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Dalmatie ripening early with a little help

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This Dalmatie cultivar came from a private fig grower who traced it to the Italian Adriatic.  This fig has been a good selection for my cool region and has produced nicely for me for many years.  Late ripening (Oct 1) and continuing to ripen even when cool temps until after hard frost usually Nov 1. 

This year I gave this fig a boost with a temporary coldframe cover for May and June and then uncovered for the summer.   It paid off with figs starting to ripen Sep 10 even with the cool wet summer. 

Unfortunately fig started splitting because of the heavy rain a few days ago and today they are predicting 50mm (2") of rain tonight so I picked one way to early.  Luckily there are many more getting ripe fast.

Incredibly as early as it was it was dry but still sweet, chewy and very figgy with a lingering taste.  
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Hi Pino.
Beautiful pictures,Stella (aka Cordi ) is a great fig enjoy.
Vito

Does Stella typically split during heavy rains? Looks like an open eye? Even under these conditions, it sounds like a good fig.

Waynea,

Last year, every fig on my Stella tree split, due to all the rain we had.  It didn't survive the winter.
Vito

Vito, Thanks, I never knew Cordi is a Stella synonym.  I had heard of some people using dalmatie/dalmation.

Wayne, yes Stella does tend to split if rain during ripening time and that is why I picked it early.  If you can let it ripen it gets super sweet just like eating jam with a teaspoon.  I actually prefer Stella a little less ripe.  Regardless it is a really nice looking fig and always a conversation piece because of its finger like leaves and impressive fig size.

my greenhouse is going to be packed next spring.... good job giving it an early start Pino... mine are still hard and green hoping they start to swell soon.

Thanks Tyler!  Yours should be fine just need to hang in there a while longer.   They fatten up and ripen pretty fast when helped a bit.

My Zone 6 in-ground Stella begins to ripen October and then they keep on ripening they don't seem to be bothered by a light frost.   I hope to keep eating them into November.  This year I got some poly and greenhouse hoops and started playing.  It worked in getting them to ripen early for me!  I am thinking of putting the poly cover back up now to help reduce the splitting and give them some extra heat units since they are now calling for 60's in the next 10 day forecast. 
 

Pino is this the same one you had on kijiji as "adriatic"  (I bought some from you a couple years ago) and it looks the same..

Tyler

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Very nice photos, thanks for sharing.

Best,
Tam

Nice fig, Pino. Thanks for sharing.

Hi Pino,
Nice figs.
Does Stella make brebas ?
I have my "Dalmatie" that started ripening the main crop beginning of last week.
This year, she is unusually early because of the milder beginning of our Spring this year.
For sure my "Dalmatie" and your "Stella" resemble each other a lot, and that would explain why I can't find "Stella" for sale at nurseries here .
If you look at my post on lda, the bottom green figs are "Dalmatie" - the most bottom one had a bit of mold inside. We had more than our share of rain this year, and "Dalmatie" figs have a tendency to rot if 
they get rain and cold weather during the ripening process.
Yesterday, I just took 6 more figs from the "Dalmatie" and they were much more better since the weather warmed up a bit and dried up since middle of last week .

Plant looks like it's loaded with figs

Thanks to all for your comments.

Dale thanks for the story on how this fig got its name!

jdsfrance I am trying to get dalmatie/dalmation to grow side by side with Stella.  If they are not the same fig then they sure are close cousins..LOL  Stella doesn't produce many brebas although this year I planted a 2 yr old cuttings and it did have 3 brebas (or 3 small figs left over).  They developed somewhat and got soft but were not nice.

Rich, Yes it is loaded with figs but for some reason (opposite to my other figs) the figs that will ripen now tend to be a little smaller.  Also Stella only grow well for me in ground.  They seem to require a large container to be prolific. 

Tyler, Yes.  I joined F4F Dec/2013 thanks to one of my grape customers that saw my fig trees and saw I was a fig nut already.  Before that I relied on friends and the internet to name figs and we know where that gets you.

Stella came to me 14 yrs ago from an 84 yr old Italian guy from Bari (on the Adriatic coast of Italy). 
He called it adriatico (Adriatic in English) said the fig originated on the coast of the Adriatic Sea.

I had no reason not to believe him.  He was a very bright and prominent man. 
Some recent information  I dug up says it originated in the Dalmation mountains in the former Yugoslavia which is on the Adriatic sea. 
I realize now that on this side of the pond Adriatic is a different fig.

Update on my U. Stella/Dalmatie

Finally ripened more figs and it looks like many more coming soon.  The first 2 figs in the posting were picked Sep 10 not quite ripe.  I had to pick them early due to splitting. 

I have difficulty telling when Stella are ripe because of the thick firm skin.  These ones were ready as can be seen by the browning around the opening and the juicy pulp.  I ate one and it was very sweet and juicy, jammy with no seed crunch.  These are too sweet for me to eat alone and thus the fresh walnut to eat with it.

The 2 yr old U. yellow fig (Italian white) grown in container decided to ripen 7 of its 10 figs at once.  Much smaller than the ones in-ground.  It had a nice figgy sweet taste, very juicy and hints of melon.  The in-ground mother fig was uncovered last winter and put out new shoots with figs but they are not ready yet.

The Ciccio Nero continuing to produce delicious figs.  As can be seen the bowl picked yesterday is mostly Ciccio Nero.  Nice figgy taste, lots of seed crunch and berry overtones, sweet but not overpowering like Stella.

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Nice pics Joe! Still waiting for my stella to swell.  Do you grow those walnuts?? if so what kind are they??

Hi Tyler
Yes I grow walnut, chestnut and hazelnuts.  I love nuts and figs..LOL
The nut in the photo is a Colbert #5.  It is almost as large as the Stella yet the shell is so thin it cracks easily with your hand.

Hang in with the Stellas.  Mine in containers are getting bigger but still a ways to go. 
It may be my poor container growing practices but when I stick Stella in the ground it does amazingly well.

Wow Pino, real nice and outstanding combination, good growing.

Hey Pino congrats on the nice figs! Glad you are enjoying them this year. Have you heard of Santomiele dried figs? They dry them with nuts in Southern Italy, supposed to be very tasty.

Thanks Wayne! 

I will take a little bit of credit for growing the nut trees. 
It is amazing how many people don't know you can grow Hazelnuts, English/Persian walnuts and sweet chestnuts in this area z6.

But these figs have been growing around here since I was a kid by my father, his friends and many others.  They had these figs figured out to grow in cold weather years ago.  

I can't wait to get some of the new varieties that F4F members are raving about to grow in-ground and compare like Niagara Black, RDB ...

Rafael, 
My mother used to oven roast for a few minutes dry figs with walnuts inside and they were awesome!  I hadn't heard of Santomiele dried figs.  Will check them out!
Thanks 

Joe do you grow those nuts from seed?? or can you buy them as trees down your way?

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Tyler,  The mother nut trees are grafted. 
The select seedlings I grow may not come true to the original nut unless grafted.  They are close enough for my purpose.   You still get a nice edile nut and nice looking tree.   I have tried to graft a few trees but in the end the grafts failed.
I do have trees in pots available.

Nice figs Pino....but I can't believe a fig could possibly be too sweet!!!...:)

Pino,
Thanks for sharing the Pictures and Info. Congrats.
I guess I'll be following your lead next year and start my Stella early in the Hoop House ; )

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