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Can Anyone Identify these two fig trees?

Okay, so I'm brand new to the love of figs.  About six years ago, a friend gave me and my husband two fig trees, in pots.  I love gardening, but my experience was limited to landscaping, flowers, etc.  The trees were very dramatic and I gave them a spot not well suited (I now know) to fruit production--too much shade.  I live in Dallas, and this spring, for some reason, each of the trees produced what I believe was a breba crop of two figs each!  Big deal, huh?  My husband and I split them, and I was suddenly a believer because they were SO good.  The trees were moved into a sunny spot, and now one tree has 16 figs, and the other about 30.  I was so excited, I bought another tree, a Jack Black and will be picking its first fruit this evening.  In the three weeks or so since the breba figs, I've been reading everything I can get my hands on to educate myself.  I still have no idea what kind of figs the two trees are. 

One, though the figs are still small, about 1" in size, has a red blush covering half the fruit on the stem end and has had that color for about two weeks.  I can't find anything which addresses that type of coloring.  Pictures attached.  Any help would be great!

I'm new at attaching pictures but I'll try.  The first picture has the current fruit with the blush.  The breba was dark purple/black when we ate it. The next picture is of the whole tree the dark fig came from.

Next is the current fruit on the tree which produced a green breba.
And then the whole tree.

Next is my new tree, Black Jack, from which I am picking the fruit pictured this evening.

Help.  And thanks in advance from a hooked Newbie!








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Here is a very good link to see what you have!

Good luck with your new Trees.

Welcome to the land of JOY, Nightspell!

Sharing a fig is an easy thing, but try sharing a lone blueberry!

I'm sure you'll find out what fig trees you have.  Can the friend who gave them to you help you out?

Suzi

Wow.  Thanks everyone. The friend has no idea what kind they were, nor where he got them.  One might have been from an old tree his grandma had in west texas, but can't remember.  The other was purchased, but he does't remember from where.

I've been asked for additional pictures so here we go. First is the blushed fruit tree and leaves.  Second is the green fruit tree and leaves.  Again, any help will be appreciated!

Thanks again.

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Nightspell:The first and second pixes are not Brown Turkey figs as the pix information imply.
I need close up of the leaves to tell you for sure what it is.
Send me a private Email with details of leaves,and your mistery fig will have a name .

Well, not sure if this will help you, but check the shape of the leaves here.  It seems yours are 3 lobed, indicating Constantine, or it's relatives.

Suzi

How come in the first pix in the original post the fig fruits are blushed with color and in the last post ,last pix the fruits can be seen in top of fig tree and they are totally green?
Any way I will give you a name I think your tree is.
It is Petite Negri,as it should be, and not how some Nurseries sell it today,when it is Identical to Aubique Petite originating at Pierre Baud in France.
You got a true Petite Negri

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Originally Posted by Herman2
Nightspell:The first and second pixes are not Brown Turkey figs as the pix information imply.
I need close up of the leaves to tell you for sure what it is.
Send me a private Email with details of leaves,and your mistery fig will have a name .

Not being a Brown Turkey is a good/Great thing Nightspell!

So I am  learning!!!   Brown Turkey seems to be a dirty word!!!   I just used that name because it was brown--to identify the pictures for purposes of uploading.  Didn't know I was cussing!  :-)

Nightspell,


You weren't cussing!   I too live in the Lone Star state, So I reckon I would know cussin when I hear it!   HEHE>    And a belated "Welcome to the best fig forum on this planet. 

Nightspell,

Welcome to the Figs4Fun Forum.

Several references might help you, or they might confuse you:  "Fig Varieties: A Monograph" by Ira Condit (see my website for a downloadable PDF), Ray Givan's website where he shows Hugh Starnes' proposed Fig leaf classification system (circa 1905) which hasn't taken hold, and "FigLink1110" (downloadable as a PDF http://www.figs4fun.com/Links/FigLink1110.pdf ).

You will find that there has been much confusion about Variety names for hundreds of years.  I proposed using the internet to create a digital photo Fig Identification System but have had no takers!  When the dominant leaf form, a whole Fig, and a Fig sliced along the axis through the neck and eye are shown together, it could be the best ID system short of Genetic Fingerprinting which has severe limitations due to cost.  Your comment about why you called the first Fig "Brown Turkey" is indicative of why there is so much confusion!

