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Conadria 2014

This fig has been pretty well documented in recent years (Nelson and others have posted some good info).  It's a fairly productive and successful fig here in central NY state this year... many figs on the tree, with reasonably large size.  A unique taste.  In the past few days I've picked four, with three of them weighing 60g each.  Here are a few photos... the one today was 60g, and the one on 9-18 was smaller.  At the time of tasting today's I wrote:  good and juicy, some seed crunch, medium sweet, unique flavor with an overtone of canteloupe.  I rate it an 8 out of 10.  My son (who generally prefers figs that aren't extremely sweet) rates it 9 out of 10.

Here are photos:

Conadria on 2014-09-20.  60 grams.
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Conadria 2014-09-20, showing the eye
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Conadria 2014-09-20, split
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Conadria 2014-09-20, closeup of split
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Conadria 2014-09-18.  This one was smaller.  Here it is whole:
Conadria whole 2014-09-18.jpg


Conadria 2014-09-18 (the smaller one), split:
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Conadria, 2014-09-14, pair of figs (around 60g each)
Conadria pair in hand 2014-09-14.jpg 


Conadria 2014-09-14, whole
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Conadria leaf, 2014-09-14
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Mike   central NY state, zone 5a 


Mike,

I love my Conadria! Very tasty and productive.
The more sun it gets, the better the figs are.
Mine inside is not as red though, maybe because it is caprified?

Hi greenfig.  Glad to hear you have good success with this kind.  I'm not sure why some are more red inside than others  (looks that way too from a search of past years' entries).  I'm sure we don't have the wasp around here (and with you being in So Cal I'd bet you do have the wasp around).  So maybe that's it, or maybe something else.  From what I've seen, other varieties seem to tend to be darker when caprified rather than lighter, but I wouldn't bet that that's any general rule.  Nelson's (in Ontario Canada, also no wasp) looked fairly red also.  Whatever the reason, it's an interesting fig.  Compared with the other varieties I have, this one seems a bit unusual.  I like it.  :-)

Mike   central NY state, zone 5a  

I do not have any photos of the ripe Conadria, sorry. Please see a pic of still green figs, they are about half the size of the ripe fruit.

When you say it is a bit unusual fig, what do you mean by that?

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I believe there are at least 2 strains of Conadria. See Durio's nursery description, My tree is similar to
Durio's description. I was at Richard's Watts place a few years ago and his tree was loaded. He cited
it is the most reliable and productive tree for him then.

Nice looking fig and great size!
Did you help it along with some greenhouse time to get t to ripen so quickly in z5?

Nice looking Conadria Mike, decent size, nice form, nice flesh, nice taste. congrats.

Nice looking figs mike. I have one that I started last year from UCD and it refuses to grow...

Mike,
Thanks for sharing the pictures and info.
My Conadria EL also produced figs with a dark interior. I lost the tree this past winter, but the one year old replacement currently has 2 figs that should ripen soon. Attached is a picture of a fig from last year, I was also pleasantly surprised by the small eye of this cultivar.
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Thanks everyone, for the comments.  Nice of you each to comment here.

@greenfig:  Nice pic of the green figs.  The overall look of the tree resembles mine very much.  Though I didn't post a daytime picture of the tree (with stems, leaves, and unripe figs), the appearance your tree outwardly resembles mine quite closely.  When I say that it's a bit unusual, I'm referring mostly to the flavor.  (And I'm glad you asked what I meant, because I initially tripped on the wording of "a bit unusual"... first I had written "a bit unique", and then realized that it was poor wording... (how can something be only a bit unique?... either it's unique or it's not unique), so I edited to "a bit unusual", which still didn't seem quite right... so I'm glad you asked :-).  Here's what I meant:  To me it's a fairly unique taste, and doesn't closely resemble the flavor of any other variety that I've tasted.  I contrast that with others that seem to me to fit into "flavor groups" or something.   For example Sal's EL, Hardy Chicago, Tacoma Violet, Sicilian Red and its synonyms, probably others... to my palette these have a similar though not identical flavor, so I think of them as a group.  I contrast that with Conadria, for which I've found no other that resembles it closely.  I think there are other figs that stand alone in their flavors (for example Verte - Bass is another one that doesn't seem to fit into a "flavor group", rather it stands alone).  But none that resembles Conadria, to my taste perception anyway.  One other thing a bit unusual about Conadria is the mottling of colors in the pulp.  It seems to have blotches of red and blotches of golden yellow, even when very ripe.  Probably there are other cultivars that do that, but it's the only one I've observed directly. 

