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Thank you, Devin, for the generous offer.  It would not be possible to have it shipped across the border, as I live in Ottawa, Canada.

Thanks again!



Aww that's too bad Bill! Others have been so kind with sharing with me I was very excited to return the favor! I hope that you find your cuttings!
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So if I get this right, you cut them back to a few feet every year, before winter? But then you lose the breba, or is that intentional? 


I am pretty sure I read somewhere that some figs produce breba on new wood while others do not, if this is correct maybe Joe can answer which group Dalmatie falls under?
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I am pretty sure I read somewhere that some figs produce breba on new wood while others do not, if this is correct maybe Joe can answer which group Dalmatie falls under?

Really, this would be new to me? But anyhow, the plant will develop its main crop faster and thus it will ripen better if it doesn't have to grow the breba crop first.
That's common knowledge in this fig community.

It's all about timing, especially in the northerly zones we are living in. 
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Stormy and Devin,
Dalmatie is a common type fig that is bifarous.  It can produce 2 crops, 1st crop (brebas) and the main crop. 
The 1st crop is produced on last year's wood and the main crop on the new wood grown this season. 
My goal with Dalmatie is simply to have it survive the winter (-25C) with as little effort on part as possible.  On the new growth Dalmatie produces a huge and consistent main crop that I am very happy with.  The figs are xlarge and consistent in flavour and super sweetness.  When I eat a plate of figs I save the Dalmatie for last.
I have other figs that produce brebas for me so I don't need to do the extra work to protect Dalmatie's new growth over winter. 
Hope I answered your questions.
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Yes, thank you! I believe I saw you mention before that you sometimes remove immature Brebas to speed the main crop. It's pretty cool (in terms of nature) that the main will just hang out until the breba ripens! I mean when you think about viability of seeds and such in natural world. Nature is pretty neat.
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Stormy and Devin,
Dalmatie is a common type fig that is bifarous.  It can produce 2 crops, 1st crop (brebas) and the main crop. 
The 1st crop is produced on last year's wood and the main crop on the new wood grown this season. 
My goal with Dalmatie is simply to have it survive the winter (-25C) with as little effort on part as possible.  On the new growth Dalmatie produces a huge and consistent main crop that I am very happy with.  The figs are xlarge and consistent in flavour and super sweetness.  When I eat a plate of figs I save the Dalmatie for last.
I have other figs that produce brebas for me so I don't need to do the extra work to protect Dalmatie's new growth over winter. 
Hope I answered your questions.
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Cristal clear explanation, thanks.
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~is your dalmatie in ground ? if so what do you do to winterize it ~

Hi Chuck
When my Dalmatie was 3 years old I planted in ground about 7 years ago.  It is as cold tolerant as the mt. etna figs (hardy Chicago..). 

I grow my fig trees as bushes and use the same winter protection on all of the figs depending on age and size. 
When they are small it is easy;
tie and prune back fig tree, pile up soil/mulch around the fig then put an open garbage can or similar on it and fill up with wood chips and then cover with a canvas.

When they get really big. 
Some of my in ground figs are >20 years old and are 8-10' high and wide so it becomes a bigger job but basically the same technique instead of a garbage can I build a wood box around the plant, fill as much as I can with wood chips and leaves, cover with boards and then with canvas or poly. 

It works great and I get tons of main crop figs.  The winters here can dip to -25C.  The average Jan temp is -7C.

The issue are rodents.  I use tree guards and hardware cloth to protect the main branches. 

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Originally Posted by Jamie0507
Oh my Pino this fig looks delicious! I have one in its first leaf, but not sure it will ripen its figs in time this season sadly.. It seems I really need to work on that whole "patience thing" lol! Pino did I read correctly that you have your Dalmatie inground in zone 6a?? I'll be ecstatic if so! Not many varieties can survive a 6a winter, let alone ripen fruits the very next summer! Does your tree suffer much dieback every year? Im trying to decide on a few varieties to trial inground here in my 6a zone & it looks like Dalmatie may be added to the list after reading this post! :) Thank you for sharing Pino :)
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Hi Jamie
Have had this fig in ground since 2009 and I planted 2 more in ground last year because it is a great fig.  I think this fig is designed for cool climates.  It continues to ripen into late October (or until hard frost hits) even when it is cool and wet and other figs have stopped ripening or started tasting blah.  The Dalmatie figs ripened end of October are still just as sweet, the flesh still bright red and delicious taste. 

I cover all my in ground figs for winter. 
The Dalmaties I throw an open 55gal drum over them and fill with compost and woodchips.  The branches survive and even produce a few brebas.  Dalmatie is not as vigorous and as productive as the mt etna's but just as cold tolerant.




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