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potatochips101

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Anyone get a refund as yet from this James person yet? No?
Me neither.
He sent me an email seeming to be refunding me my money turns it looks like he is using a scam tactic to scam more money from me.
He sent me a Western Union check for $201 but only owed me $51.
I contacted him about the "mistake" and he writes me back telling me this...

"The $201 was a mistake, I meant to send you a check for $51. The person who was supposed to receive $201 only received a $51 check.

I can't let you keep the extra $150 that you received, I need it to pay the other person his refund. Here's an easy solution: I can email you an invoice for $150 and you can pay it online with a credit card (you would cash the $201 check and keep that money). That way you would have your $51, and I would get my $150 back to send to the other person. Would that work for you?

Sorry for the hassle.

Best regards,
James"

This my dear fig lovers is a scam tactic.

Someone from the Offer up app. tried this last year with my husband and he looked googled the situation and we read about all this identical scam tactic.

Do not send anyone money who sent you the wrong amount!

Let them send you a Paypal payment.

You have been warned.

Warmest regards.

Chips

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Seeking: Panache Tiger Stripe, Ronde De Bordeaux,Black Bethlehem, Sicilian Red, Malta Black, Gino's Black, Col de Dame gris, Figo Preto, Orphan, Black Mission, Macool,Pastilliere, Malta Black, Battalagia Green, Maltese Falcon, Galicia

Please PM me if you have any of the above rooted cuttings or trees for sale or trade.
I am new to collecting so I don't have much to trade as yet.

Currently growing in containers:
Brown Turkey, Atreano,Alma Violetta, English Brown Turkey, Celeste, JH Adriatic, LSU Purple, LSU Tiger, Banana, Early Violette, Stanford, Green Ischia, Violette Du Bordeaux, Mary Lane, Petite Negra, Hollier, Alma, Chicago Hardy, Sals Corleone, Black Madiera, Smith, Desert King, Negronne, St. Rita, Atreano Gold,
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WOW !
The over payment is almost believable, that's some
SHADY SHIT!
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As many people as James has ripped off keep the extra $150 screw him make him go broke. He probably needs that extra $150 to pay the owner of this forum his cut
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Bought some plants w/ my credit card. When I called them they put together a dispute and it was resolved pretty easy. If you bought with a CC then I would go straight to them and not mess around with the seller or PayPal.
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He just keeps messing up. Don’t see how he can profit off this but keep the money 💰.
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potatochips101

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That's the rub. There is no money to be gotten from a shady check!

You deposit it at your bank they will clear it then a little while later will contact you reversing their payment from your account upon their finding out that the check could not clear due to lack of funds on the false check.

Meanwhile you're out the real money (the difference between what they owed you and the "overpay" amount that the false check was written for) that you sent to the scammer.

So, you ultimately aquire insult to compliment your healthy serving of injury.

Your welcomed, have a nice day huh?

On an up note, this year was an excellent harvest year for us in MD.

For that I am grateful.


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Maryland Zone 7a
Seeking: Panache Tiger Stripe, Ronde De Bordeaux,Black Bethlehem, Sicilian Red, Malta Black, Gino's Black, Col de Dame gris, Figo Preto, Orphan, Black Mission, Macool,Pastilliere, Malta Black, Battalagia Green, Maltese Falcon, Galicia

Please PM me if you have any of the above rooted cuttings or trees for sale or trade.
I am new to collecting so I don't have much to trade as yet.

Currently growing in containers:
Brown Turkey, Atreano,Alma Violetta, English Brown Turkey, Celeste, JH Adriatic, LSU Purple, LSU Tiger, Banana, Early Violette, Stanford, Green Ischia, Violette Du Bordeaux, Mary Lane, Petite Negra, Hollier, Alma, Chicago Hardy, Sals Corleone, Black Madiera, Smith, Desert King, Negronne, St. Rita, Atreano Gold,
potatochips101

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If more than 6 months passed the credit card company will not reverse the charge. I tried that and that's what they told me.
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Maryland Zone 7a
Seeking: Panache Tiger Stripe, Ronde De Bordeaux,Black Bethlehem, Sicilian Red, Malta Black, Gino's Black, Col de Dame gris, Figo Preto, Orphan, Black Mission, Macool,Pastilliere, Malta Black, Battalagia Green, Maltese Falcon, Galicia

Please PM me if you have any of the above rooted cuttings or trees for sale or trade.
I am new to collecting so I don't have much to trade as yet.

