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BURNING SWEET Marseilles - pics

Good day, today I pick my second brebra of the year!  YEA!  It's a Marseilles White.  This tree was labeled Hollier but I have another Mareilles White planted in my orchard and this fig taste very much like it but a true burning sweet taste.  Plus Marseille White produce early in my area.   It had do figgie taste just very sweet to the point of almost too sweet. 

Last year, I had this tree in a huge pot and it produced some figs but the taste was not good, and they were smaller.  This year, I planted it in the ground and am so glad I did.  WOW THE SWEETNESS IS SUPERB!  It not rich just sweet and it has some large crunchy seeds, the largest of any other figs I've tasted.  I have a lot more figs starting to ripen.  My wife even liked the taste of this fig....hmmmmm maybe she will start preferring white figs over black one.  Thanks for watching.  Cheers!

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Dennis,


Good looking fig, great photos......Thanks for posting.

Yes It is Marseilles White,aka Italian Honey,I wonder why someone will label it Hollier.?

Dennis, the seed crunch is very nice and the rich taste have tendency to hang around. Its a keeper variant for me and this year with the cooler weather, the brebas did not drop as many. Looks like I am headed to a good harvest by late July. Also, if you let it ripen just alittle more till the sugary brown spots appears, its a wow fig. I have 2 trees and 2 others(White fig & Ficazzana) are likely the same fig. I think they were mislabelled by Grimo. Overall its a reliable fig here.

Looks like you are headed for a good season. I would not see any ripe figs till mid to late July.

Oh yeah,  The memories of last years figs are coming back.  I forgot why I'm putting all this energy into growing figs after a long winter.  But now they're coming back.  That looks real good. 

Hi Herman.  Every time I read one of your post I learn something!

I have been wanting to get a Marseilles White for years, and I keep thinking "where can I get a Marseilles White" (from a reliable source of course; because too many are just whatever they send), and then I learn that the Marseilles White is a.k.a. "Italian Honey" and I have one of those growing in the orchard already!  From you!  ;-)

So this is very good news.  It is tough to see such a great fig without getting "fig envy" but this is the perfect cure for fig envy!

The Italian Honey is growing very well and should have a few fruits this year.

Great pictures Dennis.  Thank you for sharing these.

Best wishes to all.

John

John:French people call it Marseiiles white while Italian people call it Italian Honey.
Every group claim that it originated in their country solely .
It is such an old variety,that the true is that nobody can pinpoint from where it originates,but what is sure it is that it originates in western Asia,possible in the Garden of Eden,which was at the confluence of Tibre and Euphrate,Irak of Today.
Yes It has persistent breba that are as good as main crop.
But the climate has to have a long Summer to get ripe both crops.
Here the breba get killed by frost at the end of April.
This year only one Breba escaped frost and is growing,ok.

Hi Herman.

It is said that: "Success has many fathers; while failure is an orphan."

A very successful fig like this is no doubt going to have many people claiming that they are responsible for its origins.

I also associate figs with the Garden of Eden, and this is in large part why I love them so much. 

Since humans had to leave, I think we are all trying to get back to the Garden.  The figs give us a little window on Paradise.

Take care good friend, and best wishes to all.

John

Thanks Cecil.  You know.....I had my lips ready to taste a Hollier!  LOL  I can't be mad....based on how well this fig taste, I'm just glad the tree is healthy and producing some very sweet figs.

Herman I have no idea why it was labeled Hollier.  Now I want a Hollier!  Paully, I'm a little late with my tanglefoot.  The ants are starting to climb up my trees and investigate.  It's going to be hard to find a place down in my area open tomorrow that sells it, but I gota try.  Interesting figology Herman2.  I like it!   I have Marseilles White, Italian Honey, and Peter"s Honey growing side by side in my orchard.  :)  I gota know if these are the same tree.  I have no brebras on neither of my IH and PH.  IH and PH MIGHT be the same fig.  I will know for sure this year.  Both of my PH and IH are 3yrs old and I grew them in pots till this year.  Last year, both PH and IH are medium size figs while my MW are large light green exterior and white interior.  PH and IH are not ribbed, they are round like ping pong balls and turn yellow when ripe.

Some say Mareilles White are hard to root and I think they are right.  Several of my cutting last year failed except 2.  I'm gonna keep these in case mom dies this winter.  cheers, 

Hollier is very sweet and productive. It produces at a young age - on its 2nd season I got to sample quite a few figs. I planted an air-layered tree outside last season and winter protect it with dirt piled around the base. I intentionally kept branching short like pinching after every 4th leaf and I am convinced it pays off in hardening the wood. Its over 2ft tall and has very little tip kills. Its giving me some brebas. Definitely a keeper.

My Marseilles White has not yet fruited for me. However, my Marseilles Yellow has fruited and I am 100% certain that it is not the same fig as the one we call "Italian Honey" in my area.  Marseilles Yellow has the LARGEST seeds of any fig I have ever seen. The oil that is contained in those large infertile seeds give Marseilles Yellow a very PRONOUNCED nutty flavor which compliments the overall sweetness of this fig.  It is a very delicious tasting fig.  At this time, I do not know if Marseilles White and Marseilles Yellow are the same fig. Time will tell...........

Dan
Semper Fi-cus

  • Gif

I purchased a MW from Petals from the Past... it was about a foot tall and it still hasn't grown one centimeter.. I water it weekly and gave it 10 10 10 back in April...nothing.

Gif,

If you fertilize and water your tree properly IT WILL GROW. I grow lots of in ground fig trees. I've discussed this in several other threads how I fertilize and "deep water" my in ground trees. You may need to water more than once a week to insure that the ground ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS stays moist. IMO, you must deep water and you MUST get water down into that often dry "root ball area".....otherwise your fig tree will not grow much.  This is where many people make a BIG mistake and it needlessly causes little to no growth to occur on their fig tree.


It is my opinion which is based upon my own personal experiences, that one should focus on "root development" in the first few years of a fig trees life. You water to support the demands of the ROOTS and not just the demands of the leaves that are above ground. You cannot wait to see leaves wilting before you decide to water your in ground trees like many of the pot culture people do. Otherwise to do so will cause damage to occur on those tiny feeder roots.

Sooooo...........I cannot over emphasize how IMPORTANT it is to ALWAYS keep the ground moist (not soggy wet) after planting a new fig tree in the ground. This is WAY MORE important than fertilizer in the first year or two of a young fig tree's life. By deep watering you will penetrate the root ball and allow your tree to develop a LARGER root mass.....faster. This in turn will support a larger tree top which will bear fruit earlier. You should NEVER allow the ground to become too dry when a fig tree is "young". Fertilize your young tree with a water soluble fertilizer like MG and after it gets larger switch over to an 8-8-8 all purpose solid fertilizer. Follow the watering/fertilizing directions I have given elsewhere and I GUARANTEE that YOUR TREE WILL GROW and that it will produce figs at a younger age. 


Dan

We've had 97 degree temps the past 2 days and that means figs are getting ripe and growing strong.  I picked more brebas this morning on my White Marseilles.  See below.  I did what was requested and let a few figs start to turn get dark splotches and man ole man are these figs juicyHoly COW!  Very high sugar content.  I also weighed each brebra.  Here is how much each weigh:
 June 1st     June 2nd
 36g              46g
 22g              43g
 34g              46g
 35g              31g
 35g

This is going to be a good year for figs!  Cheers!

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I wanna see some insides.

I would have waited for even more brown spots (sugar spots?), personally. 

Jason, my tree is wide but pretty small and full of figs.  I don't want to kill the tree with all the brebra.  I did let 2 get some brown spots, they were the heaviest and juciest.

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