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CHRISTMAS IN AUGUST

i came here just to find out how to keep my adorable little chicago happy but i started hanging around  and , i started thinking she might need a companion. THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT.

when danny [dkirtexas] sent me around to brian [cajunb] i didn't realize they  were hatching a sinister plot, innocent that i am.   

then brian   taught me that celestes  really do taste like honey, so i had to have one. the price of tissue cultured plants was so low, i got an lsu purple at the same time.

my mom warned me about everything imaginable and when she'd done that, she made up stuff to warn me about. but she forgot to warn me about tree crazed fig addicts and their effect on an impressionable girl. the effect was fairly major, because right after placing that order i started thinking about waiting years and years for fresh figs.

so when joe morle told me he had two varieties with no visible signs of fmv i scooped them up, one paradisio and one black triana. [yeah, yeah, i know i'm crazy for wanting to stay away from fmv, but so what? i'm having fun.]

they all just came! i did a happy dance when i saw how beautiful they are.

what in the world am i gonna do with 5 figs? well, you guys got me into this, so kindly give me some help.

i need to isolate the morle trees  which certainly have some form of fmv [see, i've been listening].

but noone defines isolation. can i just put them down wind? or, if it's distance, how far apart must they be?  do i have to build a wall? i can't afford brick and i'm pretty sure bob wire won't slow virus down much..  i wanna do this right.

so, please tell me what to do.

<---will be watching this thread with interest!

You are going to drive yourself mad if you worry about the virus.

Congrats on the trees!

I'll tell you what to do with your 5 figs if you tell me what to do with my over 100.

LOL. Nice story

The Queen folds

come on guys. somebody's gotta know how to isolate figs. i know you do it, 'cause i've heard you talk about it.

oh, thanks for the positive comments, and rafed, the queen did indeed fold.

Susie,

I'll tell you, but not right now. I'm a bit busy;)

i can wait.....

Susie,

I have over two hundred figs. If not more.
Very difficult to isolate one from another.

But in your case I would just keep them as far away from each other as I can. That's the only advice I can give you.

Good luck

Years ago i worried about the virus . After years of growing figs i learned some things and still learning but have
CRS - (cant remember sqat).

To really know for sure if plant has the virus it has to be tested as some can look healthy then a season or 2 later it can display.
The virus also hides as quick example my VdB displays it in spring and it wanes and hides almost to where its not noticeable but not all fig plants do this .

Some can be a host and look healthy all the time and then bada bing one makes an airlayer and its shows in the airlayer.

Oversea's popular nurseries have it this i can attest to.
Some of the very best varieties have it, grown in container (forced) virus will show much more easily then if grown in ground.

In short what can you do ?
Have some sort of test done not sure where or the expense to verify if plant is infected.
If not infected grow healthy verified plant under glass .
Why ?
There is some sort of bug and the name escapes me that can chew on an an infected plant then infect a healthy plant, some say it can be also transmitted by pruning infected plant then going to a healthy plant next and pruning if thats true then perhaps many types of chewing bugs can do the same i dont know.

FMV= fig mosaic virus
TMV =tobacco mosaic virus
there are other types of mosaic virus as well such as in squash , cucumbers etc.
Can they be transmitted over to fig plants by the chewing bug mentioned above i dont have the knowledge to give definitive answer.

I personally grow fig plants that do have the virus and enjoy some of the best tasting figs for my personal palate.

thanx rafed.  this place is416' wide, so in theory, i could keep them that far apart. but anything past the length of the hose is gonna mean hand carrying water every single day. oh well, if i gotta, i gotta.

The length of the hose should be fine. Not saying it will be 100% effective though, at any length.
More like preventative steps.

martin, i may be bug free as i don't think there's another fig in 50 miles. so,  no need to isolate other trees from my tissue cultured ones?

Susie,  maybe you should consider potting them. Once their FMV symptoms subside, you can bring them closer to the house. They do come beautifully packaged from Joe.

