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EBay # 322229218115 Jolly Tiger cuttings not variegated. Why would you show a pic of variegated? Is non variegated a panache? I think the seller is out of country and you won't receive until October. At this time it is $59 and 38 bids. I don't understand this.

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The seller states in the description, and in bold type, that the photos were from the previous year and that this year the leaves came back not variegated. Seller further states in the description, again in bold type, that the plant has reverted back to solid colour. I do not proclaim that I am a fig expert, in fact, quite the contrary. I am curious as to how you came to the conclusion that the advertisement is a scam when the seller has given such disclosure. 

But why would you put a pic of a Jolly Tiger when its not? What's the purpose? I believe the seller is out of the country and you will not receive until October.

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Originally Posted by Figfanatic57
But why would you put a pic of a Jolly Tiger when its not?


Genetically it still may be a Jolly Tiger, though it might have been better advertized as a JT "sport". Whilst I am new to figs, I have grown variegated plants such as hostas and peppers for decades and know from prior experience that a authentic variegated variety can in fact lose its variegation. I shan't attempt to explain the hows or whys as I am not adept at such things, but hopefully this site can explain some of the reasons that could be behind it: 

http://www.gardeningknowhow.com/plant-problems/environmental/variegated-plant-problems.htm

Regarding the delayed shipping, keep in mind that many growers take their fig cuttings in the Autumn, hence the cuttings are not available until October or later. This does not constitute the seller being out of the country or a scam. 

In saying all of this, you may be correct. I do not know. What I do know is I have seen more than one seller's reputation sullied simply due to misinformation or lack of knowledge of the reporting party. People should be sure, without any doubt, and be willing to bet their reputation, before accusing someone of unethical practices, else it may come back to haunt them. But at the same time, unethical sellers should indeed be exposed without hesitation. If any of the members here on the forum have a prior experience with the seller in question, please chime in.
Cheers.   

I do not know any of the parties involved. I do however grow jolly tiger and this year some of my shoots reverted. It is still a jolly tiger. It did not become another fig. I would not sell something now myself to be shipped in October. That part is a little weird.

I read the post and it seems perfectly legit. He clearly states in raised letters what he has just so no one overlooks the facts. Jolly Tiger is a chimera and even with the best of efforts is no assurance that cuttings will be variegated. Perhaps over time variegation will reappear.

This seller robrod815 is a huge scammer. I was scammed last year on what was said to be Dall ' Osso cuttings. Lesson learned.

If you want a Jolly Tiger buy it from a trustworthy source. Order from Harvey, Bass, Figirific or plant-creator

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This seller robrod815 is a huge scammer. I was scammed last year on what was said to be Dall ' Osso cuttings. Lesson learned.


Bummer. :(   What did the fig end up looking like?

I have 2 JT that reverted back and if you want cuttings contact me in the fall.

JT requires lots of work to keep variation varigation

Here's a picture of 3 Jolly Tigers that lost there variegation I just messing around with them seeing what they will do if you notice the one in the front put out in all yellow limb that will never survive I had 2 other ones that actually pushed out a variegated limb at the bottom but thats pretty rare once they go all green theres usually no going back 


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Hi Dave,
Those trees seem to lack some sun - I could be wrong of course.
A variegated plant needs sun to keep variegation or they turn to full green. I had that happen on other stuff, not figtrees.
Worth a try. Put one in full sun and see if it gets back to variegated.
The one with the white shoot, I would cut it halfway (like a giga-pinch ) and put her full sun and see if the new buds come out variegated.

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JD they could of used full sun because they grew  spindly in the greenhouse "very thin trunk" the tree that has the white leaves I could probably cut the green limb off and pinch the white limb and possible whatever emerges maybe variegated 

You need to keep Jolly Tigers out of direct sunlight otherwise all the white or light portions  of the leaves will burn off 

Heres some nice Jolly Tigers that I am growing 

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They look great!!! When are they going on eBay?

Update: I put an eBay ad up for not variegated Jolly Tigers. About everything was about the same as aforementioned ad, but 3 days instead of one and a pic of not variegated JT. Mine only sold for $30. The previous ones sold for $59 & $46 using the variegated pic.
Come to find out the buyer was interested in variegated. I promptly refunded.
Conclusion: I think most people don't know what variegated means.

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Originally Posted by Figfanatic57
Update: I put an eBay ad up for not variegated Jolly Tigers. About everything was about the same as aforementioned ad, but 3 days instead of one and a pic of not variegated JT. Mine only sold for $30. The previous ones sold for $59 & $46 using the variegated pic.
Come to find out the buyer was interested in variegated. I promptly refunded.
Conclusion: I think most people don't know what variegated means.


Yes that English language can be tricky. And really, who has time to read? I can just bid on any eBay auction and complain later.

very pretty tigers     mine is still tiny after two years but very stripey

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