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Coll de Dama Blanca&Negra, a peculiar variety

I hope you can find that old employee!  I hope you paid him well, so he'll grant you some cuttings!
:-))
Suzi

Thank you, Axier, what a fascinating cultivar.  I have cuttings of three of the Col de Dam's from one of our great forum members (thank you), and looks like they will be rooting, so very excited about that.  I would love to acquire this cultivar, since I am a Master Gardener, and really enjoy having unusual cultivars, variegated plants, chimeras, etc.  Please keep us all posted.  I must buy Monserrat Pons book, too.  I would like to expand my fig resource books.  Look forward to more info on this very unusual fig!

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Originally Posted by DesertDance
I hope you can find that old employee!  I hope you paid him well, so he'll grant you some cuttings!
:-))
Suzi


Will take a little while,
but I can probably track him down.
Will work on it next month.

He owes me cuttings for all the figs he ate !!!
:-)

I hope you find and him and that he has pictures for us all to drool over, I'm really glad you are here Jack!

That has to be one of the more interesting trees for sure!  Amazing to have 2 different fruits naturally on the same tree and the fruits next to each other!  Talk about a conversation piece.

Thank you for posting about this cultivar.

Looks great- Thank you so much for sharing Axier.

Jennifer

If the pics are from Monserrat Pons then I don't doubt it at all.

Hey whats up Bill it's all good trust me. I wasn't referring to axier or Mr pons both are genuine people and I wouldn't question either one.

Sorry Nelson. Must have misread. Obvious misunderstanding. I may have also been feeling a little testy at the time. Again sorry about that. Moving on :-} .

Thanks everybody for all positive comments, but the merit is of Monserrat, he searched the variety, located, propagated, photographed, studied agronomically and wrote his book to the knowledge of the people. I just transcribe.
Nelson, I'm glad that you're not referring to me.
By the way, I've never sold on ebay (in any case, there is nothing wrong with it), and I have no intention of doing so.
Nor I have ever sold a cutting by other means.
On the other hand, I don't understand some comments questioning the authenticity of this variety.
Why would I do that?  I have more interesting things to do than invent a false variety.


Axier i do not have any doubts . Example i have fig tree called Panache.
Imagine in head what a slingshot looks like, the panache has one side reverse and one side fully variegated both sides growing off 1 main trunk .
I never seen a fig tree produce both dark and light types but these trees never cease to do the unusual.
I'm fortunate that i do have a tree from Monserrat Pons collection that he rates highly .

I think this tree was made for Martin, to try and trick him into liking white figs, you can't kill half a tree only to have more white figs grow next to the black ones can you? ;)

Sorry for possibly being off-topic, but this reminds me of a very unusual ornamental pomegranate (doesn't produce fruits).  Some branches produce double flowers that are red with a small amount of white speckling and other branches produce flowers that are mostly white with light red speckling.  I obtained cuttings from Davis USDA GRIN but they say they aren't sure if the particular branch my cuttings were obtained from will result in the same mixture or all of one color.  I wonder about the same with Coll de Dama Blanca-Negra.  Has it been propagated with the same results?

Just to make a clarification for you Axier and everyone else. I think it was just a misunderstanding from what Nelson said. He wasn't directing any doubts toward you Ax or Mr. Pons. He made this clarification in post #36.  Sometimes we have a thought and it doesn't come out at all how we meant it when it's typed out in print. I think this was the case here.

I know Nelson is a good guy and I believe this was just a case of "lost in translation". Sorry Nelson. 

I am not angry, no problem for my side!
Let us return to talk about figs, only figs! :-))

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Originally Posted by HarveyC
Sorry for possibly being off-topic, but this reminds me of a very unusual ornamental pomegranate (doesn't produce fruits).  Some branches produce double flowers that are red with a small amount of white speckling and other branches produce flowers that are mostly white with light red speckling.  I obtained cuttings from Davis USDA GRIN but they say they aren't sure if the particular branch my cuttings were obtained from will result in the same mixture or all of one color.  I wonder about the same with Coll de Dama Blanca-Negra.  Has it been propagated with the same results?

Harvey, according to Montserrat, it has kept its characteristics through time in successive cutting propagations.

Thanks, Axier!

Figs 4 fun, let's keep it fun!

@ Harvey & Axier. Absolutely!

I find it interesting that this is something that I personally may have never even noticed in a fig tree. I think I would have just overlooked it as some figs on the tree simply not getting dark due to less sun on that part of the tree or some other "conditions related" anomaly. No doubt, Monserrat Pons gave this plenty of thought and study before deciding that something like this was not the case.

Sorry about the confusion but again I wasn't referring to axier or mr pons.

Ps deleted post .

Back to figs:)

This is awesome!

Does anybody know where an English translation of Pons and Bauds books can be found?  I live right next to Mexico, and I know a few words... Donde es la bana?  Es importante, but that is NOT Spanish!  "Ayeee, Madre de Dios!"  Not Spanish!  Es Spanglish!  Translation OMG!  I may be able to wing it with Espana, but French?  Not likely. 

In high school you get to choose a language, and I chose Spanglish.  My friend chose latin.  Someone wrote on her desk, "Latin killed the Romans, and now it's killing me."  Ha!  Never will forget that!

No clue about translating what Bauds and Pons say about their figs in their writings.  I have a need to translate for some varieties I have been gifted, and would like to know... So I know Alta Vista will translate, but I can't copy and paste a PDF, so how do you find all those symbols on top of the letters?  Willing to take that trip! :-)

Suggestions welcomed!

Do you know how many members from countries that speak other languages come here and speak English fluently?  It's amazing!  I salute you!

Suzi

Suzi, I could help you. I don't speak French but I understand it enough for translating.
I will send you a private mail, if not, this will result an off topic matter.

that is a gorgeous fig

can anyone share light on the types of the col de dama.  are all col de dama similar?

All Coll de Dama taste very similar, and are very similar in the other characteristics.
Apart from the peculiarity of the Coll de Dama Blanca-Negra, botanically very interesting, it is the earliest ripening variant of Coll de Dama family.
If your climate is sunny, with mild autumns, and a late variety is not an issue for you.
Coll de Dama Blanca, Coll de Dama Gris, or Coll de Dama Negra are excellent varieties.

does this include the col de dama varieties, such as  cdd bordissotenca, cdd de ciutat, cdd gigantina, cdd roja

Axier,
Thank you for sharing the information about CDD varieties.  There is not too much information about these varieties.  
Any breba crop for Coll de Dama varieties?  How early is CDD Blanca-Negra is ripening?  Thank you.

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