Rhymehong 

You don't know why I said that because Mai erased 2 threads that she started with close to 150 posts from many members . 
She erased those threads because there was information there pertaining to unscrupulous actions on her part , showing what she is really about .
And now she is pretending like nothing ever happened .
There are quite a few people on this forum that try to build up a good reputation by being helpful with their final goal being to profit at any cost .
But alas the threads have been erased because she doesn't want you to be informed .
You are also a recent member so welcome , but be careful who you trust , because when big money is involved watch out .

John

Mai's method of bag rooting and waking up cuttings has always worked for me.I have rooted some of my most treasured cuttings this way.Thank you Mai for sharing your method with us.

Grant

I have a little set of rules I try to use before I open my mouth or use my send button.  I ask myself "Is it true?"  "Is it necessary?"  AND  "Is it kind?"  My thanks to all the generous, tolerant, wise people that have shared their experiences for the benefit of others, including Mai and so many others.  Remember the heart of the figs and let there be peace in the fig forums, so there can be more peace in the world.  Have a blessed nite all.  

Someone once said, "he who is without sin, cast the first stone". If Mai wants to continue contributing to the forum in a positive, helpful way, I have nothing against it.

Ignorance is bliss i guess . She's counting on that .
I prefer to be informed .

John

What do you need to be informed in this thread ???? Who do you think you are to demand me to ask for your permission when i am giving away my time and sharing my knowledge to people ? If you want to destroy this thread because of your narrow mind, then you are doing a wrong thing to the public. My bagging method has drawn more than 3,600 viewers at ourfigs and almost 2000 viewers at this forum
Are you having some psycho problems ???

Your bagging technique is a very interesting thread, many members have been helped, especially the new members.

Jodi and Figgysid, I like your way of thinking. Mai's method has been a great help to me and I am personally grateful for her time and effort.  I can see that she did it with good intention and it took some time to put it all on here.  Thank you, Mai.

This bag method goes way back in  here on Figs4fun    http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/rooting-in-a-bag-new-style-4551910?trail=50&highlight=bag+rooting+techniques

Dave, i never saw what Jon did before. I did not get my bagging method idea from Jon or anybody else. I joined this forum sometime in September and i did not have time to read everything in this forum or other forum. I even do not know who Jon is and what his nick is ! Same thing with the other forum
My bagging method started since 2007 with plumeria, and at the time noone did the bag rooting.

So if Jon did come up with the idea of bag rooting, that is just an interesting coincidence, i guess

Thanks for bringing this up, Dave. I saw that post when I first came on this forum and I think Jon did a great job with showing photos of the bag-rooting method...as he does with everything on this forum.  It's an great forum.  And, I know also, that there are variations of the bag-rooting method.  I was trying to express that Mai's postings were helpful as she answered questions for everyone and posted often. Mai's post became an interactive learning experience that was interesting to see develop daily.  This was especially good for members like myself who are new at fig growing and have constant questions.  I learn something new from all posts  every time I'm on here!

Thank you Jodi, I like that.

Good rule to follow Jodi, everyone should follow your ways of words.

Thank you Meg, Blackfoot and Waynea.  For me my experience in this forum has only been one of generosity, wisdom and genuine human kindness.  I have said several times and it is still true, I am absolutely blown away by the old fashioned "neighbors talking over the garden wall" sharing here of these amazing and wise plants and their stories.  I think the figs are the wise ones, we are just trying to be as enlightened!  Here's to everyone having their best fig year ever in 2016!  Go figs. ;-)

I have developed this bag technique since 2007 , and I would like to share some of the pictures of my work

 
Hundreds of the plumeria cuttings were stacked on the shelves in garage during winter time








Hundreds of them were moved to the light in another area when the cuttings start to leaf out
In a 10 x 10 room, you can root more than 5,000 cuttings . You hang them in baskets , you stack them on step ladders. You put them on tables, the tallest first then the smaller on top of the bags (of the previous ones)  and so on ....  the smallest on the very top ---> layers of rooting bags . You also make layers on the floor too ....