@paully22:  Yes, that seems likely.  (2 strains that differ slightly).  That's probably a more likely explanation of what greenfig observed about the color variation.  Could also be conditions (soil culture, climate, etc).  But it wouldn't surprise me if there are a couple of strains.  After all, a "strain" could just represent different individuals that are so closely related that we consider them the same cultivar.  It's worth noting that the habit of greenfig's tree overall resembles mine (dominant leaf pattern, overall appearance of the fruit).  Given that so many fig trees are widely propagated by cloning, it's not surprising that a few slightly different versions of the "same" cultivar abound... just widely cloned descendants of different individuals once considered the same variety.  Your explanation seems most likely to me.

@pino:  Thanks for your comments.  But nope, no greenhouse time.  I did do a little bit of shuffling in the spring  (bringing trees out of the garage for warm days, and returning to the garage if there was a frost warning).  But actually very little of even doing that in the spring of 2014.  I didn't really bring them out until mid April.  It is one of the trees that I up-potted this year.  Other than that, maybe it's just some luck that this tree has done so well this year.  It's the first year that it's been this productive.  (It's a three year old tree).

@waynea:  Thanks.

@deerhunter16b:  Thanks.  Sorry to hear yours isn't growing well.  I've had a couple of other varieties that languished for a year or two and then suddenly took off  (without obvious explanation).  A few of those were from stock that came from UCD.  But hang in there, maybe yours will take of in 2015.  If not, take heart that there are some of this variety that will thrive here in the northeast.

@ascpete:  Sorry to hear you lost that tree!  Yours was one of the comparison trees that I referred to when I was comparing mine to others.  (I think you posted last year in Nelson's thread maybe?).  (I also saw yours paully, in some prior year threads).  I do also notice that your photo shows the mottling of pulp color (red and golden yellow).  I hope your new tree does well for you.  Mine came not from EL (at least not directly)... I got this one from a former member here in Rochester NY, who told me he got it from texasflower (a former member here who I used to see listed, but no longer).  Where it came from before that, I don't know.

Here's hoping we all get some good warm weather in the weeks ahead.  My Conadria has around 30 more figs with many of them just starting to swell... hoping to get a good number of them really ripe!

Mike   central NY state, zone 5a





Good thread on Conadria, one of the more reliable light cultivars it seems. First ripened for me in pot this year a couple days ago.
For taste, I noted at the time: a juicy refreshing jelly sweet strawberry, sweet skin, sweetest around the eye.
I treat this cultivar the way I treat LSU Purple: let the fruit hang a few days longer than I might the fruit of other cultivars.
I don't care for melon taste in figs, so am always trying for more fully sweet ripe.
Curiously this year even in less then fully ripe figs I've found little or no melon taste.
The figs are either sugar, berry, or honey sweet or unripe. Sometimes both in the same fig.
Sometimes sweet plum flavor or some other more flavorful fruit, including tropical, than melon.
When unripe a bland taste of unripe pith, woody stem.
9-19 Conadria:

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Tony,
Are you sure that is a Conadria?
It doesn't look like mine, the size is too small, the eye is cracked, the color inside...

Tony
Can you post a leaf to see how it compares to Mikes's Conadria?

It's Conadria from Edible Landscaping. I have a couple of those little trees and gave one to a neighbor. This fruit is from a small tree currently. Regarding fig color and leaf, it has leaves and fruit like a number of other pictures of Conadria found on F4F. Regarding cracking and size, that will vary widely depending upon external conditions. There are said to be a couple strains of Conadria going around, which may also be.
Leaf:
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Here is a picture of Conadria EL this season. Although most other cultivars were disappointing in taste due to colder ripening weather, the Conadria developed a sweet jammy interior. The eyes were tight and the flavor was sweet berry with a light seed crunch.
Conadria_EL_10-11-14.jpg Conadria2_EL_10-11-14.jpg .


Those look just like my Conadria I got from Michael of Edible Landscapimg as a gift for helping he and his wife set up a tent at the Maymont Herb's Galore sale. I also got a Hardy Chicago, my first two fig trees. I lost my Conadria one winter, not sure if it got too cold or too dry. I do remember the very tight eye. I've mentioned this before, but I had a Laterolla that was the same size that looked identical in growth habit and leaf. My Laterolla is still alive and thriving, but for some reason, only a few figs this year, still nothing ripe. Probably focussed on growth now that it is in the ground. Maybe these are closely related or the same.

