Black Madeira fig in Europe?

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JoF

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Posted 1431005349	Reply with quote #1

Hi. I live in Europe , in south of France and in Tunisia , i would like to get Black Madeira if you have informations to get this variety in Europe or somewere else , i would be very happy.. I think this fantastic fig will rich to maturity very well with the mediteranean climat of Tunisia.. Thank you for any informations.. Regards. JoF. __________________ I live between France and Tunisia , figs varieties in culture:some Tunisians, Mussega,col de dame noir, Bellone, Grise de saint jean, celestes, spanish Brevas.

greenfig

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Posted 1431012903 · Edited	Reply with quote #2

It may be known there by the name Violeta. Please search the forum, Francisco posted a lot about it from Portugal . Also, your Zidi is very comparable to the BM. Have you tried it? It originally came from the N. Africa I believe __________________ wish list: Violeta, Calderona. USDA z 10a, SoCal

lampo

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Posted 1431028583	Reply with quote #3

Hello JoF The Black Madeira roots (Violeta) are in Portugal where you still find a few ..as it is approaching extinction You seem very interested and under the circumstances we may try and come up with a solution but it has to be when trees are in dormancy. Hope they keep the rules allowing free exchange of plant material inside the EU It will give you great figs whether you plant it in Bordeaux,Marseilles , Beja or Monastir . You may do a search in this forum for 'Violeta'.. there will be plenty of pictures Francisco Portugal Thank you Igor to mention the elegant Violeta

kenny

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Posted 1431029791	Reply with quote #4

New information I learn today, Thank you. __________________ Wish list: Black Madeira. Zidi and more... 2nd year in pots: Adriatic JH, VdB, RdB, Angelo's Dark, Antonio'd Black, Nero600M, Flanders, Petite Negra. 1st year in pot:Galicia Negra, White Genoa, Black Mission, and other unknown figs I gather last year. Rooting now: Varieties of Greek figs and more dark unknown figs.

rafaelissimmo

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Posted 1431032166	Reply with quote #5

Francisco your Violeta/BM looks astoundingly similar to my Preto foto attached! Attached Images image.jpg (69.76 KB, 27 views) __________________ Zone 7b, Queens, New York

JoF

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Posted 1431034234	Reply with quote #6

Thank you very much for the informations Francisco, i will wait an looking for Violetta figs, Portugal is magnificient mediteranean country wich i visited many years ago, and we grows certainly fabulous fig tree there.. I am from Sousse in Tunisia, i we have lots of varities around there. Regards. JoF. __________________ I live between France and Tunisia , figs varieties in culture:some Tunisians, Mussega,col de dame noir, Bellone, Grise de saint jean, celestes, spanish Brevas.

JoF

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Posted 1431034669	Reply with quote #7

Does that mean that i can hope a cutting from your Violeta Fig when your tree will entre in dormancy Francisco?? You would make an happy man for sure.. (I can provide you cuttings of tunisian Fig variety wich will give very well in Portugal..) Keep the contact. Best wishes. JoF. __________________ I live between France and Tunisia , figs varieties in culture:some Tunisians, Mussega,col de dame noir, Bellone, Grise de saint jean, celestes, spanish Brevas.

lampo

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Posted 1431039400 · Edited	Reply with quote #8

Rafael, IMO they are the same fruit, may be with some very light mutations and/or characteristics as a result of pollination. Violeta traveled with the first settlers and monks to the three near Atlantic archipelagos back in the 14th and 15th centuries - Madeira / Açores and Canarias. Later, may have landed in California by the hand of immigrants from Madeira. There were some re-baptisms along the way but it can still be seen on all those archipelagos with different names JoF, Yes, you can hope, better, you will get some Violeta (just one 't') cuttings as soon as they go asleep and I cut them early next year.I shall be very happy to see this variety growing in Tunisia. The climate around Sousse is very similar to the land where Violeta comes from. The fruit shown on the above pictures, was pollinated . I believe that in Tunisia this is not a problem although it would ripe nicely even without it. I know Sousse from the many visits paid to the Gafsa mines back in the early 80's, driving from Tunis all the way south visiting my customers. Thank you very much for your offer for Tunisian cuttings.. that's very kind of you. Shall send you a PM soon. Francisco Portugal

JoF

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Posted 1431041711 · Edited	Reply with quote #9

Oh Francisco i am very impressed that you Know Sousse, you are wellcome if you return in the area i will make you a visit of the good places and will show you fantastics old Fig trees , I know a little Portugal because i was in Figueira da Foz (predestinated name!!)15 years ago, beautiful place and wonderful peoples.. Thank you very much for the cuttings of Violeta , i saw the pics it looks like an awesome variety very similar to Black madeira. Wait for your PM. Friendly. JoF. __________________ I live between France and Tunisia , figs varieties in culture:some Tunisians, Mussega,col de dame noir, Bellone, Grise de saint jean, celestes, spanish Brevas.

lampo

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Posted 1431070228	Reply with quote #10

JoF, Thank you very much for your kindness. PM was sent Francisco Portugal

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