  

































During winter time it will break your back to move all the 35, 45, 55 G pots to the shelter  . You can remove the trees out of their pots , trim the root ball as much as you can and BAG THEM UP ! No watering during winter time, just poke some holes for some air.
I can assure you that the trees will not die . Believe me . Figs are tough . The trees will rest in their bag about 45 days then start to produce new tiny roots . And so on ... until Spring arrives, then pot them up so they can thrive to their fullest force.  




   
If I am not an expert in bag rooting, how could I be able to answer all people's questions ????






















With this picture you can see how the soil is . What I mean by dry is this dry . NO WATER SHOULD BE ADDED TO THE BAG OF SOIL THAT YOU HAVE FRESHLY BOUGHT FROM THE STORE  


If you readers follow my instructions exactly as I have posted, your chance of success is very high. If you make any modification, you might not get the result as expected

Greetings To All,

I've been a member since 12/8/15, started to try and root cuttings on 11/5/15.  My first introduction into adding figs to my summer gardening and planting hobby began a few months earlier when I bought some locally grown figs from a fellow member I meet through craigslist.  Through our discussions and his guidance, I decided to enter into propagation in order to take away some cabin fever I develop over the winter months.  My first attempts at rooting were using the damp moss technique back in October.  I cut off about a half dozen cuttings from my potted figs (Brown Turkey, Black Mission and Bensonhurst - 2 each). Over the course of 2 to 3 weeks, they all rotted.  Starting on 11/5/15 I placed 15 cuttings in clear plastic cups using a 50/50 mixture of vermiculite and perlite.   Eight rooted and seven rotted.  I potted the eight but because they rooted so early, it is a huge question what if any have survived a basement confinement even though I tried to do all the right things with lights and all, but that's another story.  Starting 11/23/15 through 11/30/15 I cupped 50 more cuttings but this time used ProMix as a rooting medium.  This time I had 31 root and the rest rotted.  Again, I question how many will survived the winter basement confinement.

Both times I analyzed what went wrong and what changes needed to be made.  I talked some more to my local contact and a great piece of advice was to join this forum.  I have to say, this has been the biggest help in getting me get up to speed.  So I read the threads carefully to see what was tried, what did not work and what had good results.  After another month and getting through the holidays, I had gathered another 85 cuttings.  Most were low cost Ebay specials of mostly unknown varieties.  My goal was to figure out rooting techniques, not necessarily acquiring specific varieties and especially not anything rare.  Until my skill set at rooting gets better and by a lot, it would be foolish to waste money as a gamble.  Out of the 85, over 50 rooted and have been potted.   Most of them are flourishing strongly which was due to uncovering them from their storage containers for several hours each day.  The one thing I did this time was to un-cup any cutting that did not show roots in 2 weeks after cupping.  I cleaned the cuttings, inspected them and re cupped in new and less moist soil.  I think that helped a lot although the information I gained from inspecting gave me a huge insight to what was happening and to see if rotting was a big issue; which in a lot of cases, still was.  This was going to be my last cutting group for this winter but the failure rate just gnawed at me.  In this forum I finally came across Mai's article on the plastic bagging technique.  A lot of things I learned from my failures, posts on this forum and especially Mai's take on her rooting method made a light bulb go off in my head.

I believe the reason for so many failures and especially rotting failures came from three specific things: humidity too high, temperature too high and medium too wet; everything rot loves.  I believe Mai's method will address all those issues.  On 3/4/15 I took the 45 new cuttings a received over the prior month and did the plastic bag method.  This time I made the potting medium just damp enough that one could tell it was not dry.  Compared to how moist I had my medium before, I would have considered this medium dry, but it isn't.  Although I did place the bags in a covered container, this time NO heat mats were used.  Another thing I like about this method was the saving of space and potting medium.  I can easily place ALL 45 bags in one storage container whereas before, with cups, only 19 could be placed in the storage container.  The clear plastic cover has a small 2" computer fan mounted on top that runs every 4 hours for 15 minutes to keep air flowing and humidity down.  The DC voltage has been lowered to keep the rpm down.  I have a wireless temperature/humidity unit in the container so I can constantly monitor the numbers.  The humidity hovers between 50% to 80% depending on the fan running, whereas it was not uncommon to hit 100%, the temperature hangs round 68 to 73 degrees whereas it use to be around 80 to 85 degrees and the moisture in the form of dew or water droplets is virtually non-existent.  Roots and I mean strong roots have form on 2 cuttings so far.  This is far less than before but that was expected since I have reduced humidity and temperature.   This is fine as long as rotting is eliminated and besides, time is not a priority.  A day ago I took half the cuttings out of their bags (I know that is a no-no, but I had to see for myself) to inspect them.  The main thing I was checking for was rot development.  I am very happy to say there was NONE.  Nubs were forming but no roots so far.  I will now leave them alone.  I am writing this at this time because I have a very high degree of confidence that everything is going great and according to plan.  One final thing, no rooting hormone was used.  I have not seen any difference using it in my previous tests. 

