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Thanks, Aporto! Great info! I had to rescue my cuttings and am now growing in bags. I'm sure I can go back to the cloner at some point. However, as a newbie, I don't want to take the chance now with cuttings that are so precious to me.
Doug: This may be a silly question but how do you use the cloner for tomatoes? James: I'm sorry you have lost cuttings to the cloner. I am sure I lost several...they went to mush also. However, I am an optimist so I believe that when I put them into the bag, they will return to life! :-D I'm still waiting for a sign of life...
DanW, your post got me thinking and made me do more research and now I am more confused than ever. I added the HTH in the hopes of replicating City water, as I am sure many city folk are successfully growing plants using chlorinated tap. I found this regarding CL levels in drinking water:
The Environmental Protection Agency, EPA, regulates the amounts of contaminants in water. While chlorine is added to the water, it is still considered a contaminant. The EPA allows up to 4 ppm of chlorine in drinking water. Did you know that chlorine levels in pools are supposed to be kept between 1.0 ppm and 3.0 ppm to maintain a healthy pool? It is interesting that pool water chlorine is kept lower so that skin or eyes won’t burn or itch, but drinking water is up to 4 ppm.
My 2nd run is going much better. This time I left out the nutrient solution, opting for just straight tap water with a little rooting gel on the cuttings. Here are some pics from last night after 1 week in the cloner:
Smyfigs, I used a rockwool cube in the net cup.Doug
Week 6 . Just rinsed and reset the cloner. Good roots and shoots all around. I actually cut many roots off at 6", as I don't like them dangling in the water.
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Thanks, Matt. The temp is in the low/mid 70's.
I hope someone can talk me off the bridge right now, hopefully Dennis can chime in with all his expertise ;) Or others who have experience similar to the pictures below.I am 1 day short of 3 weeks in the cloner and still have no roots growing but a good amount of leaf growth going for almost all the cuttings. I'm just getting nervous that i'm going to lose all that beautiful top growth due to no roots. I'm contemplating putting some of the cuttings into the coir bag method that worked well for me to save these cuttings. I have it on a timer 15on/15off, I'm keeping the lights on it 24/7 now until i get root growth, then will transition to 18on/6off.Should i keep it in cloner???? It looks like i got a lot of root primordia on the cuttings - but they are browning. Not sure if thats providing nutrients to the foliage in the meantime.
Mine are having the opposite problem, either no activity of roots growing out of the tops and bottoms, but no leaves
Those are lenticels, not roots with 1 possible exception that I can't see clearly. There's one with what looks like mold or some kind of deposit. Up top that long white thing may be a root, I can't tell.
Are you using any disinfectant? Is the water slimy? I'd get those cuttings out and into a method that's worked well for you but disinfect the bottoms first. Try dabbing your disinfectant of choice on 1 lenticel first to see if it damages it. If it does let them dry a little first so the lenticels recede before disinfecting.
Thanks Mai, holding off to do so till i hear from others who've been using this method to see if they had similar results and if i should jump ship now.Bob - That is the only culprit left with the slimy stuff on it. What you see above on that cutting is the same as others, not a root.The water is good, not slimy at all. All cuttings were cleaned with anti-bacterial soap prior to being in the cloner. I just dont want to jump ship if this is normal prior to roots starting.
Just leave them alone. They will root you guys have to learn patience. Leaf grow sometimes happens. Soon you will have rooted trees. Those young leaves will fall off and more will come. Just be patient.
Quick!!! 5ml per liter in your Reservour of 3% hydrogen peroxide. Keep your temps low. Put a frozen 2 liter bottle of water in there. 65degree water temps. Then, be patient. Should get better within the week..
Yes, looks normal to me.
Seeing first roots in cloner (fig roots) and in damp moss boxes only 14 days.Panachee first one to root in cloner nothing on any of the rest yet but hoping they will start popping roots quickly. Should I leave in cloner till roots get longer or can I take out now and start putting in cups?
I suspect you will see a considerable amount of visible growth for every 24 hours you leave them in
Ok guys, again, you're taking this hydrogen perioxide thing WAY too far. I go days and some months and don't add any. All I do is this...... 1. Fill up the cloner with tap water 2. Plug in the pump. 3. Don't bother the cuttings for days. 4. Week 2 I add a half a teaspoon of HP. 5. Every third day, add a half a teaspoon of HP. That is it! Some cuttings will root in days, others will root is weeks....it really depends on the cutting's health and freshness. My cuttings are STILL in my cloner. Here are mine a month a go and I know these plants have roots all the way down to the water. At this point they are ready to pot up and are being fed daily with the T5 lights running on a 8hr 24/7 timer. Don't over think this. With LOVE. Cheers,