What system you got.

Before joining this forum I had never heard of 'cloning'.  I think I grasp what is being recommended here, but can anyone point to a good article or reference on the subject?

Thanks!

Cloning really just means taking a part of a plant and producing a plant from it... in this case we are using a mist or bubble method. There is a lot of good info, some of the more detailed on the cannabis sites... 

Hi eebone,
Well cloning is not really the right word here but is used for shorting the phrase: "a way of reproduction/multiplication that raises siblings that are supposed to be identical to the parent".
So here, people are referring to taking cuttings and rooting them .
Well this is the theory and there is the real life that shows that even by cloning sometimes you don't get the exact copy of the original living "thing" because at some point some genes will get altered in one or more siblings
and that sibling will not be the copy of its parent .
But theory is, you clone a living thing and get exact copies of that living with that process - be it a vegetable or an animal.
This is to oppose to sexual reproduction where siblings get genes from two parent living "things" and so are not copies either of the father nor of the mother .

Cloning as a theory is a great deception as a former school boy as when you look at cloned cats, their coats are not identical - Cloned cats and cows get stains at different places on their coats with is weird and
for me not true to the original cloning theory as I had understood it.
Cloning is already used in farms to copy champion animals . Think of cattle, horses, cats, dogs with special and sharp abilities like strong smelling capacity for custom dogs.

Out of topic but, by the way, I saw a reportage last month that on your side of the pond, you are already buying meat from such cloned cattle ... Bon appétit !

They even have a cloning machine that expresses the hot air that gets built up in the machine. It uses a fan to express the air.

This thread has me searching for cloners. I don't plan on rooting much or many at a time. Can anyone recommend a good smaller cheaper system or diy system?

I started with the Oxyclone   https://www.google.com/shopping/product/6769896641981974842?espv=2&biw=1304&bih=824&q=oxyclone&spell=1&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.80120444,d.eXY&tch=1&ech=1&psi=a1JtVI1dhaWDBNXgg-gE.1416450630939.5&sa=X&ei=cVJtVKqJDcirNsCpgFg&ved=0CGgQuSQ

I just used cheap airstones instead of the pump that came with it..

nice set up Dennis, will give it a try myself....luke

Follow up to my experience on page 1:
I never developed roots more than 1/8" long after a month of well water only and a cap of hydrogen peroxide every few days but the ph was affecting the leaf color (going yellow). I never changed the water which still did not smell or have any slime. I also never had to top it off since the container was sealed so well and the leaves were not very big.

I decided at that point to take them out, remove the leaves and put them in sphagnum. I had roots in a day. Took them out, put in seedling starter mix in peat pots. I should have up potted the one pictured sooner. All are growing and none died.

I'll try spring water instead next time (less hard than my well water) and only use the bubbler for a week before placing into moss. It would probably work well for cuttings coming out of cold storage for rehydration.

 
 

Update 11/14/15

On October 9th, I placed 2 types of cuttings inside my cloner. Six Grisse de' Olivette and 6 Napolanta Negra. Today, I potted up 6 of them. The roots were crazy long! Here are a few pictures of 3 potted and 3 getting ready to be potted. I should have potted these up 2 weeks ago but I wasn't ready.

Gofigure how did you make the coffee can cloner do u have a post about it?

Looks great Dennis, now im anxious to get my cloner up and running now i see these 5 week results. Kudos!

I'm in the clone zone too.  One problem I have noticed is that the PH needs to be regularly adjusted and the water temp is staying higher than I'd like. Anyone else notice their PH levels moving toward basic constantly?  Still though, the plants are growing well, lots of root initials, and a couple decent little roots popping up.  Like Snaglpus said, the fresher the cutting the better.  I stuck a couple green ones in there and had nice little root initials in 3 days.  Also they seem to like the Hydrogen Peroxide additive.

Yes, Hydrogen Peroxide additive helps a lot! Nice job!

What'd does the peroxide do?

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How much Hydrogen Peroxide do you recommend? I started with a 5 gallon bucket.

I built my cloner in October. I have leaves and root initials but no roots yet.

Add a tablespoon every 3 days. But good luck using that 5 gallon bucket! The cuttings I tested in the 5g bucket ALL died. The water was too hot and unable to regulate. Good luck.

Hi Dennis,
Thank you.

My 5 gallon bucket has no heat at all. I started it with some confederate rose (Hibiscus Mutabilis) cuttings. They all have leaves and root initials, but no roots yet.

I need to start another cloner for fig cuttings.

The water in my 5 gallon clone bucket is 19C (66.2F). I have a submersible pump in the bucket.
Is that too cool for roots to grow? Should I  add a heater? My cuttings are happy. They are growing leaves. The roots are just taking their sweet time. I am not in a hurry.

I think that is a little too cool for good rooting, but maybe your results will prove different. Lets hope so.  The problem with growing leaves without rooting is that the vegetative growth uses up moisture, energy, and nutrients that could be used to grow roots.  When you see green growth and no roots then the countdown begins.  It is a race to see whether your cutting will root before the vegetative growth sucks the life out of your cuttings.  Sometimes you win, sometimes you loose.