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MzFiggy

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Hello everyone!

I'm new to this forum and I recently purchased a black Madeira on eBay. I noticed a couple of young leaves falling off today and am worried that something may be wrong. I'm fairly new to growing figs and tecently started to build my fig collection. There was only six leaves when I received the rooted cutting, but I'm now down to four leaves. Should I be worried? What could be causing this? I repotted the fig in a 3 gallon container with organic miracle grow soil. Any help or insight would be much appreciated! Thanks!

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Hello everyone!

I'm new to this forum and I recently purchased a black Madeira on eBay. I noticed a couple of young leaves falling off today and am worried that something may be wrong. I'm fairly new to growing figs and tecently started to build my fig collection. There was only six leaves when I received the rooted cutting, but I'm now down to four leaves. Should I be worried? What could be causing this? I repotted the fig in a 3 gallon container with organic miracle grow soil. Any help or insight would be much appreciated! Thanks!



It could be the strees of the shipping. If you repotted the tree, put it in a place where the fig only receives morning sun. You could gradually introduce the fig to more sun once you see that the tree is growing new leaves. It's important that you don't fertilize your fig tree after repotting or you could hurt the root system.

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Thank you! That may have been where I went wrong. I mixed in some Epsoma organic fertilizer with the soil and have it in the full sun. I had it out for a couple of days under morning sun, then moved it out to full sun today. I'll try moving it back under the morning sun and hope it's not too late. Thank you! Hopefully I keep the remaining four leaves!
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Thank you! That may have been where I went wrong. I mixed in some Epsoma organic fertilizer with the soil and have it in the full sun. I had it out for a couple of days under morning sun, then moved it out to full sun today. I'll try moving it back under the morning sun and hope it's not too late. Thank you! Hopefully I keep the remaining four leaves!


Just keep in mind that always when you reppot a tree, you don't fertilize it. In the repotting process you inevitably almost always broke some fine roots (the one that the tree uses to get nutriets) and when you fertilize after repoting, you will have fine broken roots that will absorb the fertilizer and will get damage. Depending on how many roots are broken, the type and amount of fertilizer used is the damage the tree will suffer. As a rule of thumb, after reppoting I always wait one month before using fertilizer. The only exception I do is the use of osmocote after one week.

The fertilizer you used is a mild one, so I think your BM will make it.
Let us know what happens.

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Will do! Thank you for the tips! I have more figs on the way and this will help for potting up the other ones.
Now to do some research on getting cuttings to root. I purchased some cuttings and hope to get those to take. I've been watching tons of YouTube videos! :)
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MzFiggy, where are you located?
I would be careful about using Miracle Gro potting soil. Is this the one with coco coir? It holds too much water IMO and suffocates tiny roots.

I would use a lighter potting soil with more bark with better drainage. 

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I wouldn't use Miracle gro organic potting mix with its coir and peat straight. Try something like Kellogg Organic Patio Plus for outdoor container, it drains much better due to its high wood chips content.

And I agree with using oscomote if you really want to add fertilizer now.  The plant will continue to drop leaves even if you fix it now but it will bounce back if you take it out of full sun and try not to overwater it after repotting with new mix.

The same thing happened to me just a few months ago :) Where or who did you get your Black Madeira from? People warned me to check the forums first on the sellers before bidding on ebay.
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Hi,
It is probably stress from the transport.
If you're in the northern hemisphere, potting up now is IMO a bad choice.
You're giving more dirt that will hold more water to a tree that is slowly not using so much water.
Because now the tree won't grow much and will start to go dormant. The tree is young and has no fruit to feed so it needs less water.

For now, check the mix for moisture and keep the pot on the dry side. If you have rainy weather try to put the pot under a porch so that
the rain can't fall in the pot.
Aside from that, we do our best and so do the figtrees.

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Thanks everyone! I'm in zone 7b/8a. I also added mulch on top. I checked the soil and it was on the moist side, I'll take the mulch off to let it dry out some.

Should I re-pot it with the new soil now? I'm afraid it may do more damage to the roots, but will leaving it make it worse? The plant came in looking great, it was green and healthy with decent roots. I got it from a reputable eBay seller, he had great feedback and was known on the forums and fig groups to be good.

Unfortunately, my not so green thumb is causing this poor fig tree to struggle.
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Thanks everyone! I'm in zone 7b/8a. I also added mulch on top. I checked the soil and it was on the moist side, I'll take the mulch off to let it dry out some.

Should I re-pot it with the new soil now? I'm afraid it may do more damage to the roots, but will leaving it make it worse? The plant came in looking great, it was green and healthy with decent roots. I got it from a reputable eBay seller, he had great feedback and was known on the forums and fig groups to be good.

Unfortunately, my not so green thumb is causing this poor fig tree to struggle.


Re potting again so soon will stress your BM even more. I would try to keep it on the dry side for now. When you see that the tree is healthy again, then consider a re potting with a more dry mix. Also, mulch will add more humidity to your mix.

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I was in that dilemma early in the season. The leaves were dropping 1 by 1, about 1 per day. I planted it in MG Organic potting mix with moisture control and thought moisture control was good and would take care of the excess water issue. Plus, I thought it was shipping/transplant shock. If I replanted it then, it will stress the plant again. 

The leaves had sign of rust rot, rare in SoCal dry climate but that suggests watering issue. So, I waited, kept it on the dry side but it didn't seem like it will slow down its leaf drops. I repotted it in smaller pot, add more perlite and even let the original root ball dry a little before planting. The leaf drops slow down to 1 every 2-3 days. 

I was testing ready made soil mix for other plants and realized the Kellogg one dries much faster than MG. As the plant with only 1 leaf left, I changed its mix to the Kellogg one and it promptly dropped its last leaf. But in 2 days, it was budding again and the whole thing bounced back. I don't know what would happen if I didn't change the mix. May be it can also bounce back without the change. 

I also watered very carefully throughout this period except the first time, I pot it up and had to water it thoroughly to get rid of air pocket, even though the original soil was still moist.
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I removed the mulch and moved it out of direct sun today and so far, I still have the remaining four leaves. I think I'm going to wait and watch to see how it does before trying anything else.

Thanks for the tips and support! I feel better that I haven't lost any leaves today! I'm watching it like a hawk though! ;)
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