A question in the subject.
Yes/no?

Igor,

The most known and correct names (synonyms) are:  (there may be others..)

Rouge de Bordeaux, Hirta du Japon, Pastellière or Pastillière

Here a few links...

http://www.fig-baud.com/cataloguefiguiers/catpastiliere.html
http://www.roseraie-guerinais.com/212-pastiliere.html
http://vincentbey.perso.neuf.fr/Pastilliere.html
http://a142.idata.over-blog.com/0/51/43/56/Aout2008/Delicfigue8vari-t-s.jpg
http://www.figuiers.com/plants-de-figuiers.html


Francisco
Portugal

Thank you, Francisco!
Very helpful.

Hi Greenfig,
The sale name of Pastiliere over here is "Rouge de Bordeaux" .
You won't find a fig named "Pastiliere" in the nurseries here  - except in southern France perhaps - So yes, Pastiliere and "Rouge de Bordeaux" are the same.
Rouge means Red, so likely someone translated "Rouge de Bordeaux" to "Red de Bordeaux" .

The name "Rouge de Bordeaux" creates some confusion here as another well sold fig strain is "Ronde de Bordeaux".
Imagine a tag washed from rain, sun exposed and with some dirt over it, and if you're quick, you can easily buy one for the other .

My personal question, then, always was: ... Which one is the good and which one is the bad ?
It seems that people would more likely look for "Rouge de Bordeaux" as the tree would be smaller in final size ...
Now I bought a "Rouge de Bordeaux" ... And she dropped 4 of her 6 figs ... But ok, I bought the tree this April so got to be patient ! and let her settle and start sky rocketing .

Thanks, jdsfrance.
I think both of them are fine varieties and you cannot go wrong with any except if you already have one and trying to get another.

I have the wasp and that could be a reason that my Pastilliere plants never dropped a fig. They were very vigorous growers last summer.
One still has 3 figs getting ripe right now (the temp is around +22-27C everyday).

I hope to taste a Ronde next season and compare both.

The jury is still out on my Rouge de Bordeaux. This year both dropped their figs but both are young (1 and 3 years).
My 3 Ronde de Bordeaux's are excellent trees that produce excellent figs. They are by far my favorite dark fig. They are cold hardy, early to ripen and then ripen for at least 2 months. I will add two more (I have 3 - 4,4 and 3 years old) as currently I think this variety is the best "All Round" fig I'm growing (I had just over 100 varieties produce ripe figs this year - didn't count the young ones with a fig or two.)
I am very excited about the Rouge de Bordeaux and hope it does well here in VA z7.

Hirta du Japon?  Would this then be Rouge de Bordeaux growing in Japan? 

A bit of history behind Pastillière ....aka Rouge de Bordeaux...aka Hirta du Japon...

http://www.planetfig.com/cultivars/fcveng8586.html


Francisco
Portugal

Francisco,
thanks for that link on this figs interesting history! 
"great cold resistance and the abundant and early main crop" 
This is my kind of fig..LOL

Pino,

OK , Thanks. Not yet 100% sure but it looks like that its ancestors are still around...

being a very early fig almost overlapping with the brebas (second week of July)
very tasty but,  much more berry than figgy
redish peduncle
Dark hairy skin with a nice bluish hue and with conspicuous meridian cracks when fully ripe
Not much 'brixy', think it's our least sweet fig
Inconstancy on its shape contours as well as pulp colors from deep orange to strawberry red.
In this climate (equivalent to zone 11) no fig dropping

call it -Preto temporão- or  -Early Black-

Francisco
Portugal

Was anxiously expecting a ripe fig from a Raintree Pastilliere.
Checked the plant, saw 2 beautiful figs, decided to take photo and went inside to grab a camera.

5 min later found this sorry picture :(
I hate those birds! I kept the plant protected from the squirrels and they just sneaked in and did the damage, terrible!
Oh, well, I still have the second one.

 

Sorry for that Igor,...That's the price for growing great figs!
They seem  to understand where the time and the figs are ripe for a kill!

Francisco
Portugal

Yeap!
With a 5-min precision! I think it is a record for me :(

Igor, are you positive they were caprified? I have 3 good size Raintree Pastilliere. They look good, D--- birds!

I can test the seeds of the second fig from the photo when I collect it.

So far, every my fig I tried had the heavy seeds that stayed on the bottom of the cup.
This also explains a high germination success rate of the seeds (check the "want seeds?" thread).

Wayne,

Here is the second fig from the photo, ripe!
I tried a few seeds without wasting too much meat and yes, most of them sank.

The fig tasted very nice, soft, sweet with some acidity, not much crunch. The skin was quite thin.
I think it could still be much better if collected in August, in the prime heat.
I hope to try some next year.

Thanks Igor, I hope so too. They look so good.