Remis paid me a visit, and we exchanged plants he gave me a spare he had rooted. 
Here is Black Ischia 3014X from Jons scion list and propagated by Remis this past winter.

We chatted briefly in yard and looked at all the plants, i pointed out the 2 UcDavis ischia's i have one taller than this one pictured and one smaller and compared them.

Remis if you see this thread thank you for plant and hope you enjoy yours as well .

I transplanted it yesterday evening.

Sorry for the rush it turned out the Misses starter went out in the car and i gave it a couple of good smacks with a small hammer sledge and started car.
It was locked up as i tried to jump it with a screwdriver the ole fashion way but it would not engage.
I replaced it yesterday on the driveway instead of waiting for it to go bad in middle of winter.

Nice plant Martin. It's such a shame that 99% of the Blk Ischias out there are infected with FMV. My Blk Missions are infected with FMV as well, but it has not affected their growth whatsoever. Hopefully yours will grow out of it and you'll enjoy it for many years to come.

Navid.

It's a  lofty quest but a FMV free B Ischia and B Madeira would be a worthwhile discovery.

Navid your so right about that 99% , my mission also laughs at FMV and now my Madeira is doing same thing - laughing off the FmV.
I just may taste a ripened black ischia this season off my ucdavis ones.


Dominick, there maybe a virus free black ischia on the island but then even oversea's i been reading FmV is prevelant but i would love to go to Ischia .

I have yet to see genuine "UcDavis" Black Ischia without the virus on any forum.

 My madeira this season is growing well and has nice crop of figs on it that may ripen despite any FmV, i left all its figs on plant and did no pruning of plant to see what it does with its fig .

Maderia tree is adjusting its timeing on putting on figs as i have seen this with my others in the past.

Regarding our spring here wait a minute i dont think we had a spring season, it was really bad for doing the fig shuffle but plants in yard are coming along .

Martin I know a reputable source for Blk. Ischia that it is lees infected with FMV than the UCD cuttings. If you are interested jut send me an email.

Yes Navid im always interested in this type.  ; )

If its who i think it is there source that plant came from was said to be by that sourced grower a "Black Provence."


Either way my small plant did not make it through winter and i may try to get another to try and compare them down the road with mine.

It also would be in my interest to obtain a Black Provence as well if i could find one.   ; )

Navid
I sent you a email and Many Thanks.

My black Ischia too is laughing off FMV! Looking at leaves thru spring and summer I was hard pressed to see any discoloration. Mine is from UCD and I was sure it wasn't going to make it the first year. In it's third year it's coming on gangbusters.

Sue thats really really great to hear.  ; )

And best part its a "UcDavis Black Ischia .

Thanks for posting about your "UcDavis Black Ischia" its great to hear that and keeps my bulb lit.

Thanks again.

Martin, I'll take some pictures of the leaves and tree this week when I get a chance and post them so you can see what I mean. In the mean time this is a typical leaf on my BI that I took at the end of June.
Sue

Not trying to be confrontational here, I just don't understand what it means, "less infected with FMV". A tree is either infected or not. It isn't like there are multiple strains of FMV that are identified. A tree either has it or (we think) doesn't. Likewise, a tree is either affected by the infection or isn't. Some are affected the first couple years.... Some not so much. It seems like Black Ischia is one of them that is affected the first 1-2 years... Then is alright.

Jason i sent a pm

Jason,

You got whole milk, 2% and 1/2%. It all comes from the cow.

No Rafed, you get pure unpasteurized cow's milk from a cow.

Humans then convert that milk into various strenghts of cream, butter, yogurt, and percentages of milkfat milk. 

There aren't cows that produce 2% milk, while others of the same genetic variety in the same stall produce whole milk and then maybe the skinny ones produce the 1% milk ("milk water") from the udder.  It's not possible.  Cow's milk is cow's milk, 100% strength. 

