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E bay seller,selling false Ronde de Bordeaux.

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Yes Cornell is excellent for horticulture. I have 2 friends who both went there and know there stuff

Ruben,
I don't know about the "ebay police", lol
but in New Jersey, selling an intentionally mislabeled product violates criminal law.

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It is fraud and should be punishable by law to purposely mislabel something and then put it up for sale. Not sure this guy is purposely doing that. He may have been duped as to the fig's identity. 

This is just my opinion,

He's arguing his case! I think in a wrong way but he's arguing his case.
As a seller, he needs to show a little profesionalism and refrain from chosing some of his words. Everyone has his or her critics, just have to learn how to handle it. But I applaud him for fighting back.

What he doesn't know that this forum is made up of people from all walks of life. Doctors, lawyers, police officers and firefighters etc. etc. from all over the globe. So saying to us we don't have a life was probably said out of anger? I don't know. But I invite him to come back and see for himself who or what we are.

Maybe, just maybe. He feels in his heart of hearts he has the real deal?

Another thing is for sure,
Even though Dan_La and I never crossed paths in any way, shape or form. Dan failed to tell him he was kicked out of both forums. Dan did not leave on his own!
So for Dan to go to the seller on ebay and trash talk about this forum is well? TRASH!
No one on this Earth is filled with so much hatred and anger like Dan. I invite everyone to go to his websight to see for their self. With that, he's just a lonely poor soul!

Sorry Dan, You just brougth the fight to us. This is copy and paste from ebay;

Question & AnswerAnswered On
Q:Don't listen to those silly fig forums members. I could bet you that I know some of the names of those who are complaining about your listing. I was once a member of both the figs4fun fig forum and the Garden Web fig forum. I too got fed up their BS. Those individuals often do not know what they are talking about. I am a fig researcher and the author of Dan's Cajun Figs.....which is a Fig Blog. I study hundreds of fig trees and have RDB in my collection. Your tree definitely looks to be a RDB. FYI, the figs would be much darker in color if they grew in an area with more sunlight. Competition is a good thing!! Don't back down or given in to those silly fig forum members. Feel free to post this message on your auction. Dan Semper Fi-cusSep-09-12
A:I'm taking the opportunity to respond to all of those fig snobs on http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/E-bay-sellerselling-false-Ronde-de-Bordeaux.-6001802 by posting your input on the matter, I cannot believe that those snobs have the audacity to claim that Cornell Cooperative Extension of Suffolk have no clue on this matter, they know better then anyone, what a BS claim, get off that high horse, lose the attitude and among all get a life!!

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I tell the seller again,
We all can't be wrong. But if you prove otherwise, I will be the first in line to make my apology.

In conclusion,
After you are all calm, I would like to invite you to join us here in a formal fashion and we will welcome you like we welcome everyone else.

Or, you and Dan can become friends.

The ball is in your court my friend. And goodluck.









Rafed-Point well stated!

Rafed: Well said!   Man, this is just about figs.  Can you believe how worked up people can get.  Just like life in general, isn't there more than enough misunderstanding, hatred, and poor communication going around in the world. We need more people like you and the "cream" around to calm people down.   Thanks for bringing back the peace.

On the brighter side, I just spoke very nicely with the Lowe's store manager about a guava I bought almost 2 years ago (they only have a 1 yr guarantee on their plants) and told him that it produced fruit that wasn't the same as the named cultivar it was sold under.   He agreed to give me a full store credit for it and didn't even need to look at a picture or any proof that it was the wrong tree.   I wasn't going to get mad if he didn't give me anything, but as long as you try to act like a person, you will be surprised how well people will treat you. 

Thanks guys,

Usually I have a hot head. But I think the High Blood meds are working. LOL
Keep it coooolllll.

I really think that the ebay seller has been duped and is just defending what he thinks to be true.... but with all the interested people giving him their well known knowledge that he should take a step back and look into all the information and he'd see that his trees are in no way ronde de bordeaux. Rafed....you said it best....thank you.

wow.. that's some talk from dan. i thought he was ok guy. his peat pot method is still the method i use for rooting. oh well.. i didn't really follow why he left, but i guess he won't be coming back anytime soon.