The bugs he's talking about don't just eat fig leaves and even if they did, they could chew your infected one and then have a snack on the healthy one.

beautifully packaged elizabeth? there was cardboard to cut then tape then pipie cleaners i couldn't unravel.  ended up using a knife, a razor blade and needle nose pliers, with which i worked  myself into exhaustion.
rafed, hose length sounds better.they can be at each end of the house. does wind direction matter? i was thinking the tissue cultured [possibly] virus free trees had to be up wind?

oh, the seller claims fmv free, so they might be. pretty sure my tissue cultured CH is, but i'm not paying for tests.

i do wish i could have a very infected tree and an identical virus free tree to plant identically and keep notes. that would be a fun expiriment.

Susie, if you have seen the way other fig plants were packed when they land on my front door, you'll know what is good and what isn't.

tami, so the bugs can be where no figs have ever been? curses!

oh, lizabeth, i'm not complaining, just nattering on. the trees were in remarkable condition.

I think suzieqz has been bitten by the bug. You're one of us now. Be prepared for your friends and family to constantly roll their eyes at the mere mention of figs!

nobody knows for sure how the FMV is transmitted. some say there is this mite that chew on the leave. if one specific insect is the only possible way to transmit FMV, then that would be that. but if the virus doesn't need specific host to move it around, pruning shear, any plant chewing bug or just plain bad luck can cause an issue.

really... don't sweat over FMV. life is too short for that. beside, once you start rooting your own cuttings, you'll be surprise how many so called virus free trees will show FMV during stress.

and if you want the king of the figs, Black Madeira, its source is USDA/UCD. everything from there will have FMV. Black Madeira grows slowly here, but with good number of figs.

you will notice some members getting rid of heavily infected trees, but BM always stick around.

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I don't worry about FMV.

Susie QQQQQQQQQQQ ...


The bug bit you hard.

Wait till next season rolls around, you will buy more trees.  It's a pattern we all follow.  I had two-three trees, and I said:  ... "NO MORE, I DON'T HAVE THE ROOM"....  Now, I have twelve, and two more are on the way.  I still have no room for them all.

Enjoy the sickness.


Frank

hi guys, im sorry I haven't been responding. something bd happened to my computer. like, if I type a letter, it opens print. no commands are obeyed, system restore won't work, Norton cant find a virus, so all morning I tried to fix it with no luck. finally, I gave up, and got this netbook out.

pete, thanks for menytioning disinfecting tools. I forgot, I rely on your posts. they are always helpful. 

kk, I,d like to correct a false impression. some people think that because I;m tring  an experiment  that I don't believe all I learned here, NOT TRUE! I BELIEVE JONS RESEARCH AND I KNOW  ALL TREES ARE INFECTED. except for my tissue cultures. by the way, tissue cultures are being marketed as fmv free. don't you think I should check this so I can let you know if they lie?

so many of my friends here tell me that fmv is no problem and one can get good bearing trees out of infected plants. I BELIEVE YOU! I know I can get infected treesto work. there is no question in my mind;
I will not challenge the stuff you teach me and this experiment has nothing to do with my trust in you.

i'm just having fun

by the way frank those last 2 trees are your fault. you sent me to morle. I gotta say,  dealing with joe, you gotta be firm and push push push to get what you want. but I did. and, why shouldn't I be happy becuause I made him give me trees with no visible signs? I've read great reports of how black triana tastes, and it looks like and the paradisio was made for this area. it should work here better than anyplace. there won't be any splitting here.

Susieqz

I keep my trees that don't show in the back yard, and trees that show on the side of the house. After they go dormant, they all go in the garage together. Luckily I don't have any bugs that are interested in eating my fig trees. Earwigs will go to where I have picked a ripe fig and feed off of the stem remnant though. So, I feel for the most part I only have to seperate as far as an earwig will travel, which isn't far. We also tend to get damaging hail at least once a summer, so I figure two trees in close proximity would likely share any infections they may have during the bashing.

 Likely your not done aquiring. You will find more varieties you NEED, look around your yard and realize that you have room for just one more. Then you will repeat the process again, and again,...

thanks, calvin 
  get this; the viruses on the  net found out I don't like virus in general. they promptly colpnized  my computer and wrecked it.

iI HATE ALL VIRUS OF ANY KIND ONLINE OR OFF!!

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