I guess that is a way to circumvent the banning decision.

Jon has a big job, and he is torn.  He gets messages from everyone asking him to choose sides.  He thought we were all civilized people, and he knows the drame here.  Instead of cutting the baby in half, and taking sides, he banned all the people involved in the drama.  How do I know this?  He emailed me.  Why did he email?  Because i begged him to come here and explain.  He is a busy man and doesn't do kindergarten.  Basically if you attack someone, or publish a PM, it's not a good thing.  But he did say in his email to me that he doesn't know how long the ban will last.  He is busy.  Don't ask!  I will not make his email public.  I just asked him to communicate, and he did with me.  Frustrated, absolutely!

Yep, accept Jon's decision and leave it alone. 

Does this mean I cannot access all previous topics started by these members?

Sometimes it's better to say nothing at all than to say one word that starts a conflagration. 

A wise person carefully weighs his/her words before they speak.

Life is much simpler when you learn that having an ego is really a detriment to living a peaceful life.

Peace, Love, and Harmony............The "hippies" really were on to something.


It took some thought to come up with any sort of positive contribution here. So thought I'd at least share a few lines of significant importance.

I really don't usually like to add to my 2 cents on topics like the drama referred to here. But really folks (referring to all crowing roosters that were involved), is it really worth the headache and stress just because you want to prove you're right & someone else is wrong? Did you ever consider allowing yourself to be wronged and then just let it go? Come on guys, believe me, life is too short..............

Now. Like Dennis said....How about those figs huh??  And.....read my tag line. 

I hope he's ok

Think its easy to be thin skinned or to get defensive but as my old Mom used to say, be polite to everyone, courtesy does not cost a dime and it adds to your own value when you are gracious to someone who is not. Anybody who has ever moderated a large group knows how hard a job it is with all the different personalities you have to deal with. Jon does not have it easy. Hope we can stick the the purpose of this forum and that is to share expertise or our lack of it for us newer members and that the loss contributors with so much info to share is only temporary.

It may be hard for some not to take sides when they feel strongly for one side or another, but perhaps not contributing one's opinion may be the best way to keep discord small and in the best interest of the forum as a whole. I have dealt with some of the people in this mess and for what it is worth, they all seem to be nice people so I hope they will be back with time and we can be gracious in welcoming them back.

One other thing we should consider as bystanders is that this is an international community and what may be acceptable to say in one culture may be viewed differently by another.  Just because we are all using English to communicate does not mean that the words we use will be interpreted the same way by all of us. This can lead to discord between members when no slight or offense was intended.

 Marianna do you think a "like" button like Facebook would satisfy the need to express an oppinion without letting lose with a tirade?

Nicely said Marianna.

It sure has been quiet with Aaron gone lol.

That's ridiculous

What's ridiculous jc_figs?

I never seen Willis do anything bad or ampersand/kelby

You have been here for 90 days and now stating something "That is ridiculous"?  You are a troll and need to go away!!!!  The lying, totally inappropriate PM's to members, using multiple names are far worse than what this tread is talking about and you should be the one banned.  I am shocked YOU have not been banned!

Ok look I actually have been looking on here and checking things out but I and am I the only one who realizes that u always say something to me sounds like ur a troll to me and since I actually started replying I haven't said anything bad so u need to chill smh ✌✌✌✌✌✌

I cannot stand anyone who lies, sends inappropriate PM's to members, and tries to deceive other members.  Very simple.  This forum is not a playground for anyone's enjoyment.  It is about sharing and learning with people you trust.  There are people here that offer unselfish recommendations based on experience from past success and failures.  It is people helping people.  Not people playing the games you seem to enjoy and build post with totally worthless information.  I will not respond any further but I am sure you will.  That's what immature people do.  Bye.

Hmmm but yet ur acting immature by saying bad stuff to me in the first place and actually I do try to help people but if that's how ya feel ok peace ✌✌✌✌✌✌✌✌✌

Dirtguy you make a pretty good point, even though the kid is not really harming anybody. He may not even be growing figs, nevertheless the forum is never going to be a perfect place. Is he required to make substantive contributions in order to participate in the forum? A group discussing fruit cultivation is probably not the best refuge for troubled youth, but we cannot censor everybody. Who knows if this person is really a kid, or what gender he/she is? How about those figs?

Well u can.n see I'm a young man by my profile pic

rafaelissimmo, I think you have a good point.  It may just be talk, I don't know.  I do think this forum could be a great refuge for a troubled youth if they will realize to be open, honest, listen, and never ever send inappropriate messages to anyone.  I am very very active in our local Boys and Girls Clubs and fully understand what you might be referring to.  It all starts from being honest with everyone and confessing if you haven't been.  Then this can become a wonderful refuge for anyone. 
I got some Unk Yellow Greek cutting from Aaron Delmanto (ADelmanto) that are growing like crazy.  I am trying to figure how to keep them inside until time to go out because they are growing so fast.  It is so enjoyable to see the progress of the cuttings during the cold winter.  Spring is still a ways away but getting closer every day.  Yea!

jc_figs, you still don't get it.  You have posted more that one profile, got busted, admitted to it, and still try to play some game instead of fessing up to the whole thing you have been doing.  "Come on Man".  There is not reason to believe your profile is true.  It is now after midnight where you are so why are you up posting on a forum if you are only 13 years old?