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Thought I'd share some photos of my cuttings thus far I started them October 30th 2014 this is the first time I've tried rooting in coir and using clonex  I definitely think it's better than my old way using sphagnum moss 

I have half of my cuttings in coir and the other half in perlite  I like both of these methods much better than the sphagnum moss , I've never used Clonex before I think that what really made these cuttings take off 

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What a nice setup, look at those roots on Nov. 24th, nice Dave, nice!
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If I put the above structure in my wife's kitchen I would be out of a bed to sleep in and it would be thrown into the yard.

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Jake LOL What's more important the wife or the figs?????? 
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I don't know Jake, looks like there might be enough room for a couple more setups.
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These are some of the best looking cuttings and roots, I have seen in such a short time! .... Congrats! :)
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Thought I'd share some photos of my cuttings thus far I started them October 30th 2014 this is the first time I've tried rooting in coir and using clonex  I definitely think it's better than my old way using sphagnum moss 

I have half of my cuttings in coir and the other half in perlite  I like both of these methods much better than the sphagnum moss , I've never used Clonex before I think that what really made these cuttings take off 

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Beautiful!
I bet your wife is thrilled with the new piece of kitchen cabinetry!

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Interesting so that is soil below and perlite on top? Looks really good,what was the thinking on that?
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Thanks Frank 

Rich all kidding aside thats a second kitchen that I have in the basement every ginzo got one 

Brian thats gnat nix on the top it's suppose to keep the little buggers from getting into the soil and laying there eggs 
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Great progress, Dave.  Nice use of the kitchen!
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Man, great success you have there! There is absolutely not way my wife will let me put cuttings in the kitchen!
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Good progress and excellent results. Congrats!
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Nice job. I need to go talk to my wife. If I don't return it probably didn't go well.
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LOL Hershell bring chocolates with you 
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Dave, awesome congrats ! Very nice and neat set up! By the way has anyone heard from Hershell yet, it's been over Ten minutes! Lol
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Ok. I'm back, things went better than I thought they would. I now have a nice little cot in my greenhouse that I can use any time I wast. Yea, I should have thought about the chocolate
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I've met Hershel's wife she's a sweetie, I am sure she is just showing him around the kitchen to pick out a spot or two for cuttings....
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Funny stuff.

Great job Dave.
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Nice job!  Far more vigorous roots than the cuttings I started mid-September.  But then, I started them outdoors with no hormone, coir, perlite.  Just wet paper towel and ziplock.  Congratulations!
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Wow, very nice!

Any heating? 
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Showin me up, huh?  Just kidding.  Best of luck with everything.
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nice 
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Great looking plants.  I would not have said anything about plants in the kitchen.  Of course I'm sleeping in the pool room so my orchids can have the bedroom with the windows...

Very nice set up.
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Hi Dave,
Nice.
What's on the schedule now ? Pot up or not ?
IMO, it is useful using bigger containers from the beginning for delaying the up-potting .
Some say one should poke holes in the cups. Is it me, or I don't see any holes in those cups ?
This is a good start, good luck ! and keep us updated :) .
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If we had a clapping smiley I would use it.  For now just settle for a plain ole non clapping one. Nice job :)     
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Here was my mess two years ago..

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Here was my mess two years ago..

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The reflector made with the auto sun shield is an interesting idea.
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no there are no holes in the side of the cups , more places for gnats to enter I don't know if it is necessary these rotted just fine without them 

next time I probably will go with the bigger cups I've already repotted a few of them they lift out of the cups very nicely and I am repotting them in a mixture of coir, vermiculite and perlite in one gallon pots 

Frank 

thats a nice setup you have there plenty of light , the 2nd picture down did you start them this year or are they plants you brought in for the winter? 
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thats a nice setup you have there plenty of light , the 2nd picture down did you start them this year or are they plants you brought in for the winter? 


These pics were from winter 2012/2013.  The 2nd pic was Carini cuttings I had started in Sept/'12.  These were 3 months ahead of the other cuttings I rooted.  After the clear cup phase, I used Miracle Grow potting mix.  That was my first year rooting anything.  I wouldn't use MG now, as it was a bit 'muddy' for my liking.  I did have gnats all winter too.
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Great work, Dave!  Which brand of coco coir are you using and how do you use the clonex?  Do you wet the coco coir first and put the cuttings in?  Did you mix the coir with anything else?  How are the cuttings in perlite doing?  How do you water these?  Spray, pour over, from the bottom or something else?

