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does plants know how much head room they have? (pix added)

just wondering.. the cuttings i have in tall bin seems to be shooting up higher than the smaller/shorter bin.

i moved all of them to tall bin so it will be interesting how they behave in next few weeks.

Perhaps the tall bin is reducing the light somewhat and is causing them to stretch?   Even 10% less light or less light from the sides would make a difference.  If plants are stretching just a bit it isn't as noticeable where you would think they were getting leggy.  Just a thought.

will,

actually, the cuttings in tall bin are not getting "long" node. they are rather compact nodes, but growing faster and taller. on the other hand, the plants in the short bin are growing long node, still not growing as virgorously as the tall node. i thought at first that it's due to clear plastic top that's letting in some filtered sun. but noticed over the weekend, the short bin also gets some filtered sun.. so not too sure.

Perhaps the tall bins sides are more reflective?  Which is increasing the light received by the leaves?

Yes I agree with Wills.

In my experiments, it seems less light and you get weaker branching.  I see it happen in a similar fashion where you have heat to grow and less light in rooms.

The bins should be the opposite in growth pattern.  Interesting.

Just be careful I have seen figs grow too fast and get weak as summer approached. 

A person that used to be on the forum wiped out his collection  because they grew way too fast during winter months.  They were not starters but I can see the same thing happening.

here are the pix. the ones with better growth actually went into the bin later. the one with less growth were in old hinged bin, and was in cup longer. 

yeah.. i do notice few cutting growing very weak long branch. i might have to clip them so they will put out new branches. 

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What sort of light are they under?   Are the varieties the same?   Is the soil from the same batch?  To me some look a bit stretched......BUT......while I have 40 years experience growing plants my experience with figs is limited.  

will,

no artificial lights. just whatever filtered sun light that comes into my study. same batch of soil. most of the varieties have at least one in each bin. from past spring rooting and current winter rooting, i don't see too much stretching in the one with good growth. there are few i moved into that bin from hinged bin earlier since i noticed long internode and weak branch. the once moved into the tall bin are definitely doing better with leaves turning more green everyday.

i would like to say it's the sun light.. but like i said, the hinged bin does get some sun light also. so i'm not too sure.

just curious that's all.. as long as i end up with figs, i'll be happy :)


Greetings guys

Thanks for sharing your info here on this topic. Nice pictures Pete, I was wondering about the temperature of your room for plants at his stage? Should they be kept evenly warm day and night (with a heat pad) or is it ok for them to warm up during the day and cool down at night? I have some cuttings that I'm about to put in cups and want to ensure proper temperature. They have been rooting in plastic box, full of sphagnum, on a heat mat.

many thanks to all

There are just so many variables.  Sometimes with plants those that take off fast stay fast and those that for whatever reason got slowed down tend to stay slowed down.  

Regarding leggy growth, just to compare with grow lights, mine show very strong growth with several nodes.  I have three 4' shop lights (6 bulbs total) over 19 one-gallon pots.  Here are a few pics.

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wow frank, those are some nice looking plants.

Great pictures fella's.  ; )

Thanks.  Maybe it's that good ol' well water.  ;)

Frank, do plan on leaving the fruit or removing it - and why to either?

The amount of available OXYGEN is different between the two containers.

Which is reflected in the growth rates.

i'm pretty sure they get about same amount of oxygen. both are aired out about same, tall and short bin.

The cubic inch capacity of the tall bin
is more than the short bin,
thus more available oxygen in that bin
between the time of manual air exchange
by cover removal.

That is why the growing results are "opposite" as another member noticed.

If we tie a supermarket shopping bag around your head
you run out air in a few minutes.

If we tie a large trash bag, you got hours.

but the plants use carbon dioxide for the photosynthesis.. not oxygen. oxygen is by product of photosynthesis along with water. so.. basically what you are saying is in tall bin there are more air trapped in there for the plants to use. that would make sense. thanks.

edit: that should have been oxygen and sugar. carbon dioxide and water is what plants take in for photosynthesis.. forgot my high school chemistry x)

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Originally Posted by JoAnn749
Frank, do plan on leaving the fruit or removing it - and why to either?


I will likely remove most, but on a couple plants, I'm going to see how far they'll go.  These plants were my experiments for the fall, and they're pretty much at my disposal so no worries if I hurt any of them.  I know most everyone agrees the figs won't amount to anything due to the basement environment, but I find it entertaining to try.

Oxygen contains Co2
more (cubic inches/feet/meters) oxygen/air 
more available Co2

I would also venture to guess a slight
temperature variance between the two,
even a degree or two can create a noticeable difference at times.

Hi FiggyFrank, the baby figs tree is awesome.

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