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Breba vs. Main crop?

I know the Breba are the early crop but is there more to it? Are they always on last years wood?

and is the main always on this years new wood?

What time of year does the main crop usually start appearing (as in tiny figlets) not ripening?

Is there a time frame as to how long the Brebas take to ripen or do different ones take longer?

My BT has fruit that are mostly on the lower older limbs. I'm assuming these are Breba. If so when should I start seeing the Maincrop appear on BT?

Thanks for the answers!

This is first yr I'm seeing breba on my trees. VdB and KB both put out breba. VdB had breba around early March. Main showed up about month later. On KB, they were about week apart... in April. Both trees are going into their third yr.

I didn't see breba on Paradiso Gene or White Greek.

Breba is always on last years wood. They should show up earlier. The year, all the figs are much earlier than last year... I guess as trees mature, they put out figs early.. or it might be our crazy weather.

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As I understand it, yes breba always on old wood, main crop on new. Main crop apppearance has a lot to due with your zone, with the weather and of course tree maturity and variety. Actually with all those variables a hard question to answer. In your zone 8 I would expect you should be seeing main crops on most everything by now. Of course the presence of breba may also slow down main croop production, another variable.  If you're not seeing main crop in your zone it is likely due to young trees? Breba and main crop will attain a mature size and just sit there doing nothing for a long time and that time depends on those variables, especially temps. But always longer than you want to wait, then boom, they swell up in a couple days and you eat with a big smile. 

My Conadria put on breba after the main crop this year. I have eaten several main crop figs but the breba are not close to ripening yet. I have this happening on another one of my trees but I don't remember which right now. Oh yes I do, it's my Paradiso I got from Herman a couple of seasons ago. The tree is loaded with main crop figs and a few late breba.
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That's a little wierd to hear, could it be your zone and long summer?

I have no idea. They really surprised me on the Paradiso. The tree is bushy and I hadn't seen them when the first main crop figs were coming on. Then one day while looking closely inside the tree I found the breba. On the Conadria, since it such a large and open tree it was easy to spot them as soon as they got to be about quarter size.
"gene"

Now that I've thought about it a bit. I remember that the Paradiso had started to bud out but a frost killed the new growth. A few weeks later it stated budding out a little lower that the first buds that the frost killed. We had another frost and again the buds got killed. The thirds time was a charm and after it had all budded out and put on some main crop figs, the breba appeared on the lower part of the main trunk.
"gene"

I think that Gustav Eisen wrote the best explanation of this.


Here is the link to his book.  It is link # 270 on Jon's list.
Once the pdf loads see pages 101 and 104 of 371 (on the bottom of the screen).

In addition to the first (breba) crop and second (main) crop Eisen also says there is a 3rd crop which are the 2nd crop figs that survive through the winter and ripen the next year.  I have seen this happen on a Violette de Bordeaux tree.

There is a lot to read in that book!

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My BT has fruit that are mostly on the lower older limbs. I'm assuming these are Breba. If so when should I start seeing the Maincrop appear on BT?


On my BT this year,the breba figs started on March 10 and the main crop on May 02. I picked my first ripe breba on June 02.

I'm going to have to look a little harder at my BT. It has grown a bit this spring and what I assumed to be Breba may be main. The tree itself was just planted out last year so their may be no Breba due to the young age of the tree. It is still rather small only about three feet tall but with multiple (guessing 10) trunks. With our very mild Winter last year this could be new growth but it is well covered with lush green leaves. I'll take a closer look today.

Ok I looked and the figs are all on old wood which makes them Breba.

Now if this is a BT and they are Breba why don't I have a main crop?

We have had a very warm spring and many recent days have been in the 90's. We have had a good bit of rain and the trees all look very healthy! I have not fertilized this year and they received a two inch layer of horse manure compost late last fall, nothing else. All my trees have a four inch layer of leaf mulch.

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