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  • BLB

I think it will be hard to find a spot for that fig as cool as it looks, Spreading like that takes up a lot of room. I can envision it in a large hanging pot that would be cool

  • jtp

It's possible that you are correct, Brent. Although I question if this guy deals with anything as sophisticated as tissue cultures. I'm going to go back to the local public gardens. I seem to recall a similar (though larger) fig that was almost like a groundcover. Maybe his source material is local.

For those that like its shape just train it early on by tying the branches from pot to stakes at ground level little by little or send me your best dark types and i fix it for you but no guarantee you get it back if the figs taste excellent .   ; )

I think what you are seeing is more of a temporary thing, I am not sure though. I expect mine to send up big thick suckers after a while and then the original "trunks" will be under the rest of the canopy.

  • jtp

Maybe I should put it into a Topsy Turvy tomato container. Or suspend a pot on the top of a pergola and grow a roof.

Any updates on this? any figs developing?

I have 2 of them, one being reserved for another member. Both are figless. I think it may be trying but I think it's a young plant at this point. Maybe next year

There's a guy near here, in my neighborhood, who has been growing some kind of creeping fig tree for the past 3 years (at least... it may be longer, but I only noticed it 3 years ago).  His tree kind of meanders through and between other bushes, has multiple stems, and spreads over a distance of perhaps 15 feet, but never more than a foot or 18" above the ground.  I haven't ever found him at home when I've stopped to ask about it.  He has other figs too, more traditional looking trees.  From the leaves it looks like F. carica to me.  I'm hoping to find him at home sometime soon, so I can ask about it.  

Mike   central NY state, zone 5

mike

my money is on a tissue culture brown turkey that just needs another year

It will be interesting to find out. A prostrate habit fig would be a fine monster for the garden design palette. Also, I come across Ficus pumila with fruit fairly often here. The fruit is surprisingly large but without caprification they were not that tasty. In Florida we used to quip that it was the only thing holding some roofs on during hurricanes. Highway overpasses too.

I saw a F. pumila bonsai and I liked the adult leaves a lot. I only find small juveniles for sale. The bonsai I saw even had synconia.  Alexis, how old do you think the F. pumila are when they start fruiting. I also wonder if the hybrid with the common Fig may need a pollinator to produce edible fruit.

  • jtp

Mine is growing well, but no figs in sight this season. And I have to shoot down the tissue culture theory. Mine has a touch of FMV. I still think the grower may have gotten his start from the local county gardens. They have a large, sprawling fig that is very similar.

Stefano, I have no idea. I usually come across them on back alley garages in neighborhoods from 1920 to 1945. I think the F.pumila bonsai are propagated from mature vines much like fruiting English Ivy can be done. At least that is what we did in Florida.

John,

Does that fig produce?

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Originally Posted by slingha
my money is on a tissue culture brown turkey that just needs another year

Tim, I saw Brent's and Bob's suggestions to that effect in that other thread about dwarf BT that you had.  But I'm not so sure that's the case with this one... it's at least 3 years old, so I'm not so sure that it'll change significantly in its 4th year.  I'll try to get some pics of it, if I ever find the guy at home.  (His neighbors might react funny if I just go up there into his garden and take pictures when he's not home).

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Originally Posted by jpeaspanen
And I have to shoot down the tissue culture theory. Mine has a touch of FMV.

John, the fact that it has FMV doesn't rule out tissue culture.  If there were viruses in the part that was cultured, those viruses could be cultured too.  Or the tree could have been exposed to FMV at any point before you got it.  Tissue culture is just a method of propagation... it doesn't guarantee a virus-free tree.

Mike   central NY state, zone 5

I just posted a few updated photos in the thread I had started.

  • jtp

Yep, it is covered in unripe figs. I checked it last week.

John,

did your fig tree put out any figs?

  • jtp

Nope. Not this season. I admit though that I left it in its nursery pot and kind of forgot about it. It's doing fine, but I got more focused on the ones producing figs and my other plants. I'll either pot it up into a bucket in the spring or I might give it a try as a bonsai. It has such small leaves that I think it might be a good candidate.

  • jtp

Update - My assessment of FMV may have been premature. I had rust this year on most of the plants. Once this one dropped its damaged leaves, it grew new unblemished ones. I think it is fine now.

It's a tough little tree. I all but totally neglected it, but it still grew well, spreading out like a leafy spider. It never got larger leaves; and it cascaded over the pot's edge. Weird and wonderful. Can't wait for it to fruit next season.

P.S. - I should have a limited number of cuttings available for trade. PM me if interested.

pre-bonsai?

  • jtp

No, after looking it over, I think it is too low-growing to be a good bonsai, even if you went with a cascade design. I am growing it for the fruit, which the seller told me was brownish-purple in coloration and allegedly sweet. I take this with a grain of salt though, as he also called it Brown Turkey. Pretty sure it is not that.

Personally, I think he lifted some starts from the local county gardens. They have a sprawling fig tree tucked away in a corner of the property. It has small leaves, creeps along the ground and produces brown/purple figs. It is unlabeled and unattended. Kind of forgotten, so taking cuttings would be easy enough.

As for my tree, I'm calling it "Wilmington Creeper," in honor of the recent Halloween holiday.

Maybe it's a Fiorone Di Ruvo fig?

  • jtp

I am not familiar with that fig. Can anyone tell us about this variety?

I've been looking around online for a fig tree with similarities to this fig tree and found this type today.  I would love to know what type it is...the mystery...lol  Looked at photos of Fiorone Di Ruvo fig and it grows similar to the Wilmington Creeper.
Here is how it is described by someone that has this type of fig: "The tree is growing in an odd shape. It reminds me of a helicopter with its blades at rest sort of sticking straight outward and drooping a bit."
Also says it has a early crop of figs but has no autumn crop if not caprified.

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