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Bartering and remembering my uncle

Well this AM I traded (3) 1 gallon figs and a few empty egg cartons for 2 large feed sacks full of bunny poop, two cleaned and dressed frying rabbits and 18 chicken eggs. Most important was that the poop was delivered as my car is not one to put poo into and there is no PU truck currently. Plus I just disintegrated the tension pulley and my supercharger belt. oopps. 
This year I have a lot of 1 gallon trees to store so the bartering must be stepped up.
The nursing home where my uncle died recently also picked up the fig I gifted them. It was a pleached tree of Alma, Conadria and Green Ischia. It should grow into a beautiful tree and they found a perfect spot for it. 
I'll drop off the 2 figs I gifted to a local school for crumb snatching ankle biters before the game today.
So, that's seven down. Now, hmmm -does that mean I have space for more varieties?
Can I count the pleached tree as 3? What's harder to store - (3) 1 gallon trees or a 7 gallon pot with 3 trees in it?
I wish I had a red fig (other then the Red Lebanese) so I could pleach a red, white and blue tree for the next 4th of July. That would be a cool fig for in front of the museum. 
Thanx 4 stopping by.

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That bunny poop is garden gold:)  I go through many hundreds of pounds of it a year.  

Sorry Michael,

What is "Barter/Bartering?

WillisC,
I tried it on a few figs this year and half my peppers - all container grown. I also researched it's qualities and I'm pretty excited about it. I had a source for free poo but it was mixed w/ about half shavings (cedar). Can you supply info on how you use it? thx

Rafed , Bartering or barter is two people trade something to each other that they think is of equal value.

rafed,
It's just trading stuff without involving cash. It is more fun then using cash because it makes for more creative deals. Like, for instance we (I had to add as I forgot) ended up adding 18 eggs for me and then I added some empty egg cartons for them. It's just more fun.

Thanks Scott and Michael,

Now I know.

Wish I had a source for bunny poo. We have a zoo where one used to be able to get zoo poo, but that's across town. I do use lots of aged horse poo in the mix for my more mature plants. They seem to just love it. I saw that recommended in an old post here - a guy was standing next to his yearling figs and they were almost as tall as he was.

As to bartering, I need to do some of that locally too. There are extras I want to get rid of, some in gallons and some in 5 gallons. I'd be happy to get my pots back and perhaps a bag of planter mix in return.

Look for local Horse barns, Arenas.  Horse bedding is wood chips and horse biscuits, get it free here, This is Texas, lots of horses, lots of biscuits, LOL

Theres' also a lot of Bull Shtuff !!!  LOL

FOR THOSE OF YOU WITHOUT PICKUP TRUCKS (and even those of you who do)...

Many years ago, when I was still growing mostly in containers, I was trying to buy expanded shale in bulk.  I did not have access to a pick up truck.  I went to the store and bought some Roughneck totes by Rubbermaid.  The nursery did not have a problem dumping a bucket of the stuff into the lined up totes.  I put the lid on them, then put them in the trunk/back seat of the Honda I was driving at the time, then went on my merry way.  When I got home, I took the four totes and stuck them in the garage.  It was waiting there for me whenever I wanted to mix up some of my growing mix.

Four of the 18 gallon totes is about half a yard.  The Roughnecks are very durable... I still have those four plus a few others and just finished emptying them .  The very nice thing about it is how easy it is to move.  Even now, when I have access to pick up trucks, I line the bed with the totes.  It beats the pants out of shoveling crap (literally) out of the bed.

James, that's a good idea.  That and the bunny poo reference reminds me of last March when I drove to a horse farm in Virginia with our sole family car, Honda Accord, and several heavy duty black contractor bags.  I loaded the trunk with bags of manure and even put a couple in back seat surrounded by a tarp.  The smell only lingered for a couple hours and I never did tell my wife!

I don't have a truck, and do something similar. But instead of totes, I use 15 gallon black plastic nursery pots. When I go to pick something up (not from a nursery) such as free city mulch or horse manure, I take a pitchfork, and fill each one, and load them into the back of my small SUV. I can fit in 11 of them into the back. That's just under 1 yard.

