They are bacccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkk......

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FIG-TREES-WINTER-HARDY-IN-THE-RONDE-DE-BORDEAUX-FAMILY-/180972313488?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a22ca5b90

Those figs pictures he list looks like Alma or Falls Gold.

lol. They do at that. Bigger. Clearly the leaves are wrong though.

Not that I really believe them, but the seller says interior is red and it is honey flavored. I think it looks like Tom's Paradiso.

Poor dude... If he had listed "unknown" Instead of what this person believe, then I may have jumped for a bid :-)

I almost placed my bid on the previous auction. Ahhh.. gotta love the power of community knowledge.

Here are the sellers photos, just for the record and those reading this after the listing has expired.








Also, this current listing originally had a buy it now option for $80, but the seller has taken that down after a few early bids.
Truth woven with lies...

A friend of mine emailed me last night and said she emailed the seller and asked if the figs ooze honey from the eye when ripe.  He responded back saying.... YES! 

Sorry dude, that fig tree is Alma!  Those with RdB know that they do NOT ooze honey from the eye when ripe!   Plus RdB figs are black when ripe.  BUSTED!!!!!  Buyers BEWARE!!!

Wish there was an easy way to notify ebay directly. I do thnk they would take action if they knew for sure that the seller was misrepresenting their product

You can report it to Ebay and I will try to include the comments made by the seller on the forum here. Being ignorant is understandable, but after being enlightened a reasonable person would want to retain their reputation and integrity, not the path this seller has chosen.

Thoughtful of him to register to comment...glad we matter. He does in tone and diction sound just like the guy who was selling "seeds" of named varieties.

I was able to contact EBAY and open report SR# 1-4613753440 with a direct link to this thread and the quotes from the seller within it. If you want to complain to EBAY they said you could report additional info if you want to the SR#

Is it just me or does that look like brunswick?

Seller is clearly misrepresenting, and it's a extremely unfortunate.  I hope eBay takes it seriously, last thing you need is misrepresenting scammers on your site... much less ones that will illegally ship products across state lines using eBay as the conduit.  If the complaint about fraud doesn't work, then I'll submit another complaint about the user illegally shipping plant material across state lines, which is something they can easily look up based on the buyer locations.  If this guy wants to play hardball, I'm game (I've got nothing better to do than to have his eBay account shut down if he insists on defrauding people over something we care deeply about - may he be forewarned).

Clearly the fruit isn't Ronde de Bordeaux (it's not solid black and small/round), and anyone that has looked in botanical literature knows the true RdB leaf has five long, skinny fingers with no "thumb fingers" and no protruberances down the long fingers, as it is described in literature dating back dozens and even hundreds of years.  Here is my sample which I know is Ronde de Bordeaux, it's buried in with a few of my other trees (the true RdB leaves are circled in red):

I don't believe this guy for a sec, but my leaves went weird this year and got fat. The lone fruit matched everything else.  Last year my leaves looked normal but when i put it in the ground, it grew for a while, and then stopped growing.  I pinched the tips to help form fruits. The fruit all aborted except for one which ripened.  Man it was good!

Dom, the lowest leaves on hard wood on your tree are true to variety - it is better not to judge new leaves on green growth, especially during rapid growth.  This is one thing I agree with Dan_la/Dan Abadie on completely - speed of growth seems to impact the shape of leaves to a degree.  My green growth on RdB (top growth) can vary to look a log like VdB/Negronne, but almost all the grey-wood growth is true to variety.

None of the leaves on the variety the eBay seller has posted are true to variety - which can mean it's not varietally correct.

However, his fruit is absolutely NOT a match to RdB.  If the fruit doesn't match (if it's that far off), it's absolutely not varietally correct. 

His fruit in the auction looks more like Paradiso, Sal's Corleone, Brunswick, etc.  I'd say Paradiso because the leaves are long and fingery like Brunswick on the lower growth, but it also has some fatter leaf shapes, and the red stripes down the side remind me of what I've seen of Paradiso.

I like how the eBay seller has posted "Ronde de Bordeaux family" as if there is such a thing?  I'm not aware of a "family" or even "variants" of Ronde de Bordeaux - you either have Ronde de Bordeaux it or you don't. 

While wrong, not as many would care if he was trying to sell a Brown Turkey for a Brunswick. But he's trying to sell a top-dollar fig to buyers who may not be as adept with fig identification.

In general, flowering/fruiting traits are more reliable in terms of plant identification. Vegetative characteristics can be variable because of local environment. In other words, lack of fruit similarity trumps variable leaf morphology.

gaimpalulo has been voted off the planet.

WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

@ h.banana
>>> For those of you wondering about breaking laws on internet forums. http://www.seqlegal.com/blog/troll-hunting-forum-abuse-and-law

Very glad that we do not have any of those ugly, ugly 'trolls' on this good F4F/FF...

I noticed recently while looking in the varieties database that there are no photos or additional info for RdB.  Could someone take the good indentification info and pictures of leaves posted by Satelitehead and upload them into the database?  I would do it, but am not techically knowledgeable enough.  This is great info.

Thanks,

So George,

What you are saying is what Dan Abadie recently wrote about me and Cecil and Brent in his blog and those harassing emails I got fall under these categories?

WOW,
you guys should be proud. Dan obviously spent a lot of time and effort writing that profanity-filled "blog". 
Some people thrive on arguments, meanness, controversy and "stirring the pot" as they say in Ireland. It's really not worth the effort responding because there is rarely any rational satisfactory conclusion.