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Doesn't look like... Petit Negri... but is it?

I wish it were only down into the 40's here too... but we've been into the 30's a few nights last week.  Rust is no longer the issue for my leaves... they're all dropping now from the cold.  Seems way too early for 30's!  What happened to autumn?   (Time to reflect and listen to that George Harrison song I guess).

This is my Petite Negri from Raintree. To me it looks most similar to Herman's Petite Aubique. The plant is young, I topped the primary at around 28-30 inches late July. Next year we'll see if everything is the same. Mostly five lobes, a few 7 if you count the thumbs which turn out. The biggest leaves are kind of beaten up from one of the hail storms this summer.

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Four years ago I purchased a Peter's Honey from Gurney's nursery which was later ID'd here on the forum as VdB.  Then Herman ID'd my VdB as Aubique Petite, and other's dispute that, so confusion reigns. 

The toughest part is trading with other members.  I do not want to claim my tree as one or the other, because it's just all craziness!

When trading do we say something like:  Violette De Bordeaux AKA Aubique Petite AKA ???  No intention to mislead anyone, and trading time is approaching, so how do we honestly label our cuttings?

Suzi

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I would give the history, I bought it as blank, it was identified as blank and so on

Thanks Barry!  I'll do just that!

Suzi

Current pictures of Petite Negri EL and VDB/Negronne EL. The VDB is an actual sucker that grew from below the soil line last year. It has shown no visible FMD symtoms (mosaic or malformed leaves) last year or this year (so far), it was separated in early spring from the mother tree. The Petite Negri, and mother VDB leaves are symtomatic of FMD.
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Very nice Pete.

My 4 year old petite negra came from Logees and has 1 lobe, 3 lobe, and 5 lobed leaves. The 3 lobes are the dominant leaf shape now. So what do I have?

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Great thread.  Here's my question.  If you have a VdB do any of these Petit N?gr?/Abique Petite plants have any significant adavntages as in better taste or productivity or different ripening season?

Thanks.

Bob C,
IMO, No! At least where it applies to my Petite Negri. The VDB is already over 4 feet tall and loaded with figs (over 4 dozen), with about a dozen already at the stagnant stage. The PN is 2 feet tall and has 9 embryonic figs.

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That's great, I have a VdB I started this winter which I am hoping will bear heavier than my PN. No need for 2 trees that are nearly the same. I still have a couple years to make up my mind on that one though.

Petite Negri should have larger fruit.  It also needs more heat than VdB.

Daniel, are those from potted or in-ground trees?

I purchased an LSU Purple from Edible Landscaping earlier this year, the pictured plant is what I received dormant in a 4 inch pot. I believe its an Petite Aubique or Petite Negri, time will tell. The leaves are similar to Jason V's "Petite Negra" in post #83, with mostly 3 lobed leaves and only a few 5 lobed and singles. I have LSU Purple from 2 other nurseries and tasted a few last year, and the leaves look nothing alike. This plant produced figs as soon as it started to leaf out and grow, I have already pinched 6 figlets and have left 2 to develop, but there are another 6 already starting to swell. Hopefully it can be identified.




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I drove to EL three weeks go and purchased 2 Petite Negri as well as few others. They gave me  very large plants for a 4" pot. They have all three different leaves on them- 1 lobe, 3 and 5 lobes. It looks very similar to Jason's and Pete's.But I don't know how this plant can be dwarf, since the leaves are so large. In my opinion, larger than VDB.

Again, it's not a dwarf fig.  Total misnomer.

After spending the last several hours reading over this thread I can say my head hurts. 

In conclusion I am now more perplexed on these varieties than before reading what everyone has mentioned. I think we all can agree that EL has us all mixed up and all these figs taste good. 

I'm with you Chris. I've read and reread and damned if I know what ANY of the 5 I have are. (supposed to be Petite Negri) I'm sure I have Petite Aubique and Petite Negri but I sure can't tell you which is which!

Okay, I finally got some pictures, can someone please tell me which I have?

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Tami, those leaves look like mine.  So now I want to know whether this is the read deal or a mistaken identity.  Either way its a good fig.

I absolutely want both Megan but I would sure like to know which is which.

Tami,

I'll send you pictures of mine tomorrow and see if you think they are the same.

Tami, I'm pretty sure that mine Petite Negra is the same as yours.  So the question still remains, is this a PN?

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Will someone please chime in on posts #96 and #100?

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Originally Posted by javajunkie
Okay, I finally got some pictures, can someone please tell me which I have?


Tami,
To me your pictures look the same as my tree of Petit Negri... the one that Vasile (Herman2) called the real deal (the true Petit Negri).  Especially in the last two pictures (though some of the other pics too).  The only thing I can't tell from your pictures is how much your leaves have any gloss to them.  Can you comment the actual texture of the leaves?  I'm asking because identifying based on the leaf alone is difficult... leaf morphology is affected by so many variables.  

But I think you've got real Petit Negri there (in post 96).

Mike

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