Thanks Herman for your comment. I just tried a ripe CdDG fig (from you via Harvey) (picture above) and the color was dark red, thin skinned, intense looking with a nice acid flavor but it along with the other few figs it produced this first year were disappointing in sweetness. It's good to know that older trees will produce better tasting figs in the years to come. My CdDN from an older tree and another source was very good, among the best I've tasted this year.