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Thank you JD. I will increase my water timer and see if it helps.
I was wondering whether my plant was mutating into a variegated Col de Dame.

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I was wondering whether my plant was mutating into a variegated Col de Dame.


No, that's not what variegation looks like. It's some sort of stressor.

Sas, could be FMV? Mine had it pretty bad, but now in the ground, it is less noticeable. Maybe the plant went through some stress when those leaves formed?

Tam, where are you located? I wonder what your hardiness zone is. The tree being against the house gave some protection, but I'm curious how much cold an established Col de Dame can take without being killed to the ground. It's such ashame to loose all those cuttings! Perhaps this plant is free of FMV, it looked very healthy. I'm also curious how well it produced being somewhat shaded?

Mike in Hanover, VA

I planted a 1 year old col de dama noir in ground last year, I didn't protect it properly, I put a fleece blanket drapped over it and covered with a tarp so it ended up rotting most of the branches down to the last 3 inches, it put up a sprout from the roots and growing well now.  I will make some layers on my blanc and plant 1 in ground as well, I don't know how well it will fruit here in ground but worth a try I think.

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Chivas - Based on what I saw last summer, This variety needs a long warm season to ripen all the figs.
When it got cold here in Texas in the late fall, there were still figs on the 7 months old tree. My tree was started from a cutting around April of last year, and it gave about a dozen delicious fruits in its first year.

I am hopefully based on Herman's Experience being able to ripen them in new jersery in ground.  I also have them in a hoop house in pots so they have been getting a good amount of heat units already so I am hoping this will be able to help me get enough of a head start to get them to ripen everything.  

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Chivas and Shailesh: It does not grow much. Can someone me know if the leaves of this cultivar look like the leaves of the Col De Dame Blanc from UCD? Thanks for sharing.

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My cuttings came from UCD and your leaves look the same. This picture of my one and  half year old tree from cutting was taken last week.

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I do not have the one from Ucd, however they look like the leaves on my col de dama blanc from Baud.

It looks like it is doing great.  Funny how small those new shoots look compared to those huge stumps.

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Thanks everyone.

Sas: Can you please take the leaf photos of your Col De Dame Blanc tree? Thanks.

There are 2 shoots coming up from the big stump. All of the photos which I took from this tree last year were from this big stump. I will take more photos when they get bigger. Thanks for sharing.

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Tam

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  • Sas

Tam,  UCD Cutting Col de Dame Blanc leaf taken today:

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Sas: Thank you very much.

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Tam

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Steve: Can you please compare the leaf shapes of your Col De Dame Blanc to this cultivar. Thanks.

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Tam

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Tam, I have another one that came to me as Col de Dame from what I believe to be a reliable source and was told that the mother plant did not come from UCD for sure. Its growth rate is at a fraction of the UCD version and the leaves are slightly different. The only thing is that it did not produce any fruit for absolute confirmation.
If you wish to see the leaves, just let me know and I could post them.

Sas, do you mean to write "Tam" rather than "Pam"? :)

Tam, I am at work and can't walk outside to look at my UCD CdDB but previously I did compare my leaves to the leaves for this tree that you showed last summer i.e. the leaves from the large trunks that were removed.  I think that leaves from mine and yours are essentially the same.  I'll try to post them later.  By the way I took the airlayer off of the CdDB yesterday - did you see my email?  After a week or two recovery you could stop by and pick it (and the two other air-layers) up.

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I fixed it. Sorry

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Tam, I have another one that came to me as Col de Dame from what I believe to be a reliable source and was told that the mother plant did not come from UCD for sure. Its growth rate is at a fraction of the UCD version and the leaves are slightly different. The only thing is that it did not produce any fruit for absolute confirmation.
If you wish to see the leaves, just let me know and I could post them.


Hi! Sas

Please share the photos of your Col De Dame tree whenever you have a chance. Thanks.

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Tam

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Pictures taken today:
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Sas: Did your source say Col De Dame Blanc? How old is your tree? Thanks for sharing.

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Tam

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Tam, Yes it came to me specifically as Col De Dame Blanc and this one also is almost a 1 1/2 year old plant in a five gallon container.
It sat on my porch last summer in the shade. I moved it to a full sun location this spring. It's putting on some faster growth than last year, but nowhere near the UCD cuttings. Those cuttings produced figs for me in their first year.
I'm not sure if the leaves of this strain are showing signs of FMV or just a different stain of Col de Dame. I guess time will tell. I'll keep you posted when and if I get some fruit from this one.
Today I had my first Col de Dame of the season from the other container grown tree and I'm confirming again that it is one of the most delicious figs in my collection if not the most delicious. Can't wait to taste all three CDD side by side and discover the difference in flavor if any. There is a small chance that I might be able to do this this summer, unless the birds beat me to it. My first year Col de Dame Noir has three figs on it and the Gris has a couple also. They are both in the ground and growing in a similar fashion to the Blanc. All three plants have similar leaves but the Noir is a slower grower than the other two.

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Sas: Thanks for the information on your tree. Please remember to update your tree in the near future. Thanks for sharing.

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Tam

Hi Tam,
Did you hit your tree with fertilizer ? Do you water it  every week or twice a week ? Just giving ideas ...
At this point, I would probably try a greenhouse effect on that tree, especially on the little bud that one can see on the photo in the forefront.
I would at least lay a black plastic on the ground for the sun to hit it and heat the dirt . Sometimes even one °C more makes the difference ...
Just check often for rodents under the plastic ... I know don't tell me that they obsess me ...

I put an air layer in the ground of col de dam blanc and for 1 month it didn't grow, in pot it's a weed in the hoophouse.  Any tree I put into the hoophouse that is getting 40 degrees celcius, grows like they is no tomorrow.  That being said the noir I planted in ground is grow just as fast if not faster than the one in pot in the hoophouse, and the one in ground received minimal fertilizer and not much water other than rain, but the leaves are dark and stem is thick and oval indicating very strong vegetative growth which to me, means it has a very strong root system supporting it.  it is getting close to fall but maybe some bone meal or other phosphorus source used sparingly may help encourage some strong roots for the coming season.  Just a thought.

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Just had a Col de Dame Blanc Breakfast from my one and a half year old tree. it's a healthy substitute for strawberry jam. 

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