You are comparing apples to olives, my friend ;)

My point being ... if you have 20 Black Ischia trees with the same genetic makeup, and they are infected by FMV, one of them is not going to be "worse" because it is "more heavily" infected.   If it's infected, it's infected.  The virus is there.  It's not like some trees have "twice as much" virus inside them, therefore they are "worse off".  They're either infected or they're not. 

If they are genetically the same plant material, they should be affected by FMV in the same way, to the same degree, and FMV should distribute amongst the cells of the plant to a similar fashion.  It shouldn't be possible for two genetically identical plants (taken from cuttings of the same tree) to be more or less affected, if you follow me.

Or maybe I'm just crazy.

I think the "more affected" plants are probably infected with more than just FMV, and the presence of two different viruses allows for one of the two viruses to more heavily affect the plant.

PS - Martin, I will email.  You have PMs turned off.

It still started from the cow, My point

Not trying to be confrontational either. By ‘less infected’, I meant it shows a less severe symptoms of FMV, as I explained to Martin via the email.

I have a Madeleine De Deux.

Last year it had a real heavy FMV infection. Earlier this year I chopped it down to about 3" to 6" inches and gave it a couple of good doses of fertilizer. Some improvement.

I will give it another chop next Spring and see what happens. But I expect more and better improvement.

I expect you will see improvement, Rafed.  Reason being, just like many other plant or animal species, with age, maturity and development the species is stronger and more resilient to diseases, thus they're going to show more signs of infection at a younger age.  As your tree ages and gets stronger, it only makes sense that new growth will show less and less signs.

I personally don't see how it is possible for two genetically identical pieces of plant material to show two different reactions to one single virus.  That's like saying I'm creating pieces of sheet metal with the exact same composition, but when I shoot two of them in exactly the same fashion with the same bullet, the bullet will smash one to pieces, but simply put a dent in the other.

This is my strongest Ischia Black.  I thought all the figs were main crop but two are just on the edge of transition from last years growth and new growth.  One started to swell today.  I noticed three spots of latex near eye?  Its pouring out here.  I took pictures with one hand on camera, one on coin, umbrella under armpit.

Well here's one for you Jason.

I have in my collection sevreal fig trees that share this one common problem.

Try to picture this in your head;

Take a fig tree ( one fig tree ) with two branches spreading like a V shape.
Both branches being the same size.
One branch with perfectly heathy leaves and growing.
The other branch with a case of FMV and struggling.

How do you explain that?

My Coll de dame Blanc the main trunk every leaf so far that grew on the main trunk show absolutely no fmv yet it grew a little branch on one side and every leaf is deformed and shows heavy fmv coloration. Why is this limb so infected and not the rest of the plant?

To both of you: 

Why can I cut two limbs from the same tree, and one cutting does very well, but one totally fails? 

I guess because some limbs are stronger than others.  We've all experienced this.  Some plant tissue is just more viable than others.

I had a Hollier tree purchased from a seller in Louisiana.  All but one limb died.  In fact, the entire trunk died of some weird disease, but there was one branch offshooting from the trunk which was somehow healthy.  I suppose that branch was just stronger than the trunk.  I don't think it's because it's genetically unique or special, although we know that some plants do "toggle" characteristics (see 'panachee' and 'reverse').

We can sit here and discuss all day long, but until we have some way to genetically test for all viruses that affect fig trees, we really have no way of knowing.  Until we do, I have a problem with blindly accepting that two genetically identical trees will react (as a whole) differently to a gentically identical virus.

Jason I agree with you, without the proper test's we will never know for sure. What I was trying to get at was that my plant was clearly infected with fmv to beggin with just took sometime for it to show up. Guess FMV Is like herpes lol in a way.

Here is something most of us can agree on.

FMV is part of this hobby! Like it or not, you will deal with it at one time or another. It is as common as the common flu. Here today, gone tomorrow.

Most of my trees are infected by it and I am not bothered by it.

Hear, hear brother.