This is why i watermark my pictures.

This morning i was looking thru ebay and came across hirtsgardens listing.
Now everybody knows i have a interest in Black Ischia/Ischia Black fig plant and or scion. So i have done a lot of looking at pictures . A Real Real Lot.

I found this on Ebay

When one shows a picture of there fig its quite unique such as dents, scratches ,cracks, bug bites etc etc.

Not only Jon's photo was stolen but one of mine too from our UCD trip in 2008:

http://www.susanvanderveen.com/FIGS/Wolfskill_2008/Wolfskill_2008%20013.jpg

I thought the BI was a Greek fig from the island if Ischia? Are they making up the "Blue" name?

Sue

Hi Sue,
i thought that orchard photo looked familar i just could not place it though.
Im just shaking my head even more now and makes me wonder about this ebayers other listings.

ciao Sue, the name was mispelled obviously on the ebay listing from Hirts, Ischia is a wonderful Island in the province of Napoli, Campania, Italy.  It is in the bay of Naples a little off the coast of the big city Napoli, beautiful place wonderful food. I don't know of any Ischia in Greece, if there is then thats interesting to learn and find out there was more than one, Only know the Italian island..  Ciao Happy gardening.

Thanks Maggie. Don't know why I thought it was from Greece...too many figs to keep up with! ;-)
Sue

Tell me about it Sue, thats why I a mark all the regions, countries, Islands ect with each fig variety so I don't get confused and I get so many requests from customers who want figs only from certain regions or places, sometimes I can help, sometimes I can't ,the ones I can't I send to my own personal fig friends who sale and can help them. so it can get very very busy at times, and I know you are as well with the impressive collection you have, I get upset with these people stealing the photo's , I must start watermarking or at least like I have started to put the paper behind it in my own writing which I Have noticed Jose and Leone do, with the farm or business name on as well, I will work on this today, thanks for the heads up.  Ciao

There was a greek colony on the Bank of The Black see,called Histria,where today Istria comune,is,locatedin South
 eastern Romania.
In That comune around the ruines,of the ancient greek colony,it is the only place in Romania that fig trees,grows wild,possible for more than 2000 years.
Also there is a peninsula between Northeast Italy,and former Yugoslavia,possible Croatia today,thaT IS CALLED iSTRIA,AND IS ALSO A PLACE WHERE FIG TREES GROW VERY WELL.
What is a Jock,is the fact that this seller,show a Ischia fig that is Amber inside totally amber,and that does not exist.
All Ischia fig,white, green,brown and black,or blue,are deep red inside!

Yes, Herman, thanks for the info of Romania, What then is this fig  called?, is it Ischia or Istria? completely different places, I have seen the Ischia spelling many times in the fig world? Is this correct? what is the actual name of this particular fig?, as I do not have it to know much about it, from which place is this name represented of.  Do you think that maybe these pictures were say doctored up at all????? maybe to make it look more blue? It looks like how sometimes people change the tint or something to say show FMV better in different tints and colors. 

Ciao Maggie,
what they may have donr to make it look more blue than on Jons site was copy and paste to hardrive and open program called Photoshop and you can change color of fig to any color available in that program.

See these things make me mad and i bust them out if and when i see them .
When i take picture of a fig i put on plate and move into and out of sun to try and capture how i see on tree and or with my eyes to present in a thread.
Some folks if they do not have permission take short cuts and steal pictures i call it stealing.

Maggie:This fig is Ischia Black and it was imported by an English Nursery man,from the Island of Ischia,wich is located where you say is located ,next to Napoli.
I was writing about Histria as to not Be confused to Ischia because they are 2 different p-laces,800 miles one from the other.
Ischia Black,(and all other Ischias), is an Italian,and not a greek fig,period

Ciao Martin, It is stealing!, what a good eye you have you must have studied these sites very very good. 
Ciao Herman, thanks I was wondering what you meant with the histories of the other places, I see now, but I wanted to know. Ask and you get an answer yes? These people have misleaded public by changeing a couple letters to make their own name and changed the color, Unbelievable fraud, I don't like that at all. I must say, I have ordered seeds from these people, some just for regular gardening a few years back and I can honestly say  that not one of the seeds ever grew for me ever. I never ordered from them again, after second time I ordered Clematis seed and they didn't take either, I was a little upset but thought maybe they were damaged or something, but didn't want to spend any more money, now hirt is doctoring names and pictures to sell. That is very ashame.

The first pix must be a TyTy pix. The last pix looks like a tree I saw on Ebay recently, maybe one of Herman's.

You can use the "Report item" next to the flag to report the fraudulent item. The interior pix is definitely not of the fig being sold. Any one can do this.

I think  the pix is from Gene Hosey Site,I know I seen it somewhere.

John  your picture is stolen  

this is your picture of Black Ischia off YOUR website 5th row from bottom 3rd picture over in that row.
 Exact picture as posted on ebay.
His is the bluer fig and all he did was lighten or change the color.


Look at the Markings on Both Figs exactly the same.



Click thumbnail to enlarge

Reminds me of the Blue Jack by Tyty.

Ciao Martin, is exactly the same picture, the one from Ebay and the one from Jon.  Wow.

Ciao Bass, yes, your gentlemen  is correct with the pronunciation of the Island.
prounounced ee ski ah. but faster. Ciao

This listing has ended!
...but has been relisted with the SAME images under 290471155061. GRRRRR....

Sue

EDIT: Actually they just edited the listing and removed mine and Jon's images...

For anyone having this issue, Google "Ebay" and "Vero" and you will find the info for having listings removed which contain illegal use of intellectual property.

Interesting that this seller did not have any e-mail contact in their listing.

The interior pix was of some other fig, so even without the issue of using intellectual property of other people, it is also fraud because it mis-represents what the seller is selling. "Fraud" is usually a word that gets people's attention, whether it is the seller, or Ebay, or anyone else. Most seller who have used other people pix, etc and not concerned with misrepresenting their product, but they are usually careful not to raise eyebrows with E-bay. I did have a problem with one seller a couple years ago, and after objecting to half a dozen listings, the seller was suspended.

Good Sue and Jon although im sure many others are missed and not just with figs at least one less now and hopefully person learned not to do it again.

There also selling on Amazon.

and from Daves watchdog
Hirt's Greenhouse & Flowers has 194 reviews (84 negative, 86 positive and 24 neutral) at the Garden Watchdog.

Not good in my thoughts.

Reported their new listing to Ebay.

I emailed them at Customer Service 3 times and never got a response...it's at the very bottom of their listing.

Customer Service

Judging by my e-mail correspondence with them, they are a real piece of work. They may be the new TyTy.

They have blue Ischia relisted -  minus your (jon) and Sue's pictures the only ones i had mentioned specifically.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Blue-Ischia-Edible-Fig-Plant-Ficus-carica-Sweet-/110583141352?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19bf44d3e8

Minga whats a matter with this joint ?
Not 6 months ago i reported they used Jons picture of Ischia.

Now there listing in several places http://cgi.ebay.com/Blue-Ischia-Edible-Fig-Plant-Ficus-carica-Sweet_W0QQitemZ370491875316QQcategoryZ1512QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D370491858488%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7740961779392023129

Good catch. More fig confusion... They should have stole the photos from tyty nursery of their blue jack.