When you have results this good we need a step by step tutorial if you have time.  Other members are going to want to imitate your success and we can all benefit from learning new things.  Some people never get cuttings because their attempts at rooting have failed.  Yours might be the method that works for them and introduces them to a new world of fig varieties.
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If you don't have anything in your house harboring gnats from the get-go, you can nuke your soil mixes and kill any gnat larvae/eggs that may be hitch'n a ride to the promised land. I generally am gnat free in my house until about March. Then it starts to get warmer and gnats in the big pots in the garage(which you can never entirely be rid off) start to wake, eventually some will find their way into the house and get to my starts(usually just about April) but by then everyone in the house is big enough that gnats are not much of a threat. And, then you just treat them with nematodes or Gnatrol, I have yet to use Gnatrol but now have some on hand if the need should arise.

I was going to comment on the auto window reflectors as well. Good use if you have them on hand. If you have access to a Grow-Store, Mylar works great too..as it should because that's what its made for. I like it because you can either drape a loose sheet entirely over the florescent light and let the sides just hang down or tape a smaller sheet to the edge of the light along the sides. It is nice because the weight is minimal and it can just fall against the leaves of the plants and the leaves will support it away from themselves, molding a perfect sized grow chamber with no damage to the plants at all, ever. I used to like to keep the ends open to allow air exchange, but a person could still use a partial piece..allowing a space above and below for air exchange on the ends too I suppose. Since our house now has a sun room and sliding glass doors along the sun room, I just use the free sun light and figured out ways to make that work for me.
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Thanks Frank 

Rich all kidding aside thats a second kitchen that I have in the basement every ginzo got one 

Brian thats gnat nix on the top it's suppose to keep the little buggers from getting into the soil and laying there eggs 


Ginzo?

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Bob let me start by saying I didn't come up with the coir idea on my own I got the idea after seeing "FDM Franks" post  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/rooting-in-coir-7145086?highlight=coco+coir&pid=1285184607#post1285184607

I bought a big block of coir and soaked it for a about a half an hour dipped the cuttings in Clonex and put them in the cups in roughly the 4 weeks I had them in the cups I didn't water them once the couple that I potted into bigger pots were on the dry side I think I could of given them a little water after 3 weeks 

The cuttings that I have in perlite are leaving out I don't see any roots yet but they are in a much bigger container than the ones I started in the coir 

Rich Ginzo=Italian 
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......The cuttings that I have in perlite are leaving out



Rich Ginzo=Italian 



Good news on the cuttings. Bottom heat drives root growth. All of my current cuttings had heavy root growth before any buds broke.

Thanks for clearing up Ginzo.


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rich i was thing about bottom heat what kind of mats would you suggest ?
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rich i was thing about bottom heat what kind of mats would you suggest ?


Hydrofarm 24x48 mat with Hydrofarm thermostat - Amazon or your local grow shop
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What temperature do you run heat mats at? I've never used them before I wouldn't want to cook them 
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Truly awesome results! Congrats on those roots :)
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What temperature do you run heat mats at? I've never used them before I wouldn't want to cook them 


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Rich thanks I'll have to try that on my next batch of cuttings 

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/from-twigs-to-figs-in-120-days-richs-propagation-method-6838912?trail=50
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Ginzo... Really?

Particularly offensive!

Nice work otherwise, Dave.
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Im a Sicilian from Texas, i had never heard ginzo...i prefer Guido or Guinea..hahahaha
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Danny come on it is all in good fun

Justin Guido does have a nice ring to it LOL
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Here's some pictures I took today while I was watering them , I gave them a half dose of Fox Farm Big Bloom  They recommended this fertilizer for seedlings , cuttings, and transplanting it's pretty mild when used as directed but I chose to go half strength we will see what happens, 

Here's the info 

This odorless, liquid fertilizer is a live culture of vitamins, amino acids, natural growth hormones, enzymes, and beneficial organic microbes. This micro-brewed formula incorporates earthworm castings, bat guano and other high test organic ingredients that offer a full, balanced range of nutrients. Norwegian kelp improves nutrient uptake and increases yields. Rock phosphate helps transfer energy from one part of the plant to another, which means bigger buds and more fragrant flowers. 0.01-0.3-0.7

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good luck with it 
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I applaud your decision since you have some very pale leaves.  I'd ask them or look on their web site to see if there's any iron in it.  Be very careful with iron - it's essential for dark green leaves but too much is lethal.
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I generally run my mats between 75 and 79 but there's no one right or wrong thing.  A lot depends on how warm the house is.You're probably not helping yourself under 72 or over 84.
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Thanks Bob I will check tomorrow to see if it has iron in it and how much? I am hoping that the watered down amount of fertilizer I gave them will be enough to green them up a little bit 

The shelf that I have them on is right in front of a radiator it's keeping them nice warm and cozy! 
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Pale leaves could be most likely nitrogen deficiency or both. 0.01% nitrogen in this fertilezer is nothing. I think it is not a good formula for your figs.
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