I found 35 gallon barrels on craigs list ,had to drive 1 hr to get them but really nice ,they were 5.00 each.they had no screw caps ,but I don't need them . will be potting some in 30 gal. size after cutting,and if cut in half would be 17.5 gal.(they are in monroville ,pa. he had a lot of them I bought 8.