When full, these are easy for me to move, one by one. And no extra shoveling. I can put one or even two on a dolly and move them to any part of the yard where they are needed.

If you watch Craig's list, or know a landscaper, you can get used ones for not that much money, or even free.

Composted horse/cattle manure is a great soil amendment, but be aware that in some areas manure can contain remnants of herbicides that can kill your trees.

If possible ask if the pastures and hay fields have been sprayed, particularly with an herbicide called Grazon. This herbicide kills all plants except grass, and has been known to kill garden plants and trees after composted manure applications.

Womack,
I want to know you better. Absolutely excellent of you to bring up this kind of advise. It is a constant battle to attempt to keep up with all the frickin chemicals they sneak into our ecosystem. This is one of the main reasons I 'm moving to bunny poo. I used to use horse and cattle poop composted and thought it was safe but it isn't for a number of reasons - if you are attempting to grow organically. Every time I turn around either my neighbors or the state is trying to spray stuff along the road I live on. So far I've been successful stopping them and have even "converted" a few neighbors along the way - but geeezzzz - no one seems to understand we can't just keep peeing in our own wells.
rant rant rant

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If I can source bunny stuff, I'll try it. I have used sheep dookie and transported it in tubs like James mentioned. Nasty business transporting dookie, but the stuff works!

Mgginva,
I know what you mean. I do use roundup on the rare occasion but feel like there are way to many chemicals working there way into our lives and bodies these days.

BLB,
Rabbit manure is one of the best to use If you have a source. It doesn't matter how much you use it won't burn your plants like other types.

James,
I like the tote idea. I have used 5 gallon buckets before. At the very least I will spread a tarp in the bed of my truck so that once I shovel the bulk out I can roll the rest out of the truck with the tarp. I do this mostly when I use a front end loader to fill the truck.

I am still able to empty the bed of a pick up truck with a shovel... but I don't want to.  LOL.

One thing to note with the totes and rocks (or rock like materials).  They get heavy.  Each tote of expanded shale weighed 150-175#.  Also, the extra weight tends to distort the totes and the lids don't fit so well.  If you are filling them with something heavy, fill 50-75% full and stack them (trust me on this one).  When the totes are empty again, they seem to spring back to their normal shape.  Mulch and manure are much lighter.

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Ok what am I gonna barter, let's see I have fig trees and succulent plants, I need a new front window and a root canal. Any takers???

I will barter some of your figs for the root canal.  I'm not at all trained, but I have a drill.  How hard can it be??? :D

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LOL, you might actually perform it with less pain James, but no, I'll pass.

Noss,
Never heard of Poo-Yieee. I don't think we have it here in Virginia.
What's great about bunny poop is you can put it in your pots and not worry about it burning your plants. Other manures really need to be composted first.

Barry - dookie!!!!!!!!!!   I cracked up!!  Thanks - I needed that!!

Aside from the bunnies who visit my garden, eat the beet tops, I think maybe they also eat the impatien leaves and lounge in the flower bed after eating their fill, I don't know much about them except their cute!!  And I just can't hate them - they need to eat too.

So, why doesn't bunny poo have the herbicides in it?

JoAnn,

I am a little conflicted about rabbits myself.  In my job I specifically manage some tracts of land in an effort to maximize rabbits and other wildlife for hunting.  However, at home it seems I spend a lot of time trying to keep them out of my garden and orchard. 
I don't hate rabbits at my house, but when they eat my sweet potato vines and girdle my apple trees I strongly dislike them, and feel a sense of justice when one gets put in the soup pot.

The rabbit manure should be safe from the harmful herbicide Grazon because most folks feed their rabbits a manufactured pelletized feed whose main ingredient is alfalfa.  Grazon cannot be used on alfalfa.

Alfalfa pellets work well too, no need to compost if added to the top of soil or container.

I raise meat rabbits and have plenty of bunny poo! I'd welcome a trade for figs any day! I would even throw in some high octane chicken poo as well. :-)

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