Currently growing in containers:
Brown Turkey, Atreano,Alma Violetta, English Brown Turkey, Celeste, JH Adriatic, LSU Purple, LSU Tiger, Banana, Early Violette, Stanford, Green Ischia, Violette Du Bordeaux, Mary Lane, Petite Negra, Hollier, Alma, Chicago Hardy, Sals Corleone, Black Madiera, Smith, Desert King, Negronne, St. Rita, Atreano Gold,
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Thanks for sharing! That really is some shady shit. Was he banned from PayPal or something? Is that why he refrains from using it?? If that's true = red flag for sure!
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I've been waiting for over a year for cuttings or a $110 refund. All he sends is emails and more B.S. I'm about ready to pay this ass a visit and beat the snot out of him. Anyone else want to join me?
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Sounds like a simple mistake to me. I know a lot Of people are furious with him for taking far longer to deliver orders than he promised upon purchase, thinking he had ripped them off, but we all know how hard it is to accurately anticipate how fast varieties will grow, and it seems he really screwed up with his timeline, and dealt with a lot growing his fig propagation business, but had no ill intentions. He is currently getting completely caught up with his outstanding cuttings orders, and shipping out orders. I just received mine, and not only did I get the cuttings I paid for, but he generously sent extras of each variety. I am one of the people who almost gave up on my orders, but he truly delivered WAY more than I paid for as a way of making up for the late delivery.
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Wow you got your order? That's good news. I'm glad for you. It may be simple mistakes or whatever but a few posts on a few fig forums would have helped to ease the concerns of those of us who had waited way past their deadlines.
In either case, I'm really glad that you got your stuff. Thats cool. I like when things work out.
Hopefully the rest of us who haven't gotten figs or refunds will be helped soon.

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Maryland Zone 7a
Seeking: Panache Tiger Stripe, Ronde De Bordeaux,Black Bethlehem, Sicilian Red, Malta Black, Gino's Black, Col de Dame gris, Figo Preto, Orphan, Black Mission, Macool,Pastilliere, Malta Black, Battalagia Green, Maltese Falcon, Galicia

Please PM me if you have any of the above rooted cuttings or trees for sale or trade.
I am new to collecting so I don't have much to trade as yet.

Currently growing in containers:
Brown Turkey, Atreano,Alma Violetta, English Brown Turkey, Celeste, JH Adriatic, LSU Purple, LSU Tiger, Banana, Early Violette, Stanford, Green Ischia, Violette Du Bordeaux, Mary Lane, Petite Negra, Hollier, Alma, Chicago Hardy, Sals Corleone, Black Madiera, Smith, Desert King, Negronne, St. Rita, Atreano Gold,
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Originally Posted by Nic40
As many people as James has ripped off keep the extra $150 screw him make him go broke. He probably needs that extra $150 to pay the owner of this forum his cut


Really just stop the vitriol about Jon. You have absolutely no #$#& idea what is going on behind the scenes. A couple of AH like you are the reason the main site is shut down and I don't blame them. EVERYONE knows the guy is a ripoff artist, so enough. Let it go.

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I ordered and then made some amendments. At that time he refunded me few $. I could not guess any bad intentions by his behavior. And still thinking he might be in trouble.
My prayer r with him in this case , 100$ loss makes no difference in our lives

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potatochips101

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Re: Was he banned from PayPal or something? Is that why he refrains from using it??

He told me in an email that he couldn't use PayPal- closed account.