Please note that the UC Davis collection which is the source for "FigLink1110" shows several synonyms for "Brown Turkey" which includes "California Brown Turkey" ("San Piero" according to Condit), and "Black Jack" which wasn't a named variety in 1955.  What that tells me when compared to Condit's Monograph and other information sources is that the UC Davis collection contains several mislabeled trees :( 

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Leaves are often meaningless.  Post pics of the ripe fruit (inside and out) with a coin for reference.  Fruit properties speak volumes, leaves can only give wild-ass-guesses at best (99% of the time).

Okie-dokie!   I'll do that!  Thanks.

They are not meaningless to me:
The Black Fig is Petite Negri,and the green fig is Green Ischia.

Wow!  You've all been so helpful.  Thanks.  When the fruit ripens, I will post pictures.

Can y'all (yes, I'm Texan) identify another for me?

This tree belongs to my neighbor, bears huge crops every year and he doesn't know what kind it is.  He's offered me cuttings, but if it is the "dreaded" Brown Turkey, I'm not sure I want them.  So here's a picture of the tree, the leaf and the fruit.  

Is it the BT?


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It is a Celeste,and I am sure of it.
If it gets a lots of fruits out of it,That is good because I can assure you is delicious when ripe.

I agree with Herman (whats new Huh?)


Nightspell, if it is a Celeste the eye will turn from green to red right before it gets ripe!

Around here the Celeste ripens in the middle of July!

When I first fell in love with my newly discovered Petite Negri and Green Ischi, I began to try to learn about fig culture!  I read a lot and did several things! 

1) They had been in the same pot for six years so I fertilized with Osmocote.
2)  I mulched it heavily.
3)  I tested the pH of the soil.  It was about 6.5, so I am prepared to add some lime.  However, I had read somewhere that one should not fertilize and use lime at the same time.  Would you agree with that?  If so, when should I add lime.  I have aged manure - should it be added now.  Fruits are about 1" at present.  When would you expect them to ripen in the Dallas area?

Thanks so much!

I respect the opinions of others but would reserve judgment and avoid naming until the point that all evidence is supplied and a consensus is reached.  One man's guess does not a name confirm.


I do agree the last one looks like a Celeste Variant, but that also opens it up to being an LSU variety or a few others.  Ripe fruit inside and out should be considered.

I fertilize and lime at the same time with no problems. I use Osmocote as well.


For DFW area weather I would expect Breba early July and Main at the end of August, but depends on weather.

I would check that root ball and see if it's root bound especially if it's been 6 years.

Thanks!
The breba on both trees was about three weeks ago.  That's when I fell in love!!!  :0)  Thanks for the info on lime.  I'm afraid to check the root ball right now since fruit is on the tree.  Would that make the fruit drop?  Thot I would do that this winter.

Also, what about the manure?  Just top dress?

I already got one fig from my new Black Jack.  It was awesome, although I think I picked it a day too soon!  Another should ripen today or tomorrow! I'll try to be a bit more patient.   Picture below!

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If you can ever get Mushroom compost or Rabbit manure, those are great dressings. I would just top dress but make sure it's cooked completely or you'll burn the heck out of it.


Leave it for now. I have had root bound trees either drop figs or not form them at all

Wow!  I've really been bitten by the Fig bug.  Evidently trees are mislabeled all the time, according to what I have been reading. 

Would like help again with identification.  I bought two trees, supposedly a Celeste and a Peter's Honey.  Photos attached.  Can anyone confirm that I got what I bought?  Also snitched a leaf off my grandmother's tree, which was her mothers.  She doesn't know what it is.  Can anyone identify it.  Maybe I'll try to root a cutting this fall!  Last photo attached. 

Thanks. 

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The first 2 are Celeste and Peter's Honey.
Peter Honey is sometimes Identical to Kadota,so this one seem to be,too.
The grand mother fig can't ID,becaUSE THAT TYPE OF LEAF IS FOUND ON MORE THAN ONE CULTIVAR.

Finally, a picture of the ripening fruit on the tree thought to be a green ischia based on leaf and upripe fruit.  Any thoughts as to whether this does indeed appear to be a green ischia?  I wasn't expecting it to color-up so much -- thought it would stay green!

Thanks.

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