Thanks Rafed!

I have read EVERYTHING Dan has said about all the F4F Forum members including myself!
Here  http://cajunfigs.blogspot.com/ 

I will also say that Dan Abadie last signed on the F4F website to "look" around 
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Dan_la
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If everyone here is so Damn bad why does he still log on???

I rest my case.

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It's hard to believe that Dan la did that and that he is telling the seller he has the real deal, I couldn't compromise my integrity for the purpose of being vindictive and I certainly wouldn't want to open up those old wounds again if I were him. Rafed, I'm impressed!

Well my job is done on this site, I succeeded to get all of you, little people, all roused up (my eyes are all teary), that was my initial intention, I don't even have a GD fig tree or like figs for that matter, too bad that in the process I made it possible to extend your meaningless life, you guys must be a genetic mutation, perhaps  have sex with figs??
I will never again go to this site so save you breath and time (I know you won't listen) QUIT!!
Good by and good riddance
giampalulo

Tried to reason with you.

You must live a lonely life my friend. Sorry to see this.

Take care and be safe.

one funny thing is that the pic of RDB leaf that Dan has on his  site is congruent with the generally accepted leaf form of RDB

http://cajunfigs.blogspot.ca/2012/05/rond-de-bordeaux.html

it is totally different from the leaf of the ebay seller.

and Rafed, you did more than try to reason with him,
you offered him a hand in friindship.

Grant,

It's O.K., 

The door is always open and the welcome mat is always on the floor.

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What a small mind lol

This is why trolls troll:

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According to Tom Postmes, a professor of social and organisational psychology at the universities of Exeter and Groningen, Netherlands, and the author of Individuality and the Group, who has studied online behavior for 20 years, "Trolls aspire to violence, to the level of trouble they can cause in an environment. They want it to kick off. They want to promote antipathetic emotions of disgust and outrage, which morbidly gives them a sense of pleasure."[16]

 
Do not feed them; never show anger, hurt, despair, shock, disgust,
or even try to "get through to them".

For those of you wondering about breaking laws on internet forums. http://www.seqlegal.com/blog/troll-hunting-forum-abuse-and-law

Rafed, you said it well! Noone should feel sorry for this guy. I think he's playing a game. I am thankful for this forum of friends. Keep doing what you do and buy from true trustworthy friends.

He'll be back. That type always will. Last-word freak. Give the baby his bottle.

I miss all the good threads ;)

This makes me want to give as many RdB cuttings to people as I can when the tree is ready (it's not much more than 3 small branches right now) so that people can enjoy it without getting duped.

I am not saying that any person is cheating or not, but I do know that figs are big business on Ebay.  I alerted my friend to it years ago as he is a propogator. 

Varieties like the RB are perrennial (on the more expensive side) sellers, so the competition is high.

I have bought other plants and other figs from ebay, and I do know that some are not what they are stated to be, whether the buyer meant to or just made a mistake. (which happens).  Some you don't know are a mistake until way later too, which is disappointing for the most part.

As a buyer of plants, I really enter with an attitude that I try and do my own research from what is presented and the person selling (or if its a nursery which will give be better support if there are issues) and make a decision and if I buy, I may be disappointed later.  I wish it were perfect and I was never disappointed, but thats sort of the attitude I have with plants from ebay.

I try to feel better knowing I have also supported a plant person making a living. :-)

It is very fortunate that today we have the internet.
In the past the person that shout louder ,making a better propaganda about their product will win and sell ,better making a fortune.
The internet makes it possible that the buyer has a say in it,and  positive testimony by buyers (not by seller),determine the value of an item.
Ronde de Bordeaux,and other premium cultivars are more expensive because buyers found them superior to other cultivars,so that is good for ,the fig tree as a plant,because it means that the inferior cultivars will slowly be discarded and more superior cultivars will take their place.
Later on the very premium cultivars will be very affordable as the price goes down,when many people grow it.
Selling an unknown cultivar as a premium one is not fair and it does harm the buyer.

Yup I wish all sellers were as careful/knowledgable...I agree.

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