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Black Genoa

This is a variety known in Australia. A friend sent me the pictures of the ripe fruits.

Looks good! I have a small plant and I'm looking forward to the time when it flowers. It looks tasty.

It's currently winter in Australia, but this fig is grown in Queensland where it's mild in winter. 
Little John where did you get your Black Genoa from?




Anyone knows how Blk Genoa taste? Fig looks pretty.

Bass, I got 1 cutting from a friend in Australia. It was taken from an actively growing tree so it rooted easily, lucky for me. Also got White Adriatic from that source.

My friend their says they are the best tasting figs she ever had.

Great info BASS. Thanks. Any tips on other aussie figs that are good ? I have a brother residing in Melbourne, Australia.

HI Bass

The fig to me does not look like black genoa.  The leaves are very deeply elongated.  The black genoa in Australia I believe is used as a generic term for many black figs. I believe there true names have been lost or mistranslated through the years.

The common black genoa has broad leaves and the fruit are usually round.  These ones look flat..could be a burjassot?

Hi George, welcome to the group. It's always good to hear from others with some knowledge of our common passion.
"gene"

If im not mistaken in Condit's Monograph Black Genoa is listed under San Piero.

When I was in OZ in late Aug, the largest nursery in Melbourne only had 2 BG left compared to others
like Excel, Adriatic, etc. There was a special on for the week. Initially I was told BG was sold out
but a search revealed 2 were available. I was told by the supervisor that BG is very popular. I bought
one for my brother. Just too bad I had no time to hunt for figs but did see many dormant trees that
resemble fig trees.

Yes.
The leaves of Black Genoa, shown in the second picture, are the typical leaves of San Piero. It is said that San Piero is supposed to have more than 40 (!!!!!) synonyms.
Here are some;)
France
Abicou
Aubique Noire
Grosse Violette Longue
Figue Poire
Noire de Languedoc
Grosse Rouge de Bordeaux
Grosse Violette de Bordeaux
Italy
San Piero
Corbo
Piombinese
Rubicone
Arbicone
Fallugiana
Manna di Schiavo
Spain
Pacuecas
Breva Negra
Albacor
England and the USA
Negro Largo
Black Douro
Warren´s Brown Turkey
Black Genoa
Black Portugal
Black San Pedro
Japan
Masui Dauphine

It is also called California Brown turkey in the US,and is good only in hot dry regions,like Sacramento Valley Ca.
It also make sense Why?
Look at the large eye and large cavity.
It needs to get ripe fast,in a couple of days or else,it will grow fungus inside,or fig bettle will fil the cavity in the rainy climate.

>>> It is said that San Piero is supposed to have more than 40 (!!!!!) synonyms.


??!!??

I throw-in my towel (aka.; to-heck with all these crazy-fig-names).

Gorgi, please don't throw in towel!  This is actually in some ways good, if you are someone who keeps track of a specific area in a country or world where your particular figs are from, synonyms are great!  A fig tree can be the same in two different villages. One village has a name, the other village has different name for the same fig. By knowing the name of same fig is called in different places, you can trace to exact locale of your particular plant you have!!! Even track to a particular person or famigly. It will greatly pinpoint same tree, particular locality is from. My Mongibello, this is what they call in a particular town! two miles down road, they have different name for the mong. I know exactly what location it is from by the different names. I keep track of records to a T and this is extrememly important to me. This why so many different names for same fig in a small geographical area or a larger area spread throughout world. I find Mikes list of names in different regions of the world interesting, because you get this fig, by the name alone you will know of its origin of that particular plant you have.. ciao

Gorgi I know how you feel. By the way Roxo de Valinhos from Brazil too is San Piero.

If anyone knows how to translate a pdf from Portuguese to english.

http://www.fca.unesp.br/pos_graduacao/Teses/PDFs/Arq0356.pdf

O cultivo desta importante fruteira, no Brasil baseia-se unicamente na

plantação de um único material, a variedade Roxo de Valinhos. De acordo com dados oficiais

é uma variedade muito cultivada e conhecida em outros países, com as seguintes

denominações: San Piero, Borwn Turkey, Negro Largo, Douro Blank, Negro d’Espagne,

Aubique Nooire, Portugal, Albicone, Rubicone e Brunswich

In a nutshell, I believe:  It's a variant of Purple Valinhos (or Purple of Valinhos, the city).  In addition to its given name, it is cultivated heavily in other countries, known by the following names:  San Piero, Brown Turkey, Wide Black, Douro Black, Black of Spain, Aubique Nooire, Portugal, Albicone, Rubicone and Brunswick

I can send to one of my coworkers in Brasil if you want a native speaker's translation, but what you will gain in knowledge of Portuguese, you will lose in knowledge of fig varieties ;)

Side tidbit from Wikipedia:  Valinhos is a city and municipality (municipio) in the state of São Paulo, Brazil. It is famous for its purple fig, the theme of its annual Fig Fest.

(JG:  Seriously, fig fest?  Why don't we have those in the USA?  ;))

Let me see if I have this righ - a Brown Turkey by any other name (and there are 40+ other names) would still taste like Brown Turkey?

I'm glad I didn't go on an all-out hunt for Spanish Black ("Black of Spain").  The name combines two of my favorite things, Spain and black figs.  I figured, "how could it be bad?"

But, I dunno about y'all, that fig up there in pictures doesn't look very tasty to me on the insides.

OK ,Black of Spain: I am sure it is very good and tasty in Spain,fig growing region,but the climate here is much more rainy than in Spain,and that is why ,is not suitable for our area.
And By the way:Australia has dry climate too,and good for growing this variety.

A very interesting looking fig, but I'm with Herman: With that open eye it would never stand up to our 50 inches of rain and high humidity.  A friend here brought a fig from Lebanon.  It grew well, and it was an interesting fig, until I saw that when they started to ripen, about half of the figs were fuzy looking (fungus) and even the ones that weren't fuzy, many were soured.  I tightly closed eye is important in our climate.

Hope everyone is well.

Happy holidays.

John
North Georgia Piedmont
Zone 7b

Anyone have any info about Genoa Purple? I'm thinking of purchasing one for my collection.

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Originally Posted by alanmercieca
Australia is where the only real, Black Genoa, originates, outside of wherever it, originally originated from, yet based upon the name, I am guessing that it originally originated from Genoa Italy.

Bass - can you get some leaf photos, from your friend? The only leaf photos taken in Australia, that I have seen for it, I think the tree, was too young, to have it's true leaf shape.


I'm in Sydney and have a Black Genoa. Will post a photo in 30 mins.

A Black Genoa as requested. It has been in the ground for 5 years.

Some leaves have a clear 5 lobes while most have 3.  Main crop starting to show now and they are the best I have tasted but I have limited experience.  I have acquired a 'few more' varieties this season.


BG1.jpgBG2.jpg


1 scanned photo & 1 taken by SLR.  


The fruit of mine is more oval than the pict on this thread..

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