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Maryland Zone 7a
Seeking: Panache Tiger Stripe, Ronde De Bordeaux,Black Bethlehem, Sicilian Red, Malta Black, Gino's Black, Col de Dame gris, Figo Preto, Orphan, Black Mission, Macool,Pastilliere, Malta Black, Battalagia Green, Maltese Falcon, Galicia

Please PM me if you have any of the above rooted cuttings or trees for sale or trade.
I am new to collecting so I don't have much to trade as yet.

Currently growing in containers:
Brown Turkey, Atreano,Alma Violetta, English Brown Turkey, Celeste, JH Adriatic, LSU Purple, LSU Tiger, Banana, Early Violette, Stanford, Green Ischia, Violette Du Bordeaux, Mary Lane, Petite Negra, Hollier, Alma, Chicago Hardy, Sals Corleone, Black Madiera, Smith, Desert King, Negronne, St. Rita, Atreano Gold,
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Potatochips101- why don’t you actually try to confirm the authenticity of the WU money order/check before you go into public forums trying to get people spun up over what is likely a false accusation. Yes, we all know this type of payment scam exists, but the likelihood of Greenfin trying to do it is highly unlikely. The resulting charges would be Check fraud and mail fraud at least. He has enough problems without people making up fake news about him.
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Send the check back to him without cashing it and let him send you the proper amount on his own.
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Potatochips101- why don’t you actually try to confirm the authenticity of the WU money order/check before you go into public forums trying to get people spun up over what is likely a false accusation. Yes, we all know this type of payment scam exists, but the likelihood of Greenfin trying to do it is highly unlikely. The resulting charges would be Check fraud and mail fraud at least. He has enough problems without people making up fake news about him.

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Maryland Zone 7a
Seeking: Panache Tiger Stripe, Ronde De Bordeaux,Black Bethlehem, Sicilian Red, Malta Black, Gino's Black, Col de Dame gris, Figo Preto, Orphan, Black Mission, Macool,Pastilliere, Malta Black, Battalagia Green, Maltese Falcon, Galicia

Please PM me if you have any of the above rooted cuttings or trees for sale or trade.
I am new to collecting so I don't have much to trade as yet.

Currently growing in containers:
Brown Turkey, Atreano,Alma Violetta, English Brown Turkey, Celeste, JH Adriatic, LSU Purple, LSU Tiger, Banana, Early Violette, Stanford, Green Ischia, Violette Du Bordeaux, Mary Lane, Petite Negra, Hollier, Alma, Chicago Hardy, Sals Corleone, Black Madiera, Smith, Desert King, Negronne, St. Rita, Atreano Gold,
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Thanks for sharing. I don't know if his check is good or not. I should not have to figure this out. But not all of us know that this type of scam exists. I don't know if this was a scam attempt but it certainly looked like one that I and my husband just dealt with and I simply gave folks a heads up.
I shared my experience. Truths not lies. You may have feelings about my sharing but I should not be silent if something seems/ed off.
Thank you.

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Maryland Zone 7a
Seeking: Panache Tiger Stripe, Ronde De Bordeaux,Black Bethlehem, Sicilian Red, Malta Black, Gino's Black, Col de Dame gris, Figo Preto, Orphan, Black Mission, Macool,Pastilliere, Malta Black, Battalagia Green, Maltese Falcon, Galicia

Please PM me if you have any of the above rooted cuttings or trees for sale or trade.
I am new to collecting so I don't have much to trade as yet.

