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my wife cleans everything with this stuff. i usually get them at sam's club in bulk.

i noticed noticed mold on the cuttings i started about a week ago. i took them out and soak them in bleach solution again, that didn't help.

but few days ago, i didn't feel like making the solution and repacking them, so i just wipe the molded aread with clorox wipe and now no more mold. i'll watch it too see if they come back again.

maybe the strength of the bleach is higher in those wipe.
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I just looked and they say Bleach free. But one ingredient is considered an Algaecide and the other one seems related to it. maybe your on to something but is the other 99% is the concern.  Probably just alcohols and fillers.
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Maybe mold got resistant to clorox. I know when I clean (doing move-outs) there is no remedy for black mold. the only way to clean is by cutting the caulking, allow it to dry completely. My manager says no clorox, no water... brings the hot dryers - and he wipes with those wipes and new caulking is put in place, or the mold continue to grow underneath.  so, it makes sense, when washing the mold of cuttings, actually the water feeds it more. perhaps drying it off completely is the key, here the wipes did the drying - Good for you Pete!

I received a cutting that had mold in it. I did not wash it, I wiped and let it dry completely- I wiped a couple more times, and do not allow that mold to grow....these cuttings are like babies.. must monitor them, feed, clean and make sure they sleep through the night...
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Clorox wipes have alcohol and benzalkonium chloride in a water solution.  The solution is mild and is a reasonable surface wipe for bacteria and fungus, but not in the same power or danger level as bleach.  "Bleach" is  a solution of sodium hypochlorite, a different beast all together.
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it's been about 4 days, still no mold on the spot where they used to have that fuzzy stuff. so it's working for now. it's been about a week since they went into the bag. Ischia Green is putting out leaves. need to check on the roots. last time i completely forgot about the cuttings and the roots were about 3 inches long and all stuck on the paper towel. i broke about half of them and kill the rest by stripping the root "sheath" thing. but the cuttings bounced back after being in the cup.
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http://www.amazon.com/Triad-Benzalkonium-Chloride-Towelette-Towelettes/dp/B002TR6M7M

is a similar product with a similar formula, can be found in the first aid sections of drug stores and do not have some of the other detergents that kitchens wipes have.  also Formula 409 is a similar mixture for those who like a spray ( and is made by Clorox!)
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Get Physan 20 read the instructions, mist your cuttings, and your mold problems are solved.
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have physan 20 at home. if the problem gets worse, i'll start using it. so far, it's under control with clorox wipes. too lazy to start mixing things.. lol
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Physan 20 is a strong concentrate and requires dilution, very effective, but as dangerous as clorox if not handled or diluted correctly.

Its a mixture of alkyl dimethyl benzyl ammonium chloride and alkyl dimethyl ethyl benzyl ammonium chloride

 
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last few cuttings that i'm rooting were wiped with clorox wipe after brushing with AB soap. i didn't use the bleach solution. three days later, i noticed some sign of mold on number of the cuttings. i went back and touch up with wipes. it seems it require repeated treatment, but after 2 to 3 treatment, the mold are gone.

since i'm just plan lazy person, it works better for me than mixing physan and/or bleach solution. just have to open the bottle and pull out a wipe. and we got them regularly from sam's club for house cleaning.
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I have to be honest. I used to be very detailed about disinfecting my cuttings. First I would scrub them with liquid dish soap then spray with a 10% bleach solution and in the crisper they'ld go. For what ever the reason, I would still find mold growing on the cuttings, especially starting at the ends where the cuts were made. It seemed that what ever I did to rid the mold, scrubbing again and applying the bleach, and even removing the bad wood, did very little to stop the problem. 

Then, I received some cuttings from a friend in Europe and noticed all of the cut ends were sealed with candle wax. I placed the cuttings in the fridge and noticed that nothing happened to them. They kept for long periods of time without ever showing signs of mold.

So now, when I receive cuttings, I scrub them with a toothbrush and dish soap (I don't bleach them). I prune off any wood that looks unhealthy, then I dip the ends in melted candle wax and place them in a ziplock bag WITHOUT any wet paper and place them in the crisper. 

The cuttings will collect condensation and periodically I will rotate the bags. Sometimes I will wipe off excess moisture if I see too much of it in the bags but it has never really damaged the cuttings.

I attribute the longevity of storage to sealing the ends of the cuttings with wax and maybe overdoing the cleansing removes beneficial microbes that prevent decay.
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leon,

i do notice the mold on ends of the cuttings and where the leaf scars are. i thought that was due to more irregular surface that can hide the mold spores. last spring i tried cutting the ends clean as soon as i got the cuttings. that did cut down on the cuttings getting mold, but some were still getting them. 

maybe you are right in beneficial microbe being rubbed out with AB soaps.
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I've switched from a Clorox solution to a Hydrogen Peroxide solution for cleansing and occasional misting to combat rouge mold. You can even water with it. Its reported to aid in rooting.
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3 parts water 1 part peroxide 1 tablespoon blackstrap molasses,
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KK, do you mind sharing the solution mixture you use of Peroxide. I am having a recurring mold issue also. Thanks
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I just started using HP about 3-4 months ago. I found this table I use as a guide. Still experimenting.

http://www.using-hydrogen-peroxide.com/gardening-with-hydrogen-peroxide.html
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Totally agree with Leon. That is the best way to store the cuttings for several months, without having any issues with mold.

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I have cuttings in my fridge that I collected November 2011. They were all nice and green, and started rooting them a couple days ago. I did not treat them with anything. I placed them in a ziploc in a special fridge where the temperature is below 40 F.

Leon is correct about the wax at the end as a sealer. But if you're too lazy, try keeping the fridge colder. I also think that when there is fruits such as apple close to the cuttings, they release ethylene gas which can spoil the cuttings as well. That's why I use a dedicate fridge for my cuttings and scions.
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storage is no longer an issue. i starting rooting all my cuttings past weekend. 

but thinking about it, i do have extra fridge that i don't use. i might try leon's method if i have spare cuttings. only thing is all the cuttings i have are what i wanted so no spare to test the storage solutions right now. 

come to think of it, i also have a block of paraffin wax that i haven't used.. 
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