Thanks guys, That seems to be the issue with these cuttings in water. They get the bumps going and they get a little big, but they seem to fall off. I never only one or two actually grew a root. I have so many of the other cutting that seem to be working, Knock on wood. That I am willing to wait and see with these in the water, but it has been a while. Also, today I potted more of my cuttins from the bag method. I am running out of supplys around the house and I thought it was a good idea, but do you think it is ok to use a cardboard box to make a little green house sort of? I just took all the pots put them in a box i had laying around, made a frame wrapped it in plastic. Today the leaves looked a little wilted. I am not sure if I need to water more or what. I was thinking though Do you think the cardboard would absorb the moister in the ther? I through in some wet towels this morning and when I get home from work I will water everything, but I would like to try to make this work. 