Currently growing in containers:
Brown Turkey, Atreano,Alma Violetta, English Brown Turkey, Celeste, JH Adriatic, LSU Purple, LSU Tiger, Banana, Early Violette, Stanford, Green Ischia, Violette Du Bordeaux, Mary Lane, Petite Negra, Hollier, Alma, Chicago Hardy, Sals Corleone, Black Madiera, Smith, Desert King, Negronne, St. Rita, Atreano Gold,
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Except you don’t really get it. On multiple forums, you’ve accused someone of committing federal crimes. You would have lost nothing by simply calling a customer service number for Western Union and verifying if it was real or not. Instead, everyone is out $200 because if you’ve thrown the check away I’m sure he won’t be able to get a refund on it. And it’ll be even longer until you get your actual $51. Of course you shouldn’t have to figure it out on your own, but you could have spent two minutes trying to verify it before making a bad situation worse and maligning someone because you had to post your #metoo !! No one deserved to have this happen to them, but it has. At least he was attempting to send you a refund, which is more than what a lot of people have gotten.
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Ok Laura. I did warn. So that others may be made aware that this type of problem is possible. I said that he is using a scam tactic. It is a scam tactic look it up!

Maybe he didn't know that maybe he did.

I'm not so keen to blindly trust when I'm still recovering from the broken trust that he helped to damage by so long not responding or sending me my plants.

Maybe he is on the up and up or maybe not I don't know but I'll still share my experience just in case. I wish that I knew that others before me had not received thier plants, communication or money before I placed my order.

Life can be hectic. I get that. My life is busy and I shouldn't have to figure my refund out. It should have been double checked and correct from the beginning. I just got a bad feeling when I got that wrong amount and I told about it.

People make mistakes and people also knowingly do wrong. This seemed fishy and wrong to me and I said something on the forums about my experience.

I have the right to say something to everyone if something is good or not good.

This us a forum and I wrote about my thoughts and current experience on it.

Please don't add insults to the injured that also does not help.

Those who have not gotten what they paid for have the right to say so and to discuss their feelings and solutions.

If you don't like it. Keep on clicking by onto topics that you want to read about.

I have the right to speak if you don't like the nature of the warning, if you feel like he has been maligned ok. I hear you.

I don't wish him ill. I don't wish you or anyone else on here ill either.

He can make peace at least with some of us by doing right publicly.

He may have been trying.
He should continue to try until all is well with all of us, his past customers.

Take care and enjoy your figs.

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Maryland Zone 7a
Seeking: Panache Tiger Stripe, Ronde De Bordeaux,Black Bethlehem, Sicilian Red, Malta Black, Gino's Black, Col de Dame gris, Figo Preto, Orphan, Black Mission, Macool,Pastilliere, Malta Black, Battalagia Green, Maltese Falcon, Galicia

Please PM me if you have any of the above rooted cuttings or trees for sale or trade.
I am new to collecting so I don't have much to trade as yet.

Currently growing in containers:
Brown Turkey, Atreano,Alma Violetta, English Brown Turkey, Celeste, JH Adriatic, LSU Purple, LSU Tiger, Banana, Early Violette, Stanford, Green Ischia, Violette Du Bordeaux, Mary Lane, Petite Negra, Hollier, Alma, Chicago Hardy, Sals Corleone, Black Madiera, Smith, Desert King, Negronne, St. Rita, Atreano Gold,
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Except you don’t really get it. On multiple forums, you’ve accused someone of committing federal crimes. You would have lost nothing by simply calling a customer service number for Western Union and verifying if it was real or not. Instead, everyone is out $200 because if you’ve thrown the check away I’m sure he won’t be able to get a refund on it. And it’ll be even longer until you get your actual $51. Of course you shouldn’t have to figure it out on your own, but you could have spent two minutes trying to verify it before making a bad situation worse and maligning someone because you had to post your #metoo !! No one deserved to have this happen to them, but it has. At least he was attempting to send you a refund, which is more than what a lot of people have gotten.
Laura


Calling western union does not get you much. It certainly doesn't guarantee the check. Money order scams wouldn't work so well if it were that easy.

I think tater gets it. She received a check which looked like a scam and she let people know what happened and that what occurred is directly out of the check scam playbook. That's what any responsible person should do.

For Jamie to send a scam check would be unlikely, stupid, and crazy but Jamie has done a lot of stupid and crazy things over the last few years and has the reputation of a scammer. No way I would have sent him cash as requested either.

Glad to hear he may be starting to turn things around but it'll be years before he becomes any thing close to trustworthy.

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