I ordered a Panachee and a VdB from Burnt Ridge this year. I think I got 2 VdBs. What do you think? One is definately NOT a Panachee. The leaves and fruit development are identical to eachother.

Sue

Be aware that this company did not respond to my email at all.
I bought a Saijo Persimmon,for $25+14 for shipping this Spring and only the rootstock grew,while the scion is dead.
I complained on 1st of July and no answer.
I think they are going the way other big companies went.
I am very dissapointed.
Best Regards

Definitely not a Panache. By the way, my Panache is 4-6 weeks early this year and better than it has ever been. Weather again.

Herman,
That's disheartening. I thought they were a reliable company. Fool me once...
I wonder now if they are even VdBs?

Jon,
Do you have any Panchee for sale? If so, I'll grab one when we get back from Davis. You, I can trust! :-)

Sue

Sue,

They do look like they could be VdB - the leaves are appropriate.

I don't have a Panache, currently, but have two nicely growing root suckers, which are hopefully rooting, and can be removed when the weather cools off. One is for a fellow in Michigan.

Herman, your comment about "other big companies" brought out a laugh from me.  Burnt Ridge is not and never has been a big company.  I visited with owner Michael Dolan at his place in June 2000 and it was interesting.  He is a nice guy, old hippie, not organized.  I am 99% sure that he does not grow any figs at his place as it is at a cold location in Washington.  Even his chestnuts are small plants as growing conditions there are not very good.  It seems that some things he sells are from Dave Wilson.  And I've learned recently from a San Diego contract grower that Dave Wilson contracts out the growing of their figs (and many other things) to other propagation nurseries.  So the mx up could have happened at several points.  As far as I know, Michael Dolan has a secretary that answers e-mails and his wife might help out also.  Your best luck would probably be with a phone call.

I got Atreano and VdB from Burnt Ridge this year. Atreano has been doing great (in fact the roots are already out of a 5 gal container planted in late May).

My VdB from Burnt Ridge, however, looks as badly affected as my new Davis VdB with regard to Mosaic.  (I did read on the GW forums that VdB is a particularily affected cultivar, though).  The BR VdB does have a couple small figs forming on it.

I can tell you that the two figs, VdB and Panachee do not resemble eachother as the ones in your pics (I got Panachee from Davis last year and have had pretty good success rooting it 3 of 4, but no figlets forming on this one yet).

I've found that phone calls are more successful this time of year  and emails more successful in the winter months with BR.

~Chills

Well Harvey:That is even worse:If the guy doesn't grow the plants itself,doesn't that make him a salesman and not a gardener.
Whom would you deal plants with ,:a salesman or a gardener.
Happy Gardening

From what I see it looks like neither of my VdBs has mosaic. When I contact BR I'll ask where they get their fig trees.

I went to Dave Wilson's wholesale site and they list what trees are available from which retail outlet. BR's order list for 2008 has no figs. Peaches, pears, apples, etc, but no figs from DW. That's not saying the list is accurate or up to date.

Sue

Herman, he does grow many things but I am under the impression he carries other products just to have a larger line and increase his sales.  He has many unusual things such as various nuts and berries.  He is in a heavily forested area (a fire in the area many years ago gave the area its name).  I believe Michael is very much a gardener.  He probably expanded into other areas to survive.  I checked his zip code and it says it's in zone 8, but I don't believe it.  He is higher up and it's probably colder than what is given for his zip code.

My first experience in chestnut grafting was born out of necessity.  I bought several different varieties I wanted to try from him about 8 years ago and one had a terrible union and the scion was almost completely broken off when it arrived.  I grafted it onto one of my established trees and it grew fine.  I've traded some things with Michael.  He is a nice guy but just has rough conditions, IMO.

Well Harvey :in my case,the union looked good when arived,but,the scion,went dead because it could not feed itself trough the union.
There could be nothing to be saved just the rootstock wich is of no value to me.
This is a total loss,and i have nothing to do with it.

I just spoke to BR and, as I thought, they are putting in a replacement order for me for next season. She also said she'd find out who their supplier is if they don't grow the figs themselves and let me know. She said it would be good for them to find out as well so corrections can be made.