This is my first post and I know I’m a newbee to this figs thing but I find them so fascinating.  Then I was treated to a right off the tree ripe fig and I was hooked.  WOW!  What a flavor treat, and I thought Fig Newtons were good.  Anyway, I, in no way, am making a point that this is what anyone should follow.  I post this as information only and anyone can take what he or she wants out of it or not.  I only hope that it may give some insight and helpfulness to someone.  I certainly want to thank everyone on this forum as I have found so much helpful information from everyone posting.  There is no doubt my skill set increased greatly because of all of you.  Thank you.     

Ron, Your observation regarding humidity, temperature and soil  moisture are spot on. Thanks for taking time and posting your experience and experiment precisely.

I would like to amend my post above to make sure I give credit where credit is due.

I stated above that a local contact was a great help in getting me started and in fact is the key person who introduced figs by way of a local craigslist ad for his figs.  I did not say who that person was because I did not know his handle on this forum and I could not say just Bill since there are several here.

I want it known that the reason I got into figs and the reason I'm on this forum is credited to BIGBADBILL.  I just received a message from Bill today, thus, I learned is forum name.  

My first figs were some of Bill's potted varieties.  He gave us a sample of a couple ripe figs which my wife and I never had before.  My thought of figs was in a Newton, and I like them.  But now they have real competition for my eating pleasures.  Bill spent quite a bit of time showing us his operation, explaining various varieties and flavor differences and propagation via rooting.  Loaded with that information, We went home and I surfed the web reading about figs, rooting and even growing in zone 6b.  I was always under the impression that figs came from the arid desert regions and especially NOT from areas that had SNOW.  I also learned that the chances were great that I would not have to wait many, many years to harvest figs as my long term projects are not more than a year or two out anymore.   So, as they say, the rest is history.

Again, Thanks Bill - BIGBADBILL.  I'm glad to be here and it made winter much more tolerable this year.   


 

Hello. This is my first post and I would like to thank you for that great informations you share with us. I started your method and would like to look at picture in attachment. What is your comment about leaves? Is that normal? Cuttings are 4 days old.
Thank you

This was really informative.thank you.

I tried this method for the first time this year.  I'm pretty impressed.  I'm trying different methods to find the most reliable methods that requires the least hassle and space.  This method doesn't have the least hassle, but it takes little space and seems very reliable.

The main change I made was to wrap the tops of the cuttings (the entire part outside of the bag) parafilm or buddy tape (used for grafting).  This allows the scion to retain its moisture without needing to use humidity chambers.  Also, there is no need to baby the newly established plant after rooting to help it adjust to lower humidity when potting it up.  

I put the cuttings in their bags in a spot in the house with decent, indirect light, and normal room temperature (60-70 F).  I'm sure they root more slowly at those temps than warmer ones, but they root nevertheless.

I found some handy bags that hold one cup of potting mix.  The are sold as "portion control snack bags" and are 3.5" x 6" inches.  (They were at my local Target.)

I used a bagged, soilless cactus mix (E.B. Stone) and added no water.  There was enough moisture in it straight out of the bag that condensation would form on the inside of the rooting bag, but it looked pretty dry.

In summary, wrap the top portion of the cutting in parafilm, fill a bag with potting mix, stick the cutting in, close the bag with a rubber band, and viola, you're done!  Wait till you see roots and leaves.