fastest.  The seller's eBay account is likely to be closed if there are several outstanding claims at the same time.
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