Great service so far.

Sue

Glad to hear, Sue, please let us know how it works out.

Funny story about Burnt Ridge: when I visited Michael at his nursery in June 2000 he knew I was traveling with a travel trailer and camping but didn't say anything about his narrow roads, etc.  I had to park along the shoulder of the road (half on the road) and walk down into his place.  To leave, he told me to head on the direction I was pointing and it would work out.  He said to turn right after I go down a little hill.  I think that "hill" was something like a 10% or 12% grade and I just had to "let her rip".  Fortunately, the road was flat for a good distance before the turn.  I would not go there with a travel trailer again, probably.

After looking at my 2 VdB, its the Davis one that has figs forming, not the BR one.

The leaves on the two are pretty equally affected by FMV, though.

~Chills

go with Rolling River Nursery they are awesome!

NOTE:  This is an old thread I'm bumping to keep comments about the nursery all in one place.  Please don't be confused by the previous messages above.

I'd mentioned a couple months ago that I ordered from Burnt Ridge, one Atreano, Cordi (aka Stella) and Conadria.

I had a northeastern member that was so kind as to provide me Conadria cuttings in the meantime and they rooted like champs, and after looking into Atreano, I don't think I want one.  This left Cordi/Stella as the only fig that was interesting in the bunch.  Thankfully, BR hasn't shipped anything yet and wouldn't till April/May, so I called to cancel my order totally, since shipping one fig just isn't worth the money.

Talked to a man on the phone today.  He wasn't in front of a computer and I didn't have the order # handy (lost last few weeks of email due to mail store corruption), so he took my name and said he would cancel the order.  He was very friendly.  Overall, it was pretty painless, which sometimes scares me, but I feel OK about it this time.

I am accepting it on blind faith that the order will turly be cancelled.  I guess I'll know for sure if I don't get plants, and dont' get charged (no charge yet).  I noticed that, even after logging into the site, they don't seem to give many back-end customer options, I can't seem to find a 'recent orders' section tied to my profile.

Overall, it was a good buying experience, though.  I just never got to see the product.

And ... now I'm on the hunt for Stella/Cordi cuttings!

I really considered picking up a cherry tree from them.  I got a 7gal Montmorency locally at Johnson for $42 week before last, and have a bareroot Stella (cherry, not fig) on the way in the next week or two.

Rounding things out in the yard ....

I got a Atreano a while back from burnt ridge and it was great, not sure why is would be bad now:

Jose, your picture is the one that made me want to get it previously, it looks yummy ;) 

After reading around, though, it sounded like many people felt it was more of a "mediocre" fig, or it may take a few years to come to put out incredible fruit. 

Personally, I'm not usually a fan of green figs with light colored flesh.  I'm a dark fig fan, dark skin, dark flesh.  Purple, black mainly.  Most of my collection reflects that, but .... I've taken in a couple of lighter figs like Kadota, Conadria, Hollier and Latarrula on the suggestion of others who swear these will change my mind about green/yellow figs.  (I guess we will see!)

I'm not one to disciminate based on skin color, since the fig flavor is most important, I just find that most darker skinned figs have the perfect juiciness, sweetness and richness for my preference.  I like a lot of figs, but I usually LOVE the dark ones.

RE Panachee:
Last summer I did have a scare of a "faded" label (lost) fig?
After some "elimination" finding out - [DUH!] the young
twings ARE characteristic variegated (sometimes not too obvious).

Jason no yoiu have light figs and dark shame on you !  ; )
Like a Cubs fan liking the White Sox
or a Yankee fan liking the mets.
All in fun but im too stubborn to change now and start getting interested in them white sox no no im mean light figs.

Think i have room for 1 more dark fig !

I bought the larger trees and they fruited for me that year. It may have to do with my climate, but this tree that year was one of the best.

My atreano from belleclares has a red interior and is larger than the one pictured.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2wbxfra.jpg

Atreano is on the left, guess the other 2.

What is the one in the middle?

Kadota,  didnt do so great in my climate.  Prone to splitting and souring but what bumper crops!