Mike in Hanover, VA

Conadria EL has been one of my best green figs for the last 2 years as a 3 and 4 year old tree in a 5 gallon SIP.
Here in NH it seems to be one of those fool proof, reliable, productive varieties and with very good flavor and size.
For some reason the color of the interior is darker red almost a "blackish" red closest to the edges , but since my Atreano and Latarolla exhibit  a similar coloring and they are all in pots , I guess it has to do with my potting mix or weather conditions at the time of ripening.
Even harvested a little early the flavor is still quite good.

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Very nice white fig and with an interesting size !

Wonder how it performs in Cal climate..and if anybody has ever tried to dry it.
Thanks for sharing

Francisco
Portugal

Francisco - they are grown commercially in CA for drying.  Conadria was bred by Condit as an improved Adriatic (CONdit + ADRIAtic).  I have had them dried and they are very good.

Francisco, I dried a few last year in a dehydrator and I did not care for their taste.

Thanks for all the additional comments.  I'm glad to see there are others who are enjoying this variety.  It has continued to reinforce its status here as a definite "keeper".  I've gotten 35 or more figs from this one this year, continuing to ripen them even as the weather cooled signficantly.  I picked two just the day before yesterday (10/21) even, and they were still quite good.  All have been excellent.  Also, one last week was even larger than the others... about 80 grams.  A few specific responses to some of your comments:

Pete:  I'm glad that you've gotten figs already off of your new (replacement) Conadria tree!  I agree that it's been a good fig even for colder weather ripening.  Although, lots of my others have ripened really sweet figs here anyway, despite the cooler weather this summer.  The fact that we had a relatively warm autumn seems to have made them come out OK.  Hard to tell if our different experience with other varieties has been because of minor differences in our locales (microclimate differences, or culture differences, or who knows what).  Or maybe it's because my trees have acclimated to the cool weather (lol... not serious about that).  But for whatever reason, there have been lots of varieties that have been excellent here this year... Aubique Petite, RDB, VDB, Hardy Chicago, Petite Negri, and others... all of them have (like Conadria) produced some really tasty figs here this year.  I even got some English Brown Turkey main crop to ripen here this year (some years that one's breba only).  One thing that I have noticed is that a lot of the figs have had tougher skin this year (though not Conadria, seems more with the dark figs)... it's just hypothesis, but I'm wondering if there's cause and effect there related to the cooler weather.  In any case, I'm glad your Conadria is producing already.

Mike G:  Sorry to learn that your Conadria was lost.  I think that Latarolla and Conadria are different varieties.  In any case, good luck with your Latarolla.  If you get another Conadria some time, maybe you can give us a side-by-side comparison?

Kerry:  Yep, I agree.  It's a great variety for the northeast.  Also, I have seen a number of them get that blackening (or dark purplish staining) near the edges.  Particularly as the weather got cooler, I've seen that on a number of the Conadria figs here.  I've also been taking to leaving them on the tree longer than those first few that I posted pics of.  A lot of them just darker red too.  I might have a couple of photos of some of those  (I take pictures of more of them than I post... it's too many pictures to post them all :-), but if I find any pics that show that purpling around the edges, maybe I'll post one here... or you can if you've got a photo). 

Francisco and all -- thanks for commenting here about them.  I've never had them dried (We end up consuming them pretty quickly while fresh).  But I see we've already gotten two differing opinions on how they are when dried.

Mike   central NY state, zone 5a


Ed, Nick, Mike

Thank you for helping me to better understand some aspects of this cultivar.

Francisco
Portugal

Quote:
Originally Posted by MichaelTucson
... continuing to ripen them even as the weather cooled signficantly.  I picked two just the day before yesterday (10/21) even, and they were still quite good. 


Just picked another one today (10/23).  Tasted great :-).  Just for reference for what I mean about cool conditions:  Nights here have been in the 30's and 40's, and daytime highs in the 50's and low 60's.  (All temps F).  Granted, all of these figs started to ripen back when daytime highs were hitting the 70's (but not every day).  So although I make no claim yet for how hardy the tree is in terms of surviving through frigid winters, nonetheless in terms of ripening figs despite marginal temperatures, this one seems to be a great cultivar for cooler climates.

Mike

  • PHD

Really great information, this is what makes the figs 4 fun forum so special. I never considered trying Conadria but after reading these posts its definitely on the future list. Especially since I live in the Northeast.

  Pete

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